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post Jan 30 2015, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(wongkoewei @ Jan 30 2015, 09:44 AM)
If can get this price, i really want to get two of them n CF kaw kaw~~  brows.gif  brows.gif
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CF ? Even single card can fill up 4GB. Two R9 290X will need 8GB.

I think now for Crossfire/Sli, we need 8GB per card or 16GB per two card. rclxms.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 30 2015, 09:49 AM)
CF ? Even single card can fill up 4GB. Two R9 290X will need 8GB.

I think now for Crossfire/Sli, we need 8GB per card or 16GB per two card.  rclxms.gif
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Frankly now only a very few case that 4GB will be bottlenecked.

For CF, the effective VRAM will not be increased as both cards will be provided with identical info, mean if a game that will use 3.5GB in single card, it will use up 7GB in total or 3.5GB per card if u go for CF.
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post Jan 30 2015, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(wongkoewei @ Jan 30 2015, 09:57 AM)
Frankly now only a very few case that 4GB will be bottlenecked.

For CF, the effective VRAM will not be increased as both cards will be provided with identical info, mean if a game that will use 3.5GB in single card, it will use up 7GB in total or 3.5GB per card if u go for CF.
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That's why we need 8GB per card so that when the processing power is twice, the RAM need to go twice icon_rolleyes.gif

Now very few case 4GB bottle neck. But I really don't care about now. I care about DirectX 12 and Mantle. Those two will use huge amount of VRAM drool.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 30 2015, 09:58 AM)
That's why we need 8GB per card so that when the processing power is twice, the RAM need to go twice  icon_rolleyes.gif

Now very few case 4GB bottle neck. But I really don't care about now. I care about DirectX 12 and Mantle. Those two will use huge amount of VRAM  drool.gif
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Source? hmm.gif

But I would like to see better games... I think games these days are prioritizing too much on graphics, instead of gameplay and technical issues. sweat.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jan 30 2015, 10:10 AM)
Source?  hmm.gif

But I would like to see better games...  I think games these days are prioritizing too much on graphics, instead of gameplay and technical issues. sweat.gif
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A million agree!!! many games i have played actually feel much interesting on their older version, like C&C tiberian series, I like Tiberium wars better than crappy latest end story Tiberium Twilight. Red Alert 2 was the 1st ever game I played, That feeling was soooo great. Many franchises tend to keep similar game play as their predecessors, Like COD series, I actually do not see any difference in gameplay since the first modern warfare when i start played this series, what different just the graphic and so called story (FPS got story???) whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jan 30 2015, 10:10 AM)
Source?  hmm.gif

But I would like to see better games...  I think games these days are prioritizing too much on graphics, instead of gameplay and technical issues. sweat.gif
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http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthr...usage-in-Mantle! rclxms.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(wongkoewei @ Jan 30 2015, 10:19 AM)
A million agree!!! many games i have played actually feel much interesting on their older version, like C&C tiberian series, I like Tiberium wars better than crappy latest end story Tiberium Twilight. Red Alert 2 was the 1st ever game I played, That feeling was soooo great. Many franchises tend to keep similar game play as their predecessors, Like COD series, I actually do not see any difference in gameplay since the first modern warfare when i start played this series, what different just the graphic and so called story (FPS got story???) whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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FPS got story... I mean old ones like CoD 1, which is one of the best FPS I used to play... tongue.gif

BTW, AMD is having a good time with disgruntled 970 owners... whistling.gif

http://wccftech.com/amd-offering-discounts...ry-controversy/

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post Jan 30 2015, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jan 30 2015, 10:31 AM)
FPS got story...  I mean old ones like CoD 1, which is one of the best FPS I used to play... tongue.gif

BTW, AMD is having a good time with disgruntled 970 owners... whistling.gif

http://wccftech.com/amd-offering-discounts...ry-controversy/
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Now they can relieve a bit, but they still got lots more to do as AMD financial situation are no where comparable with Nvidia and Intel. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
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QUOTE(wongkoewei @ Jan 30 2015, 10:37 AM)
Now they can relieve a bit, but they still got lots more to do as AMD financial situation are no where comparable with Nvidia and Intel.  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif
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Haha true
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post Jan 30 2015, 12:37 PM

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muahaha love amd jabbing nvidia and price cut as well

but we here sure no price drop
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post Jan 30 2015, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jan 29 2015, 10:30 PM)
hmm.gif not yet dare to plan for 2 r9 380x/390x( u sure is r9 390x? not 380x) as my budget is just rm2K un less i sell off  2 r9 290x...
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Eh,if the 380X comes out,i'm sure 390X will be out too. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(arifhasim85 @ Jan 30 2015, 12:29 AM)
come on bro.. you have such an ample space for your casing.. your case demand for crossfire setup. im pretty sure crossfire r9 290x will beat single r9 390x.. so dual r9 390x is a must!  tongue.gif
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at moment... rumor is AIO Hybrid cooler on R9 380X be out first, as R9 390X is out when or a day after/before Nvidia GTX 980 TI/Titan II. yes my case be enough space but... i DO not like Hybrid cooler.. (sorry not Fan for Water cooling.. i know weird but i dun like it)

QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jan 30 2015, 02:34 PM)
Eh,if the 380X comes out,i'm sure 390X will be out too. tongue.gif

"Lu pikey la sendiri!" - Nabil laugh.gif  biggrin.gif
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yes R9 390X be out but.. MY guess/opinion is R9 390X be out to compete GTX 980 TI/TITAN II so R9 380X be out First to take Title "King of HILL"

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post Jan 30 2015, 05:04 PM

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by way has anyone try The AMD beta Driver ?

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-ca...x-download.html
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post Jan 30 2015, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jan 30 2015, 05:04 PM)
by way has anyone try The AMD  beta Driver ?

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-ca...x-download.html
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I can't find it anywhere in AMD official page~
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QUOTE(wongkoewei @ Jan 30 2015, 05:17 PM)
I can't find it anywhere in AMD official page~
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it was design for Alienware hardware.. hmm i dunno i post on here so there be rat labs download and install it smile.gif hehe
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jan 30 2015, 05:53 PM)
it was design for Alienware hardware.. hmm  i dunno i post on here so there be rat labs download and install it smile.gif hehe
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Still using old 14.77.2 Beta. Was tried Omega Driver but it is a damned hell for my HD7870, everything were slow horribly inclusing loading windows... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 30 2015, 09:49 AM)
CF ? Even single card can fill up 4GB. Two R9 290X will need 8GB.

I think now for Crossfire/Sli, we need 8GB per card or 16GB per two card.  rclxms.gif
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I play BF4 @4K res @ultra & no AA with 290's CFX, the 4GB vram enough for me. It did run at below 3GB vram. The only time it does maxed out the 4GB vram is when there is memory leak issue in BF4 before. The 8GB may useful if there is memory leak but it only delay the inevitable.

For future proof, depends on whether you want to get the 3xx version later when they come out. If you want to settle with 290X for a while & Crossfire them in the future & probably running higher resolution + multi-monitor setup, then the 8GB card is a good choice. Usually once new 3xx gpus are out, current gpus will be out of stock, including the online store. The only way to get 290/290X gpus anymore that time is by go to lowyat. Also 8GB is considered rare unless more manufactures make 8GB cards too before new gpus come out. Take this into consideration before buying 8GB card. In my opinion, two cards or don't. It just my opinion anyway. smile.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jan 30 2015, 05:58 PM)
I play BF4 @4K res @ultra & no AA with 290's CFX, the 4GB vram enough for me. It did run at below 3GB vram. The only time it does maxed out the 4GB vram is when there is memory leak issue in BF4 before. The 8GB may useful if there is memory leak but it only delay the inevitable.

For future proof, depends on whether you want to get the 3xx version later when they come out. If you want to settle with 290X for a while & Crossfire them in the future & probably running higher resolution + multi-monitor setup, then the 8GB card is a good choice. Usually once new 3xx gpus are out, current gpus will be out of stock, including the online store. The only way to get 290/290X gpus anymore that time is by go to lowyat. Also 8GB is considered rare unless more manufactures make 8GB cards too before new gpus come out. Take this into consideration before buying 8GB card. In my opinion, two cards or don't. It just my opinion anyway.  smile.gif
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thanks. buy 2 card now or never. I'll take this into consideration. I'm into 8GB due to nVidia fiasco. Nowaday game developer very lazy.
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post Jan 30 2015, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 30 2015, 06:11 PM)
thanks. buy 2 card now or never. I'll take this into consideration. I'm into 8GB due to nVidia fiasco. Nowaday game developer very lazy.
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Nvidia fiasco? apa tu?
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post Jan 30 2015, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(wongkoewei @ Jan 30 2015, 06:16 PM)
Nvidia fiasco? apa tu?
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oh, the Gtx970 3.5GB fiasco... seems like people playing game crossing 3.5GB already... that's why they found the issue...

If now crossing 3.5GB, down the road in 1 year time, 6GB game will be norm.



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