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post Apr 2 2015, 04:11 PM

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Second misinformation going arnd the net.
Titan X ram requirment. Min 24gb Max 48gb.

Its correct. Alot of reviews out there are running
With pagefile enabled due to ssd nand writes. And they not using manual optimized systems on their ram subtimings with the imc. They dont do extended gameplay to see the windows error of insufficient ram occur.

16gb with pagefile disable with my insane self skewed 2400 c9 rams was not enough for titan blacks in few games.

Also this is game engine dependent. SOM doesnt suffer this as the vram swapping on it is low. That because SOM texture streaming is gradual.

Btw disabling pagefile to get a boost on min fps . No diff on slow rams with high latency etc. benefits are seem at 2133 c9 to 2400 c10. On z97 etc.. Above 2400 is mute as you comprimise in imc speeds with higher trdrd values. Running xmp in general is very loose on trdrd. Max i could do with reasonable ioa/iod voltage was 2600c10 trdrd 4. Killed a few proc while doing it at 4x4 gb 1t. Could have bought another titan x with that.

Anyway this is something ppl need to see it for themselves.

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post Apr 2 2015, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Apr 2 2015, 04:16 PM)
I have nothing to argue on what you wrote. But this is what i have to say,

Nvidia knows that edp alone cannot do what g-sync did outside VRR window. Thus, i was skeptic about people claiming freesync is the same thing with g-sync. It is true within the VRR window, but the story change outside VRR window. This is where g-sync shine.

PCPER guys discover this fact (weird nvidia did not actually announce this even though Tom Perterson did hint about it in recent interview), however, later i found out that the VESA spec of adaptive sync have similar approach to g-sync outside vrr window.

Let me just quote VESA white paper: "If the game’s framerate drops below the refresh rate of the display (eg. during a short period of intensive action), then the new frame will not be ready in time for the display’s blanking interval, and the previous frame is repeated on the display."

From my understand, this is what G-Sync did from what we've been gathered from PCPER testing. This is Adaptive-Sync spec. It is weird enough that Freesync didn't do this in the test.

Thus i came into conclusion (my thoughts), that Freesync is not a full adaptation of adaptive-sync.  It just part of adaptive-sync standard.  I think you may caught those mobile g-sync thing that, there is no g-sync module on the panel itself. I guess this mobile g-sync works the same just like current free-sync.  They make use of the adaptive-sync spec, but once it goes outside vrr, it will stuttered/tearing.

Also, there is discussion on Tek Syndicate also agreed that Freesync is not a full implementation of Adaptive-sync.

The white paper link. http://www.vesa.org/wp-content/uploads/201...aper-140620.pdf
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Again its not a vesa issue. Its the implementation of driver support with the gpu. I did read that spec and its just a showcase slide of a tech thats dependent on theorectical driver implementation on gpu side. There is no such drivers atm.

Scaler companies gpu manufactorers.. Each are doing a job one half the coin with only one side really putting money into it. Thats y i am telling ya. Adaptive sync is complete. The implementation in gaming is a freesync issue. Thats what they meant. How it handles below the vrr window is a freesync issue. There will be no hardware buffer from the scaler side.
Vsync its a gpu driver feature. They are painting a pretty picture of a driver feature that hasnt been invented. Change the tag line from free sync is incomplete. No tech on driver level has been invented to solve that double framing below vrr.

Nvidia is known to off load things to specific hardware feature rather than make it a driver feature. Same thing they did with frame pacing which btw amd didnt even knew was a issue when ppl started testing for it.

Mobile adaptive sync. Check what nvidia said about it. If a set of driver instructions was ideal for gaming .. We would have seen it by now as 99% gaming notebooks out there is powered by nvidia. Ppl are just guessing on the alpha driver which is just a mirror implementation if freesync. I doubt nvidia will crack that buffer issue via driver n release it only for amd to copy. I think nvidia will release a hardware level inbuilt into their gpu. This is my assumption seeing how they do bizz n protect their investment.

Btw theres no better forum than ocn atm. Everbody is there.

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Apr 2 2015, 04:53 PM)
I never said it is a VESA issue. It is a Freesync issue.

Agreed. The fanboyism in AMD camp is worst.  They being so defensive on the product.  I will still say what's bad about nvidia.
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Yeah. That vesa thing was to make you realize from the first post that there wont be any hardware buffer on adaptive sync monitors. Thats what actually i have been trying to tell unless amd starts putting $$$ into it.

Nvidia has it issues. But my point of view they try to make gaming better. Amd is all about performance. Gaming experience to them is on the developers shoulder. Nvidia realizes the flaw in this strategy. Create the technology for game developers is a better way. Imagine if not for this we will have 300fps console like experience. Put that extra fos into new tech.

I am for physics, i am for gameworks, n i realize its not complete n its buggy. But it improves the fidelity n makes pc gaming worth it. During the 480,580 time i enjoyed my xbox 360 more than pc.

I cant wait to try out mfaa. Bloody hell titan x waterblock, just got my red backplates etc but no gc. I let go of two units of asus in favor for zotac because of distrust in asus rma atm.

Btw sorry for reedit cause iam typing on the iphone while talking on the phone with EK slovenia shipping department.

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Apr 2 2015, 05:09 PM)
sweat.gif  really? amd fanboyism is worst...  oh okay but.. when u posting Freesync thing on amd thread everyone seem to ignore u.. is just me and acid who reply(i talk about price difference menwhile Acid kinda agree with ur point and review on Youtube)... right or which post i miss to read other..WORST amd fanboyism been defensive about.. ? hmm  hmm.gif  eh i dun really see point freesync anyway playing my humble game on my humble 4k no issues..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Dont always think a camp means this forum. Venture out more dude. Ocn. Thats where you see the amd loonies.
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Apr 2 2015, 05:15 PM)
really ? oh as far i see both side have Loonie tongue.gif
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Nah. You wont see many nvidia nut going into amd thread but you see them all flocking into nvidia thread.

Same here.
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QUOTE(pspslim007 @ Apr 2 2015, 07:01 PM)
hi guys, anyone has the best OC settings for 780ti ? mind sharing with me ? Thanks !
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Google skyn3t 780ti.

Get ure mod bios for ure card.


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QUOTE(Desprado @ Apr 3 2015, 09:18 AM)
I have 12GB  system memory and i want to buy Titan X but some people are saying to fully utilize GTX Titan X memory u will need 24GB ram other wise it will utilize  only 4GB.So is that true.
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No no no. Alot of misinformation from idiots who dont game on the net.

Its vram swapping. Game n reso dependent.
It happens when pagefile is disabled especially. Check ocn. I already had a lengthy debate on this

But basically

System ram use + 2 x vram use = physical ram
If the later is more than pysical you need pagefile or more ram

Pagefile on ssd is bad for daily nand write limit
Pagefile performance affects min fps which makes high dram speeds gain in gaming null.

Min fps example evolve pagr filr on hdd 79, on ssd 86, ram 90-91( no pagefile) smoother.

Also disabling pagefile you will eliminate microstutter.

You need to experience this ureself n dont listen to the idiots on the net who dont game. Affects are seen on extended gameplay instead of benching games as vram swapping is game engine dependent n build up over time.

Think i am going to take a hiatus as next topic will be running high dram with populated dimm slots. This is another niche crowd which idiots on the net including most reviewers on xmp will never understand thd importance of rtl.

Btw 16gb was not enough for titan black, so get 32gb but understand it has a limit which currently no game exceedds which is y recommended 48gb.

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post Apr 6 2015, 07:34 PM

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Dude. All nvidia gc from all manufactorer distro has abt 10% on rsp usd price.

But what baskets here do. 20 % to distro n 10% to reseller.
Btw to those distro that are qualified nvidia retailer.. They get rebates etc.

Thats how we pay 20% more. Dont mind but these baskets dont even care about rma. Its time ppl here boycott asus etc.

Only two companies are still good atleast on rma msi n zotac.

Zotac distro atleast fair on rsp. 10% increased for reseller. N they dont charge rma, rma shipping fees etc n fast turn around

This is what i noticed. After this only will go for evga mobo.

One thing though the current titan x on sli vs single situation at 4k .. Same prob had with two titan black sli before the introduction of swift. 4k panels with gsync has a narrow
refresh rate. 90% of the time will be running vsync.. Expect a lot of tearing. 4k 120hz requires dp1.3.

I taking a stand with asus n any brand or shop that think ezzy dough. Dude alot of shops earn 20-40k a month with 3 underpaid dumb workers. So dont think they are not earning.


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Evga you had alot of ppl fark it up. Smalltime idiots who made a quick buck. Cannot rma properly etc.

Zotac previous distro was such edevices n glenn watever.


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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Apr 6 2015, 09:24 PM)
going pascal instead...6 more months left laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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Err gtx 950ti?? That should be pascal based on their trend.

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empire23

Caselab sma8.

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some epeen on stock voltage

cstkl1 - 4770k@4.5ghz - Titan X SLI@1354/7000mhz - 4259


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post Apr 9 2015, 04:52 AM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Apr 9 2015, 04:43 AM)
The case seems very nice but with the shipping cost at 300+ dorrars, very the mahal lol.
Trying to get Titans into Australia so I can fiddle with them when I arrive home next week Tuesday.

But even if they do arrive, not sure if I got time to play around with them, got my medicals to do and stuff to settle before I fly off again  sad.gif
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bro get it from amazon. cheaper.

i just couldnt wait.

prices here about the same as australia.

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post Apr 9 2015, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Apr 9 2015, 08:52 AM)
No stock sad.gif

Wanted to order from Nvidia straight, but they dun ship here. Kesedihan >9000.

Don't think got time oso, I get 1 week off, of which 3 days I'll be using to do consulting work in Sydney. So maybe after this project wraps up  cry.gif
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Bro. A guy in ocn just got a giga unit at some random shop in sydney.

Amazon way cheaper. 4k. Us. Hmm to my friend place etc with shipping etc. n this limited warantty to the purchaser etc...


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http://www.evga.com/articles/00919/EVGA-Pro-SLI-Bridges-V2/

upgrade.

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Apr 10 2015, 03:55 PM)
oh  wait... u pay RM4K ++ for GPU, play sorry  bench on 1080p... hmm  hmm.gif

fix: RM8K++ SLI i just notice sli... x
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Yup. Its great.
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Apr 10 2015, 06:20 PM)
do it on 4K benchmark wanna see it  thumbup.gif   / by way did you report my post ?  well i hope is not you.. cause is sad... if you did that.. eh  sad.gif
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stating to ban me if i say something stupid. so dont worry dude. Peace

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Apr 10 2015, 09:27 PM)
200fps damn thats high bro, 150fps also buttery smooth already
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Thats tearing smooth.

200 will be uber tear smooth.

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cstkl1 --- 4790k / 4.7ghz ---- Titan X 1506 Mhz / 4000 Mhz@1.23 ---- 111.1 ---- 2800 1080p


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cstkl1 --- 4790k / 4.7ghz ---- Titan X 1455 Mhz / 4000 Mhz SLi@1.18,1.23v ---- 191.8 ---- 4832 1080p


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cstkl1 --- 4790k / 4.7ghz ---- Titan X 1506 Mhz / 4000 Mhz@1.23 ---- 9322
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cstkl1 --- 4790k / 4.7ghz ---- Titan X 1455 Mhz / 4000 Mhz SLi@1.18,1.23v ---- 15359
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after bumping the cpu up.. turns out the first card was stable at 1506 and not 1520.

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Apr 11 2015, 02:06 PM)
Naw, I usually just keep the hardware and give it away to friends and family if they need it.
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finally 60fps min in watchdog with two titan x sli @ 1462mhz 110pl default bios with everything cranked up in config file with txaa4x with textures also 1440. supersampling disabled.

i hate dunia, anvil engines. but they do look great. fc4 fairs a bit better than this. so now acu issue
all their engines with gameworks.. need to use txaa. msaa things will get flaky.




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