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khelben
post Jun 17 2015, 09:26 AM

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I guess the Nano is not a Fiji?
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post Jun 17 2015, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(khelben @ Jun 17 2015, 09:26 AM)
I guess the Nano is not a Fiji?
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Nano is based on Fiji, probably a cut down version of it
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post Jun 17 2015, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(area61 @ Jun 17 2015, 09:32 AM)
Nano is based on Fiji, probably a cut down version of it
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Oh ok that's good to hear. I thought it'd be like a Hawaii or something.
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post Jun 17 2015, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(khelben @ Jun 17 2015, 09:33 AM)
Oh ok that's good to hear. I thought it'd be like a Hawaii or something.
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From what i see, i bet that the nano is going to be the price/perf sweet spot
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post Jun 17 2015, 09:41 AM

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hmm.gif R9 Nano looks interesting - not sure whether I want to upgrade my aging but still going strong 7950s... hmm.gif
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post Jun 17 2015, 10:00 AM

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whic driver is newer this

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-ca...5-download.html

or this

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desk...=Windows+7+-+64



the beta is 15.5 and new from guru 3d is 15.15 im confused
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post Jun 17 2015, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(khelben @ Jun 17 2015, 09:33 AM)
Oh ok that's good to hear. I thought it'd be like a Hawaii or something.
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Hawaii can't be designed with such a small PCB because it needs 16 GDDR5 memory for the 512 bit memory interface, not to mention the power circuits to accomodate that too.

Fiji had the HBM on the GPU packaging, so it can be made into a really small card.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 17 2015, 10:07 AM)
Hawaii can't be designed with such a small PCB because it needs 16 GDDR5 memory for the 512 bit memory interface, not to mention the power circuits to accomodate that too.

Fiji had the HBM on the GPU packaging, so it can be made into a really small card.
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True.

Now for the pricing, will it be in between Fury Pro and 390x?
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post Jun 17 2015, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jun 17 2015, 09:20 AM)
you are too paranoid.

It's nature that FuryX alone can't claim the title of most powerful card since there is a card which features two of it, of course more/most powerful title go to the latter.
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You are too forgiving and accepting. It's NATURAL to question all the hyperbole and marketing claims on these slides. Of course two is better than one. The point of he matter is that it took them TWO Fijis to claim that, instead of one. What's stopping them from putting on that same slide that claim of "world's fastest single GPU" right next to the Fury X, instead of putting that "world's fastest graphics card" on the dual Fiji instead?

CFX implementation on anything AMD is still poor so even if it does claim the world's fastest graphics card, having to deal with CFX peculiarities like micro stuttering and missing CFX profiles alone does not ensure "the best 4K experience" as what they claimed. It's like having the fastest Ferrari car around but giving it to drive to an 18 year old who just pass his driving license test. Single GPU card is still the metric to look for to avoid CFX complications. rolleyes.gif

You can be defensive about folks questioning AMD all you want, but it doesn't help their cause when they're not being true to their own claims. Or in this case, side skirting around vague claims and statements.

Personally to me, THIS was the only good thing that came out of the presentation yesterday:



It shows forward thinking and innovation on behalf of AMD to think outside the box on what their HBM implementation has done to shrink the PC form factor into a form which was not possible before. Almost like a PC version of that dustbin-looking Mac Pro.

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post Jun 17 2015, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(AMDmy @ Jun 15 2015, 01:08 PM)


The time has come! biggrin.gif

So many benchies going around already.
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Nice guys

Project quantum with asrock z97 n Intel cpu.

Atleast ure pr dude was gaming with a 295x2+290 with a amd fx 9series on LOL.




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post Jun 17 2015, 10:26 AM

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No picture of the air cooled Fury?
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post Jun 17 2015, 10:34 AM

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Hmm that 8.6 teraflops of single compute is no joke.

Looking at the math
4096/2816x5.6= 8.15. So theres extra .45 from fiji that indicates new gcn improvement.

Really need to see the new gcn feature level support. If its tier 3 on all categories seriously interesting.

This card is perfect for a itx build.


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post Jun 17 2015, 10:34 AM

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To be honest, I am disappointed with AMD line up from 360 to 390x.

I saw many AMD defenders at other forum defending the rebranding saying Nvidia did it too for the 8800GTX, 9800GTX, 9800GTX+ and GTS250.......

But they forgot about the incremental features added by nvidia into each 'rebrand'.
From 8800GTX to 9800GTX, Nvidia added H264 and VC1 Purevideo 2 (unofficial name) decoding block, in addition of die shrink from 90nm to 65nm, giving it higher clock speed and power usage improvement (155watts down to 140watts).
From 9800GTX to 9800GTX+, it is another die shrink from 65nm to 50nm giving it higher clocked gpu core with slight power increase (140watts to 141watts) negating the power saving from die shrink in order to compete with HD4850.
From 9800GTX+ to GTS250, the gpu reference board was optimized to be smaller and use less components and energy.


Fiji family is the only range that have my interest due to all its additional features such as HBM, GCN 1.2 (At least?), increase in gcn cores, ROP and Texture Units.

EDIT: any incremental feature like updated UVD or VCE for 360 to 390x other than higher gpu and memory clock and larger vram?

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Did anyone discuss on the pricing? USD649, USD549, i think this is great pricing.Fury X is way cheaper than titan x, Fury Air cooled is slightly cheaper than 980 Ti.

Fury Air cooled caught my attention, probably get one of this, and water cooled it to fit into my ncase M1. Started to think about waterblok or if i can reuse my existing universal block with proper mounting brackets.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 17 2015, 10:34 AM)
Hmm that 8.6 teraflops of single compute is no joke.

Looking at the math
4096/2816x5.6= 8.15. So theres extra .45 from fiji that indicates new gcn improvement.

Really need to see the new gcn feature level support. If its tier 3 on all categories seriously interesting.

This card is perfect for a itx build.
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Yes. I stated before if they can get similar performance around 980, with that small form factor (air cooled), it is nice perfect setup for me at least.

Im using Ncase M1 casing, custom loop both gpu and cpu water cooled. I need a GPU replacement, still thinking of going Fury or stick with nvidia. And need new VRR monitor. Had to plan my purchase.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jun 17 2015, 10:40 AM)
Did anyone discuss on the pricing?  USD649, USD549, i think this is great pricing.Fury X is way cheaper than titan x, Fury Air cooled is slightly cheaper than 980 Ti.

Fury Air cooled caught my attention, probably get one of this, and water cooled it to fit into my ncase M1.  Started to think about waterblok or if i can reuse my existing universal block with proper mounting brackets.
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About the pricing though, I read at some forum mentioning someone from reddit will eat his shoe or sock if the Fury X costs less than USD 650........which AMD priced at USD649.....so..... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 17 2015, 10:47 AM)
About the pricing though, I read at some forum mentioning someone from reddit will eat his shoe or sock if the Fury X costs less than USD 650........which AMD priced at USD649.....so..... whistling.gif
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suddenly im so exited of going to freeysync route instead of g-sync. As perfect g-sync/freesync monitor still non-available in malaysia. Whichever came first i'll go for that.

That small form factor of air cooled fury really caught my attention, and of course the price. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jun 17 2015, 10:49 AM)
suddenly im so exited of going to freeysync route instead of g-sync.  As perfect g-sync/freesync monitor still non-available in malaysia.  Whichever came first i'll go for that.

That small form factor of air cooled fury really caught my attention, and of course the price.  thumbup.gif
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Both freesync and gsync really costs a bomb.
Wouldn't recommend you to buy it yet. There are some issues associated with variable refresh rate for both.
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post Jun 17 2015, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 17 2015, 10:52 AM)
Both freesync and gsync really costs a bomb.
Wouldn't recommend you to buy it yet.  There are some issues associated with variable refresh rate for both.
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I'm well inform of both VRR tech. I've made the decision to go for it. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 17 2015, 10:57 AM

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Lol hwlabs.. Wilbert didny deny yet confirm.

Those are hwlabs nemesis gts rads.

AMD spared no expense on quality this time. Fark it. I am buying either the quantum or Fury X.

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