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 ringgit Malaysia drop , how to I change my RM to USD

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post Mar 16 2015, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Mar 16 2015, 09:13 AM)
Hi Guys,

I am recording my account but unsure how do I record this transaction:

- Convert RM80,000 in my Ringgit into my USD account
- Conversion Rate RM3.76/USD
- I received USD21276.60 in my USD account.
- There is no currency exchange gain or lost.

How to I record this transaction? what I can think of is:
Riggit Account credit: 80000
USD Account debit: 21276.60

But the issue is it does not seem balance. Can you please help?
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You are asking accounting entry ?

Your account is in RM, so for today, you have a forex account (US$) worth RM80k. No gain no loss.

When month end, you translate your US$21k to RM. If more than RM80k, then you have a unrealised forex gain. If less than RM80k, you have a unrealised forex loss. At the time you use the US$, then you have a realised gain or loss
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post Jun 13 2015, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 12 2015, 08:54 PM)
hmm.gif anyone got the data for this?
If
"A", placed in RM 1000 in FD with Malaysian bank in year 1985 till 2015 (or 10 years at least)
"B", placed in RM 1000 but converted to SGD and placed in FD with S'pore bank in year 1985 till 2015 (or 10 years at least)
which one got more now?
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Singapore Malaysia (3 month FD rates)

1997 3.41% 7.35%
1998 5.17% 8.70%
1999 1.70% 6.45%
2000 1.68% 3.18%
2001 1.70% 3.25%
2002 1.00% 3.27%
2003 0.78% 3.13%
2004 0.40% 2.87%
2005 0.41% 2.80%
2006 0.56% 3.21%
2007 0.57% 3.61%
2008 0.48% 3.56%
2009 0.38% 3.30%
2010 0.22% 2.23%
2011 0.18% 2.94%
2012 0.13% 3.07%
2013 0.14% 3.11%
2014 0.15% 3.11%
2015 0.15% 3.78%

1997 forex RM:SGD 1.00:1.79

1. Put S$1000 in FD renew on maturity from 1997-2015 = S$1208.84

2. Put RM1790 in FD renew on maturity from 1997-2015 = RM3652.44

3. S$1208.84 x 2.78 (2015) = RM3360.57


RM wins. Malaysia Boleh. Bercukur ada Barisan Nasional
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post Jun 13 2015, 01:18 AM

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Based on the above data, is xuzen correct on Fisher Equilibrium / interest rate parity ?

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post Jun 13 2015, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 13 2015, 02:03 AM)
differential of 8.7%...

an indication more rm depr towards 3.0 ex rate coming?
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If a company has bad financial management, it's P&L will of course deteriorate further. Same as currency. It's a matter of time. But don't know when tongue.gif
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post Jun 13 2015, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 13 2015, 07:38 AM)
notworthy.gif thanks for the compiled data....appreciated it very much...it proved/showed some things.
btw, "Bercukur"...???  rclxub.gif
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It's the /k lingo for bersyukur, being sarcastic tongue.gif

Seriously, personally I don't think it is a conprehensive comparison. It may be true for fixed income investment based on interest rate, like a retiree who live on FD.

But investor may be investing in other vehicle like in stock market too. So, if we compare SGD+SGX vs RM+KLCI, the the winner is different, and in this case SGD will be a clear winner

But for all we know, there will be some politician who "memaslankan" the above calculation and sing praise for RM tomorrow tongue.gif
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post Jun 18 2015, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 18 2015, 05:28 PM)
Foreign currency account has interest? If yes its super low.

ANyway.. lets put it this way...

Currently is 3.7080.....

You plan to travel in 5 yrs time...

So you change USD now... u probably get hit atleast 200 points? So 3.7280.. THis is the rate u locked in.

in 5 years, the USD must go to 4.3378 before you break even if compared to putting your ringgit in the bank.
Understand now?
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That's why good understanding of numbers enable a person to make sound financial decision based on calculated risk
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post Jul 2 2015, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 2 2015, 07:32 PM)
I know about that. What I am looking for is account with a physical bank in another country.
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If you are so worried about malaysian banks, instead of finding an offshore bank to park your money, you should be planning to migrate now. Because if all banks in malaysia failed, malaysia economy will collapse. If you are still in malaysia, you will most probably be unemployed, suffering from 50% inflation, and face riots on a daily basis !

What makes you lose confidence in malaysia banks ?
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post Jul 2 2015, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 2 2015, 08:01 PM)
The fact that Greece debts is about usd320x (don't know how many x are there) and malaysia is already at usd160x (refer to debt clocks)

Second 1mdb. 1mdb is just the tip of the iceberg. Rm45b. How on earth are they going to pay back Rm45b? Even if they manage to settle 1mdb, something will come along again.

Third. Inflation. Petrol price goes up. Prices of goods went up and won't drop again. Each time petrol goes up, the cycle is repeated.

Fourth, not sure is true or not, malaysia borrowing money in USD to pay debts. One thing I know after reading all of Gen-X's post, borrowing money to pay debts is digging your own hole. Imagine borrowing personal loan, "quick cash" to pay your credit card debts on a bigger scale.

Fifth, we are not USA, USA is in shit load of debts but because the world's trade is based on USD, there will always be demand for it.  Also they are superpower of the world. Who dares fight them (apart from China and Russia)?

Good to have a backup some where.

Hope I made it clear.
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Then, your mission is finding a country who will receive you. Not finding a foreign bank tongue.gif

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 4 2015, 12:44 PM)
Fundermental is good, no doubt. But the people managing the economy is doh.gif

Just imagine the country's economy as a company's business. No matter how good the company's business and its prospect is, if the management tries to take advantage for personal gain, nobody will buy the shares in the company and the share price will plunge
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QUOTE(Zanmai0146 @ Jul 5 2015, 01:15 PM)
Very true but it's happening now in Malaysia
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I wonder if Tim Cook transfer a few billion to his personal account, what would happen to Apple's share price tongue.gif
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post Jul 5 2015, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(Zanmai0146 @ Jul 5 2015, 07:14 PM)
I believe he will not stupid until that level.. Everything will be clear soon, whose will transact so big amount into that account just to frame a person? laugh.gif
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Ya Tim Cook is not that stupid. But I am not sure about others tongue.gif
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post Jul 5 2015, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(Zanmai0146 @ Jul 5 2015, 09:28 PM)
I wonder MYR will goes up to 3.80 or not on monday
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If not Monday, then in weeks to come will sure touch that level. Unless the government really work on and solve their problem and restore confidence. Not only foreigner will ditch RM, but our own citizen will convert their RM to forex. You can see even students now are asking how to convert RM to US$.
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post Jul 6 2015, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Jul 5 2015, 11:55 PM)
Msia main GDP export are 1) semiconductors and electronic equipment, 2) palm oil, 3) petroleum and liquefied natural gas, 4) wood and wood products,  rubber, textiles, chemicals, solar panels. For high cost of petroleum digging and with low petrol price, why need to meet the equilibrium ? As long as export in # 1 and # 2
are still sustaining, country economy grow should be meeting 4% this year. TOP 3 WORLD credit rating agencies gave below grade M'sia on its credit :- 
Standard & Poor's:-
A+ (Domestic)
A- (Foreign)
A+ (T&C Assessment)
Outlook: Stable
Moody's:
A3
Outlook: Positive
Fitch:
A-
Outlook: Stable

Weak RM help on Export than Import and TOURISM Business here.

1)  https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/th...ok/geos/my.html
2)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Malaysia
3)  http://www.tradingeconomics.com/malaysia/exports

Expect USD will be higher and higher coming years, as USA Central Bank (FED) going to raise interest rate, as major hedge funds/investment companies
will sell emerging/developing country stocks and put their $$ work harder in US Stock/Equities/Bonds to generate higher yield (Return of Investment).

SPECIAL NOTE:- What you seen in WhatsApp, FB or other social networking (with PHOTO EDIT) doesn't picture the right information. Have a great day.
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Nobody dispute malaysia is a great country and has great future in its economy. The problem is not its economy. The problem is the people running it.

Just take the example of Apple. It has great products and business model. Just like malaysia. But if Tim Cook and his team doesn't give confidence to the investors (news like WSJ reporting Tim Cook transfer billions of Apple's money into his own personal account), then no investor will want to hold Apple's share. The share price will crash to the bottom. Even if later Tim Cook is proven didn't do it, the damage is already done

Ringgit is experiencing this at the moment. Its not about fundamental or intrinsic value anymore

Feel very sad and helpless. If I am just a shareholder of Apple, I can just sell the share, pat myself on the back and say "tough luck" and continue with my life. But malaysia is not just an investment, it's my country..... doh.gif
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QUOTE(anudora @ Jul 7 2015, 11:08 PM)
the theory should be applicable to all countries. Why got exception?
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He and several others in RWI are well known cyber trooper. His job is to defend his master, not sharing opinion objectively
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After BNM intervention for 3 days, looks like the USD has stabilised at ~3.80. That could be the figure BNM is interested to maintain.

Hope BNM has enough reserve to fight the negative perceptions on the RM with all the hoo-haa currently happening. Stability is good for business and personal spending like education and imported gadgets.

But still, the domestic drama will continue to dent the confidence in RM. The RM will only be valued fairly if those drama is settled.
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QUOTE(Blessedchild94 @ Jul 11 2015, 01:53 PM)
Will be going to the UK next year. So, am quite worried with the current situation. As of today 1 gbp= 5.88 myr. Do u guys think that the aforesaid currency exchange will be better by next year or worse?  sad.gif
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BNM has drawn a very clear line this week. They will defend RM at ~3.80 to USD.

When the market sees this intervention long enough, 3.80 will be set as a baseline. Confidence will be restored, and less people will rush to convert / speculate the RM

However, I think this is only short term. If the people managing the economy continue to stage monkey shows like what is going on now, then long term the fundamental of the economy will be affected and the real value of RM will plunge.

If I were you, no hurry for the next few months. Take a look see position first. Keep in FD and earn some interest which may offset the depreciation. Eg. If you keep RM5.88 @ 4% in FD for 1 year, At the end of 1 year, it will grow to RM6.1152. In other words, even if GBP appreciate to 6.1152 1 year later, you will still breakeven
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 20 2015, 08:30 AM)
Uncertainties cloud ringgit’s true value
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...alue/?style=biz

When v can expect those uncertainties disappear?
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I thought with BNM intervention, certainty is restored at 3.80 ? Now despite oil price come down, we still pegged at 3.80. And because of that, RM appreciates against other currencies. Without BNM's invisible hands, it could have gone to 3.90 already

Honestly I feel calmer and that is a good thing. For how long I don't know lah...
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 23 2015, 10:09 PM)

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BNM has used up 5b in less than a month just to maintain 3.80. Zeti has only another 20 times of 5b to fight for RM

Zeti must be very nervous. So do I. Perhaps shouldn't be too complacent sweat.gif

If USA increase interest rate, will Zeti follow ? She hasn't not much choice has she ?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 24 2015, 08:02 AM)
Unless the situation is so desperate, it is unlikely for BNM to follow US increase in interest rate, as by doing so, it will compound the pressure for business cost across with newly GST + rise in interest rate that may hamper the economy growth significantly.

BNM won't intervene forever, the recent intervention is needed because the drop is simply to fast, whereby they need to "calm" the market by stablise it.
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If Zeti won't follow interest rate rise, she needs to spend more of the reserve to intervene. Although she has 100b left, but when it touches 80b balance, she will be forced to re-think whether the intervention is effective. She has only a shallow pocket maybe she will be forced to increase interest rate at that time, after another 20b turn into smoke

RM should not be that weak fundamentaly. It was the confidence in the currency that has weaken the currency. Thanks to the people managing the economy thumbup.gif nod.gif notworthy.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

Getting interesting in September.
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post Jul 24 2015, 11:19 AM

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US$ to 3.81++ even if BNM intervene. Very strong even against Eur, Aud, Nzd, Cad

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