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post Mar 16 2015, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Mar 16 2015, 09:13 AM)
Hi Guys,

I am recording my account but unsure how do I record this transaction:

- Convert RM80,000 in my Ringgit into my USD account
- Conversion Rate RM3.76/USD
- I received USD21276.60 in my USD account.
- There is no currency exchange gain or lost.

How to I record this transaction? what I can think of is:
Riggit Account credit: 80000
USD Account debit: 21276.60

But the issue is it does not seem balance. Can you please help?
Thank you!
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Wah 3.76 bad deal, should go mid valley money changer

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post Mar 16 2015, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(Croner @ Mar 16 2015, 05:41 PM)
Wah 3.76 bad deal, should go mid valley money changer
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yes, that looks high as bnm rates closing rates today: 3.7035, 3.7065.

likely it's bank deposit, not cash, inclusive of commission, etc...

still, if doing biz n need usd to pay soon, may not be bad.

good read for those interested:

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How Asia should defend against the rising dollar
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/h...t-rising-dollar

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post Mar 16 2015, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Mar 16 2015, 09:13 AM)
Hi Guys,

I am recording my account but unsure how do I record this transaction:

- Convert RM80,000 in my Ringgit into my USD account
- Conversion Rate RM3.76/USD
- I received USD21276.60 in my USD account.
- There is no currency exchange gain or lost.

How to I record this transaction? what I can think of is:
Riggit Account credit: 80000
USD Account debit: 21276.60

But the issue is it does not seem balance. Can you please help?
Thank you!
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You are asking accounting entry ?

Your account is in RM, so for today, you have a forex account (US$) worth RM80k. No gain no loss.

When month end, you translate your US$21k to RM. If more than RM80k, then you have a unrealised forex gain. If less than RM80k, you have a unrealised forex loss. At the time you use the US$, then you have a realised gain or loss
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post Mar 20 2015, 06:57 AM

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one analyst's view..


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Friday, 20 March 2015 06:04
Ringgit could fall to 3.95 against U.S. dollar by Sept, economist

PETALING JAYA - Macquarie Research expects the ringgit to depreciate further to 3.95 against the dollar by September, before ending the year at RM3.82, boosting exports and trade surplus, said its Asean economist P.K. Basu.

"Malaysia is indeed a net exporter of oil (the only one in East Asia apart from Brunei), but its net exports of oil are small (the value of crude-oil exports being partly offset by imports of refined product). Sluggishness in palm oil and rubber prices, as well as plunging crude oil prices, clearly hurt sentiment toward Malaysia and had a negative impact on the earnings of listed companies in the oil services and plantation sectors," he said in his research note.

Basu said the central bank appears to be comfortable with further ringgit depreciation although the nation's terms of trade have not deteriorated.

"Despite a perceived deterioration in Malaysia's terms of trade (with the decline in crude oil prices and sluggishness in palm oil and rubber prices), the trade surplus has remained large. Exports (in US$) have declined 5% year-on-year in the latest three months (November 2014 till January 2015), but imports have declined an even sharper 6.6% year-on-year, widening the trade balance to a monthly surplus of US$2.83 billion during the latest three months," said Basu.

He said periods of large depreciation of the ringgit have been relatively rare over the past 20 years but when it depreciated 8% to 10% year-on-year, there has typically been a rebound in exports and the trade surplus after about six months.

The biggest depreciation was in 1998, followed by dramatic rebound in exports and trade surplus in 1999 and 2000 while in 2009, ringgit depreciation similarly resulted in an export-led rebound from October 2009 and the 8% depreciation in the year to Januar 2014 bolstered trade surplus in the first half of 2014.

"The recent episode of ringgit depreciation should similarly boost exports by Q2 2015, and allow a widening of the trade surplus in April-September 2015," he said.

During Bank Negara Malaysia's (BNM) briefing on the annual report last week, the deputy governor emphasised the "terms of trade shock" that Malaysia has experienced in the past half year, which he said justified the depreciation of the ringgit, primarily as a means to temper the decline in farm incomes from the decline in export-commodity prices.

"While we recognise the social benefits of offsetting the latter, we note that Malaysia's terms of trade have not actually deteriorated significantly. Not only are Malaysia's exports and imports dominated by non-commodity manufactures (led by electronics), but even the oil terms of trade have not deteriorated significantly," said Basu.

Despite the ringgit being the worst performing currency in Asia this year and the issues surrounding 1MDB, Basu said there is still light beyond the "dark tunnel".

Real gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to decelerate this year to 4.5% growth as private consumption is reined in to 5.4% year-on-year growth, in response to the imposition of the Goods and Services Tax (GST) in April.

"Inflation is 1% year-on-year, and set to rise moderately to about 2.5% year-on-year with the imposition of the GST in Q2 2015. The latter (being a tax on consumption) will boost the savings rate, thus bolstering Malaysia's current account surplus. With inflation much lower than it previously projected, we expect BNM to cut the overnight policy rate (OPR) 25bp in Q2 2015," he said.

Basu expects BNM to cut the OPR at its May 2015 meeting or no later than the July meeting, and to keep it at that level through 2016. Consequently, an investment- and export-led rebound to 6.1% real GDP growth in 2016 can be expected
. - Sundaily

Full article: http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...3#ixzz3UsJTArSx
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post Mar 20 2015, 12:04 PM

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Ringgit could fall to 3.95 against U.S. dollar by Sept ohmy.gif shocking.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 20 2015, 12:16 PM)
Ringgit could fall to 3.95 against U.S. dollar by Sept ohmy.gif  shocking.gif
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Really? Then i rich already! rclxm9.gif

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post Mar 20 2015, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Mar 20 2015, 12:26 PM)
Really? Then i rich already! rclxm9.gif
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how? u invest or salary in USD blink.gif rclxub.gif
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post Mar 20 2015, 12:34 PM

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how? u invest or salary in USD  blink.gif  rclxub.gif
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My income in USD...

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Mar 20 2015, 12:34 PM)
My income in USD...
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good for u rclxms.gif notworthy.gif
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Nice to meet you guys. I've read thru all your responses on this thread. Since you guys are experienced, I'd like to seek for your wise/supportive advice.

I've planned for migration with my family and we want to stay permanently in Chiang Mai, Thailand due to low cost of living there. Hence I've advertised on my property for sell since December last year. My property which has 5 years of locking period term is going to end by the month of July this year. Hopefully we can migrate there before end of this year. But I've heard rumors in fact it has come to the fact that currently, many buyers are having difficulties of getting home loans from banks and investors are 'Pulling Handbrake' due to the upcoming GST on next month.

On top of that, now Ringgit Malaysia drop tremendously against USD and Thai Baht. Let say I manage to sell off my property, settle off my outstanding balance with the current home finance, and assume that the remaining balance which I'll be getting back is (RM) 100K, if I'd like to convert and transfer those money via local bank here to my Thai bank account there, that is going to be pain in the ass and a suicidal case for me! Check this out...

As off today rates, 1 Malaysian Ringgit equals 8.79 Thai Baht.

(RM) 100K = 879494.01 Thai Baht (similar to the value of RM87,000)

Almost (RM) 30K are gone just like that! That's excluded Misc. charges from both sending and receiving banks.

So what should I do? Is there any better way to reduce such lost legally?

Your advice is greatly appreciated.

This post has been edited by tommy_thaitanium: Mar 20 2015, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(Croner @ Mar 20 2015, 12:04 PM)
See  predicted right biggrin.gif
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yr prediction is not right yet, but is concurred by that analyst. other analysts may say different. we'll just have to see.
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/r...isk-oil-slump-0
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/u...orld-bank-chief

QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Mar 20 2015, 12:34 PM)
My income in USD...
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today 3.73. from jan 2015, u already got 2.75% increase. enjoy while it lasts.

QUOTE(tommy_thaitanium @ Mar 20 2015, 02:02 PM)
Nice to meet you guys. I've read thru all your responses on this thread. Since you guys are experienced, I'd like to seek for your wise/supportive advice.
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not qualified to advise... but just a comment...
selling off house and moving out for good is a major-major decision.
u should not let exchange rates get into the way.
if i am doing it, i will just do it with a major bank, and move on.
one thing, if u rush to sell yr house, this can be a killer - unless u get lucky, u will need to discount significantly.
if possible, take sufficient time to sell. talking from experience! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 20 2015, 06:02 PM)
yr prediction is not right yet, but is concurred by that analyst. other analysts may say different. we'll just have to see.
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/r...isk-oil-slump-0
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/u...orld-bank-chief
today 3.73. from jan 2015, u already got 2.75% increase. enjoy while it lasts.
not qualified to advise... but just a comment...
selling off house and moving out for good is a major-major decision.
u should not let exchange rates get into the way.
if i am doing it, i will just do it with a major bank, and move on.
one thing, if u rush to sell yr house, this can be a killer - unless u get lucky, u will need to discount significantly.
if possible, take sufficient time to sell. talking from experience! laugh.gif
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if im right you how?

lets bet 100k usd biggrin.gif

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post Mar 21 2015, 08:45 AM

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RM4 to the dollar seen

KUALA LUMPUR: The ringgit is expected to weaken to the 4.00-level versus the US dollar in the next six months as investors anticipate a hike in the benchmark US federal funds rate.

The hike may come earlier than anticipated after recent indicators show growth has visibly strengthened in the world’s largest economy.

Johns Hopkins University’s Eni Professor of international economics Michael Plummer said the greenback would continue to be exceptionally strong in the next few months on market anticipation of a rate hike by the US Federal Reserve.

He told StarBizWeek on the sidelines of the 19th Asean Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors Meetings that should the ringgit weaken towards the 4.00-level, there could be space for Bank Negara to intervene to stabilise the currency.

URL: http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...seen/?style=biz
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post Mar 21 2015, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 20 2015, 01:16 PM)
Ringgit could fall to 3.95 against U.S. dollar by Sept ohmy.gif  shocking.gif
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Huh... Source?

Okok.. Saw David post


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post Mar 21 2015, 10:17 AM

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Will BNM lock our ringgit against USD like last time ?
Ringgit will fall till 4.00 in May on this rate.
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QUOTE(veron208 @ Mar 21 2015, 10:17 AM)
Will BNM lock our ringgit against USD like last time ?
Ringgit will fall till 4.00 in May on this rate.
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unlikely BNM would do tat blink.gif

Governor Zeti said Malaysia is strong enuf for lower RM hmm.gif

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The Fed and the threat of a global currency war: 5 things you should know..... Published on Mar 20, 2015 - See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/business/...h.GMzNWDia.dpuf
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QUOTE(Croner @ Mar 20 2015, 08:07 PM)
lets bet 100k usd biggrin.gif
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no, i dare not. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(veron208 @ Mar 21 2015, 10:17 AM)
Will BNM lock our ringgit against USD like last time ?
Ringgit will fall till 4.00 in May on this rate.
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do not think a peg is simple or easy. it is costly n may backfire if not careful.
if it is that easy, russia, brazil, everyone will just peg n be happy.
google n u will find the pros n cons, success n horror stories of pegging in history.

QUOTE(T231H @ Mar 21 2015, 12:45 PM)
The Fed and the threat of a global currency war: 5 things you should know..... Published on Mar 20, 2015 - See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/business/...h.GMzNWDia.dpuf
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thanks, good read. always something to learn. wink.gif including this:
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Two main causes coming together: Economies that never sufficiently recovered from the last great financial crisis with consumer and business spending still in the doldrums; and, falling or low inflation, and the risk of deflation, thanks largely to the sharp fall in oil prices since last June.
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Should the Fed hike rates as expected, central banks in Asia face the risk that the outflow of capital - already happening because of the stronger US dollar - will become heavier as investors leave in search of higher returns. In that environment, they may calculate that risks outweigh advantages of lowering borrowing costs.
- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/business/...a.HvGlO6jK.dpuf


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thanks alot BN supporter and najib.
we all suffer losses thanks to u all~~
greatly appreciate the effort, make our money worth less please~~vote BN!! gogo rclxms.gif

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