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post May 24 2015, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(splatzkill @ May 24 2015, 10:27 AM)
Btw, my kitten has developed a new habit of stealing socks and table mats to play ... Grrrr
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My cats like to steal tissues & torch light. It's really funny when watching they dragging the torch light or run away with a tissue. Haha. laugh.gif

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post May 26 2015, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(JLostein @ May 25 2015, 03:34 PM)
Hi all, I have been looking around in many places for many years, to find a cat similar to my beloved cat Harmony, who passed in... 2010 I believe. I adopted her from a rescuer.

She was pure white, with semi long fur and a fluffy tail, and she was odd-eyed (one blue eye, one yellow eye). And she had the sweetest, gentlest face ever. Of course I cannot hope to find her exact match, but very close would be lovely.

I never really got over her passing and would love to find a similar cat. If you know of any, please kindly drop me a PM. Thank you SO much!
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QUOTE(Kayne @ May 25 2015, 03:59 PM)
Jlo...

My cat has almost the same description of your cat....

unfortunately she just passed away this morning due to liver failure....*sob

I just buried her a few hours ago=(
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Sorry for your loss. sad.gif
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post May 27 2015, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Petre @ May 27 2015, 01:37 PM)
my cat swallows rubber bands, and previously managed to chew off a fabric string from the bolster case, also caught ribbon in his poop, and two large strings  too...

is this behavior = eating grass?

so far no problem but i have taken precaution by putting away these kind of things and be aware of what he catches
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I don't think so. It kinda odd that your cat swallow the rubber bands. I also always throw away any objects including rubber bands, plastic bags, etc that I think that can attract the cats. Maybe your cat need new toys. smile.gif

How is your cat by the way? Is he still trying to mount his toy?
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post May 27 2015, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(Petre @ May 27 2015, 04:01 PM)
boredom has been bothering me for quite some time now. i scare my cat is bored since nobody is at home with him during working hours. been thinking of getting a companion for him (a kitten maybe)

yes i suspect he still tries to do the teddy bear coz the bear is often "taken" to different spots in the house and showed signs of something heavy been put on it (ie penyek)...
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Yeah, probably he is boring. A companion sound like good idea.

Try put away the teddy bear & replace with something else. hmm.gif

QUOTE(Candlenie @ May 27 2015, 04:51 PM)
Guys, is there any reason why my cat meow so frequent? He can meow for like 10 min non stop, stop a while, then continue. It's a bit noisy especially he likes to meow in the morning (5-6am) /late night after I off the lights. It's a siamese mixed btw.
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QUOTE(Petre @ May 27 2015, 05:00 PM)
same case with mine lol
i threw pillow at him...

i think your cat lonely after finish everything it wants to do at night and now demand you play or feed it
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I don't have Siamese but I read they're very vocal.

QUOTE(Candlenie @ May 27 2015, 05:25 PM)
lol sometime I open door and let him come in to my room but it doesnt help. Continue to meow in my room  vmad.gif 

Is there any recommended toys for cat? As far as I know my cat is not interested in anything
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My cats really love playing with small balls like the ones for the kids. Maybe you can try this.
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post Jun 7 2015, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(Seager @ Jun 7 2015, 01:11 PM)
Hey guys,

My cat (DMH or perhaps DLH) just over a year old still sheds her fur. Started 3-4 months back and I assumed it was due to change of food brand. But I switched back to Orijen, and her fur still sheds - and it's quite a lot.

She's healthy, eats well and plays actively.
The amount of fur shed is becoming quite a problem lol

How do I go about this? Any vitamins? Should I bring her to the vet? Her next vaccination is due end of July.
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Just want to clarify. In the span of only one day, your cat shed a lot of fur? If it's clumping of fur, then it's quite a lot though.
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post Jun 7 2015, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Seager @ Jun 7 2015, 03:28 PM)
Yes even in one day she sheds a lot of fur.
She sleeps on my bed too so every morning I have to wipe it clean and believe me, there's quite a lot of it.
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Ok, that's pretty bad. Your cat not in stress & I'm pretty sure you checked tick/flea, so can rule these out. I think it's food though. I know that you already change back to the regular food but it probably take a while before the problem stop. My cats also sometime have fur shedding problem too but usually there's always underlying causes like irritating from mosquito bite or tick/flea bite. In my case certain places, especially near the tail and anus, will go bald. In your case, I think the underlying cause is diet. I believe you probably already give it some time to settle down but it's not happening. All I can suggest, try change to more common food brand like Blackwood or Royal Canin. If the problem settle down, I think then you can go back to Orijen & the problem hopefully won't come back.
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post Jun 8 2015, 04:57 AM

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It has been months now that the weather hotter than usual but I do not noticed any difference on shedding on my cats though, even with DMH cats.



EDIT: Writing in forum can cause confusion sometime. When I read my post again today, it seems like I am disagreeing that cat can shedding more in certain seasons. Actually no though. Basically it just my observation on my cats. However, actually I do noticed that fur on my DMH cats are slightly less "thicker" than before though, if you know what I mean, especially around the head, neck & tail. My DMH cats a bit sensitive with the weather than other cats though.

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post Jun 9 2015, 12:14 PM

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"Thick" probably not accurate description. I think better word is the fur around the neck & tail become shorter than it used to be. When the fur around there longer, it'll look thicker but when shorter, it'll look less thick. smile.gif

BTW, do you guys have first aid kit for cat? Something simple like for treating fever & wound? I'm asking because the krim (dark yellow/orange colour) for wound that I got when spaying my cats before is pretty good in healing wound though. I've got some left that I used to treat a wound on my cat which happened because irritation from mosquito bite. I always use minyak gamat for treating wound but the krim working much faster though.
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post Jun 12 2015, 03:50 PM

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I have an appointment for neutering a male cat this Monday. If you guys have any tips to share for pre & post-operative for me please share because this will be my first time neutering male cat. Thanks.

I'm aiming to neuter two males cat before Hari Raya.
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post Jun 12 2015, 10:59 PM

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I'm planning to do that. Thanks.

QUOTE(spunkberry @ Jun 12 2015, 10:35 PM)
complete healing will take about 10-14 days. Don't let them jump or run around too much. Get an E collar to prevent them licking the wound. A cage would keep them immobile. I personally didn't use a cage.
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Basically similar post-operative with female cats? I was hoping to transfer him to 3-storey cage one or two days after surgery. Do you think it's good idea? With my girls around a month ago, I kept them in small cages which basically limited their movement. The thing with my cats is that they don't sits quietly, always something to do & living in rural area, basically lots of insects they like to hunt & play. Cage kind of necessary in my situation to limit their movement & to help the wound healing properly. Thinking that with male cat, the incision is extremely small, I wonder whether transferring him to bigger cage one or two day after surgery is a good idea or not.
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post Jun 15 2015, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Jun 12 2015, 10:35 PM)
complete healing will take about 10-14 days. Don't let them jump or run around too much. Get an E collar to prevent them licking the wound. A cage would keep them immobile. I personally didn't use a cage.
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My male cat neutered today but they don't have e-collar. We will need to monitor him regularly. It will be a long 14 days.

QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jun 14 2015, 05:44 PM)
For males its not an issue actually. They can move around after the operation as usual. Just don't bathe them for 10 days.

Btw I'm the co-owner of Purradise Cat Cafe smile.gif
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That's good to know. He already awake now & responding when I call him but still not fully awake. I'm planning to put him in the 3-storey cage tomorrow, when he fully awake. I don't want to separate him from his family. The other cats will be outside of the cage of course, only him in the cage.

My vet use simple stitches though like one stitch to close the outer incision. He told me the incision should be healed in 3 days. So, removing the stitch on male cats will be like removing stitches on female cats right? Either go to vet or do it ourselves right?

QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jun 15 2015, 02:05 PM)
Yeap, do drop by biggrin.gif
Don't switch to Royal Canin. Just look at the ingredients list and you'll know that its all crap. Vets will recommend it because they're sponsored by the main company. That main company also sends these vets for training in nutrition and such which is biased towards their own product. Its akin to McDonalds sponsoring doctors to tell you that their food is good for your health.

Orijien will do fine in maintaining a good coat. Would be better if you can get them off kibble and on to wet/raw food.
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I feed my cats with Royal Canin one time. They actually good though but the one I get is Persian 30. The ingredient of Persian 30 is good last time I checked. The ones for regular cat is the ones that have "regular" ingredients. Unfortunately, it's too pricey for my 20 cats or so.
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post Jun 15 2015, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jun 15 2015, 03:02 PM)
As far as I know, the male procedure is not as major as female spaying, the stitches are also a lot less likely to break apart through normal activity. All vets so far have said the males can go around as usual, only females need to be restricted. That said, doesn't hurt to be safe.
I read a lot about post-operative male cats but they don't go into details like post-operative female cats. But they did mentioned about the male cats only require very small incision which I think I don't need to put them in small cage like I did with my girls. I agree. doesn't hurt to be safe especially there's only gov vet clinic here & they only operating during office hour & no after hour on-call vet around. I think there should be no problem transferring him to bigger cage tomorrow. At least he will have more freedom to move around than the small cage.

QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jun 15 2015, 03:02 PM)
Its not really that good. Here's the ingredient list from the website:
"dehydrated poultry meat, rice, animal fats, maize flour, maize gluten, vegetable fibres, vegetable protein isolate*, hydrolysed animal proteins, minerals, chicory pulp, fish oil, psyllium husks and seeds, soya oil, fructo-oligo-saccharides, hydrolysed yeast (source of manno-oligo-saccharides), borage oil, marigold extract (source of lutein). ADDITIVES (per kg): Nutritional additives: Vitamin A: 25100 IU, Vitamin D3: 800 IU, E1 (Iron): 41 mg, E2 (Iodine): 2.9 mg, E4 (Copper): 9 mg, E5 (Manganese): 54 mg, E6 (Zinc): 204 mg, E8 (Selenium): 0.1 mg, L-lysine: 15.9 g - Preservatives"
First item is protein, which is good. However 2nd item is rice which is bad. They also broke down maize flour and maize gluten which could easily be listed as "corn" (also bad) on other ingredients list. We don't know the actual composition, so for all you know, combined it may be more than the meat.

Compare that to orijien's ingredients:

"Boneless chicken,* chicken meal, chicken liver,* whole herring,* boneless turkey,* turkey meal, turkey liver,* whole eggs,* boneless walleye,* whole salmon,* chicken heart,* chicken cartilage,* herring meal, salmon meal, chicken liver oil, chicken fat, red lentils, green peas, green lentils, sun-cured alfalfa, kelp, pumpkin,* butternut squash,* spinach greens,* carrots,* apples,* pears,* cranberries,* mixed tocopherols (preservative), chicory root, dandelion root, chamomile, peppermint leaf, ginger root, caraway seeds, turmeric, rose hips, freeze-dried chicken liver, freeze-dried turkey liver, freeze-dried chicken, freeze-dried turkey, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product + vitamins and minerals"

Lots of meat which is what they need. Cats are obligate carnivores, they have very little capacity to properly process vegetables and grain. Which is why you're seeling a lot of pet food companies removing grains from their ingredients as consumers become smarter about their cat's required nutrition.

That said, as long as your cat likes the food and is healthy, there's no point in trying to change their diet.
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Those are not ingredient of the RC Persian 30 that I used. No maize either. The ingredient you quoted is the "regular" RC I was referring to.

I have to disagree with rice is bad. It's not at all. Rice mixed with boiled fish (without bones) is what a lot of people feeds their cats, at least in the rural area. My late grandmother feeds her cats with this & her cats don't experienced any health issue. My cats also don't have health issue. The only health issue my cats have are eye infection & flu. There's a lot of cats in my area when I was a child & I don't recall any of the cats have health issue. Lots of them grow old. Nowadays with the too fast cars & people tend to use pesticide when they too lazy to mows their backyard, many cats over here die at young age. No exception for "musang" either.

I always use, by your definition "bad" food, for my cats though & all I see is healthy cats. I like to help stray cats whenever possible & whenever I can, which the main reason I have many cats.

Just sharing my experiences & my 2 cents. biggrin.gif

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post Jun 15 2015, 11:04 PM

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Oyen, my cat, fully awake since this evening. Recovery from general anesthesia much quicker than my girls though. Also he doesn't seems to lost his appetite unlike my girls which does loose appetite during the first 48 hours.

I have one concern though. When I read about preparing female cats before spaying, all articles I read mentioned do not withdraw water before surgery but when I researching for preparing male cats before neutering, some of the articles mentioned withdraw the water too. So basically this time I withdraw the water sometime around 9 to 10 p.m. (Food was withdrawn earlier than that, around 7.30 p.m.) Is there any reason why there's difference for pre-operative between female & male cats?

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post Jun 16 2015, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jun 16 2015, 01:56 AM)
For example an indoor cat lives an average life span of 12-15 years, some even get up to 20. While many outdoor cats pass on around the age of 8-9. Many even less. So many cats don't even live long enough for dietary problems to come into effect. High carb food has been found to be the biggest factor in feline diabetes.

Cats will hide pain and sickness to the best they can. It can be hard to detect problems in cats. Not saying that you're wrong or that your cats are unhealthy, but just be aware that they are rather resilient creatures that don't like to show weakness. For example, a symptom of feline diabetes is increased thirst/urination. Unless you're monitoring this properly, you wouldn't know if the symptom even exists.
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All of the cats back then are outdoors though. I remember at least one female cat (our cat) live around 10 years. I don't remember how long other cats live though.

So far I have not notice any changes in water intake or urination with my cats. Not much variations in the amount of clumping litter I removed everyday. My cats live indoor but the oldest did live indoor & outdoor for a while before finally indoor again.

QUOTE(spunkberry @ Jun 16 2015, 05:00 AM)
It's all over the place because the pet food manufacturers are all over the place. Some people even resort to raw feeding because they want to be able to control what goes into their pets' diet. I'm in the camp of "whatever is working for your pet, with silky fur and good bowel movements, just keep doing what you're doing".
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I'm pretty much in the same camp. What really work for my cats is rice mixed with boiled fish. The results are good bowel movements & no vomiting. Since I'm a "modern" cat owner, I always prefer more balanced nutrient pet food of course. Basically at the beginning I feed my cats kibbles in the morning & rice mixed with boiled fish in the evening. However when I started to stay with kibbles for both meals, my cats started having diarrhoea & vomiting. I changed the pet food a couple of times, because I'm pretty committed to balanced nutrient pet food, until I found one that worked for all of my cats. And it does contain rice in the ingredient.

As for wet/canned food, I can't find one that worked for all of my cats though. A couple of my cats will have diarrhoea when I feed wet food though. I have no idea why is that.

I never have fur problem with my cats. Of course if I didn't sweep or vacuum the floor for a week, there will be some clumping furs under the furniture and on the carpets.

In my opinion, pet food contain corn & rice & even by-product not necessarily bad. All "good" food is expensive to many people, especially that adopted many cats though.

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post Jun 16 2015, 11:44 AM

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Oyen in bigger cage in the front hall. this cage purpose was to cage our cats when we have visitors. Not all of course, the rest will be locked in the bedroom. I think some of you have seen this cage but with different cats in it.

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post Jun 16 2015, 02:18 PM

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Yeah, I'm too bet he can't wait to get out. tongue.gif Fortunately he is very calm cat, didn't make any noise when I put him in the cage. However I can't say the same thing when we're feeding him medicine earlier. biggrin.gif First day always the hardest.

BTW, do you think it's good idea to break the tablets to small pieces & mixed with the wet food? If I can do this, I can use this trick for tomorrow. This cat really a fighter when come to medicine.

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post Jun 18 2015, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(Seager @ Jun 17 2015, 09:13 PM)
I live in a condo, and I have a cat smile.gif
But then again, don't keep a cat for the sake of keeping a cat. Mine's basically an equal family member laugh.gif

Make sure you have what it takes to carry out your responsibility as an owner before proceeding though!
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^^ Definitely this. Please do research first & talk with people that already have cat. It's BIG responsibility. Every cat we adopted will become our family member & we don't throw away our own family member.
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post Jun 19 2015, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(anti-informatic @ Jun 19 2015, 11:02 AM)
Hi guys,

I'm going to send my cat to oversea and need to perform clinical test in Government Approved Veterinary.

Do anyone know any vet that is Government Approved and qualify to send pet to oversea after that?
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Ermmm...government veterinary clinic?
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post Jun 19 2015, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(anti-informatic @ Jun 19 2015, 03:46 PM)
But is government vet confirm to be acceptable vet for pet export?
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You need to ask them of course. Go to your district veterinary office. They have cats/dogs clinic there, so any checkup required can be done there. I don't know the procedure for pet export but I would think they're the one that have the authority to produce certificate to allow you for pet export.
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post Jun 20 2015, 04:47 AM

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QUOTE(ooorait @ Jun 20 2015, 04:44 AM)
Hi, does anyone know where is the cheapest place to spay/neuter cat? My two cats suddenly on heat and meowing non stop. Its problematic for me as i live in apartment. Last time there is one at setapak, but now they move. My area is melawati. Ty
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Cheapest is at government vet clinic. Over here at Parit Buntar (Kerian), female is RM80 & male is RM40. I don't know how much they charge there but should be cheap.

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