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The Official Lowyat.NET Sintua Thread, A thread on Chinese folk religion.
The Official Lowyat.NET Sintua Thread, A thread on Chinese folk religion.
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Feb 24 2015, 08:39 PM
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I think are real
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Feb 24 2015, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(awwman @ Feb 24 2015, 08:39 PM) I think are real Wonder what happened within the span of five hours to make you change your mind. |
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Feb 24 2015, 10:11 PM
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Maybe I experienced before
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Feb 25 2015, 03:34 PM
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I actually try to look for more information on Google and well...seems that information is either sparse or not really available in English.
In fact, the top result when one types "Sintua religion" is this thread. Is it known by another name in English? If not, perhaps you might want to start a wiki entry? Or does one of the entries here accurately describe your beliefs? If so, which one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_folk_religion |
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Feb 25 2015, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(arubin @ Feb 25 2015, 03:34 PM) I actually try to look for more information on Google and well...seems that information is either sparse or not really available in English. Chinese folk religion/Shenism is exactly what it is.In fact, the top result when one types "Sintua religion" is this thread. Is it known by another name in English? If not, perhaps you might want to start a wiki entry? Or does one of the entries here accurately describe your beliefs? If so, which one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_folk_religion 'Sintua' (this is a Hokkien phrase; it is 'shen tan'/神坛 in Mandarin) is the term for the shrine-based worship commonly associated with the faith. |
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Feb 25 2015, 04:09 PM
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Feb 25 2015, 11:54 PM
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Those dolls are they real?
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Feb 27 2015, 11:28 AM
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Nacht. More please!
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Feb 27 2015, 01:42 PM
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What are the rituals performed on the eighth night and ninth day of Chinese New Year?
Once upon a time, medieval-era Hokkiens, fleeing persecution (the persecutors are variously described as Mongols, Manchus, Japanese pirates or simply local bandits), prayed to the Heavenly Emperor (this is either the Jade Emperor or his boss, depending on whom you ask) for deliverance. He guided the fugitives into a vast field of sugar cane, where they securely hid. Their pursuers got hopelessly lost in their attempt to explore the field and gave up the search, thus allowing the Hokkiens to escape unharmed. This event took place over the eighth night and the ninth day of Chinese New Year. From then on, people of Hokkien descent perform thanksgiving rituals to the Heavenly Emperor each New Year on the abovementioned dates. Sugar cane is an item prominently featured during these rites. ![]() |
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Feb 27 2015, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Feb 27 2015, 01:42 PM) What are the rituals performed on the eighth night and ninth day of Chinese New Year? Just about to ask this praying ritual since its CNY.Once upon a time, medieval-era Hokkiens, fleeing persecution (the persecutors are variously described as Mongols, Manchus, Japanese pirates or simply local bandits), prayed to the Heavenly Emperor (this is either the Jade Emperor or his boss, depending on whom you ask) for deliverance. He guided the fugitives into a vast field of sugar cane, where they securely hid. Their pursuers got hopelessly lost in their attempt to explore the field and gave up the search, thus allowing the Hokkiens to escape unharmed. This event took place over the eighth night and the ninth day of Chinese New Year. From then on, people of Hokkien descent perform thanksgiving rituals to the Heavenly Emperor each New Year on the abovementioned dates. Sugar cane is an item prominently featured during these rites. ![]() Which is the specific god that v r praying instead of just saying Tien Gong? |
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Feb 27 2015, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(dp82 @ Feb 27 2015, 07:41 PM) Just about to ask this praying ritual since its CNY. Try reading my post again.Which is the specific god that v r praying instead of just saying Tien Gong? |
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Feb 27 2015, 10:54 PM
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Yes i read...."either Jade Emperor/ his boss".
That's y i asked which specific god since u mentioned "or". And i thought Jade Emperor is " Yuk Wong Dai Dei" not Tian Gong? |
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Feb 28 2015, 03:33 AM
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QUOTE(dp82 @ Feb 27 2015, 10:54 PM) Yes i read...."either Jade Emperor/ his boss". LOL That's y i asked which specific god since u mentioned "or". And i thought Jade Emperor is " Yuk Wong Dai Dei" not Tian Gong? the Jade Emperor is the Great Emperor of Jade 玉皇上帝 or aka Heavenly Grandfather 天公 However, the Ninth Emperor 九皇大帝/九皇爷/九王爷 is a totally different person. Jade Emperor is the supreme leader of Heaven. Ninth Emperor is the Emperor of the ninth star at northern sky (7s of Northern Big Dipper + 2 other star) 贪狼巨门禄存文曲廉贞武曲破军 + 左辅右弼 |
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Feb 28 2015, 03:43 AM
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Feb 28 2015, 03:33 AM) LOL The Jade Emperor is not the supreme leader, lol.the Jade Emperor is the Great Emperor of Jade 玉皇上帝 or aka Heavenly Grandfather 天公 However, the Ninth Emperor 九皇大帝/九皇爷/九王爷 is a totally different person. Jade Emperor is the supreme leader of Heaven. Ninth Emperor is the Emperor of the ninth star at northern sky (7s of Northern Big Dipper + 2 other star) 贪狼巨门禄存文曲廉贞武曲破军 + 左辅右弼 He is the CEO. There are others whom he answers to - the board of directors. |
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Feb 28 2015, 07:20 AM
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Feb 28 2015, 07:31 AM
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Who are on the board of directors then?
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Feb 28 2015, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Feb 28 2015, 07:31 AM) Who are on the board of directors then? The board of directors comprise the San Qing/三清, the Three Pure Ones.They comprise the Great Primordial aka Yuan Shi Tian Jun/元始天尊, who created Heaven and Earth, the Lord of the Sacred Treasure aka Ling Bao Tian Jun/灵宝天尊, who created time, and Lord Lao Zi aka Tai Shang Lao Jun/太上老君, who expounded the Way to the people. Their involvement with the world is now minimal, as they have largely relegated its management to the Jade Emperor and the other deities. When some people refer to the Heavenly Emperor/天公, they mean the Great Primordial rather than the Jade Emperor. Pictured below are (from left to right) Lord Lao Zi, the Great Primordial and the Lord of the Sacred Treasure. ![]() |
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Feb 28 2015, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(teamjoker @ Feb 28 2015, 09:29 AM) These board of directors, are they still in the samsara cycle or already achieve arhathood in the buddhist concept? Most of the gods are considered far beyond the cycle of death and rebirth. |
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Feb 28 2015, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(teamjoker @ Feb 28 2015, 09:45 AM) Well, I believe some Gods can live up to millions and billions of years old but in Buddhist concept, if the Gods did not liberate themselves, they will still fall into the samsara cycle when the time comes. Earth is appprox 4 billion years old. The board of directors could be hundreds of billion years old. but somehow, I believe, given their enlightment stage, they probably achieved arhathood by now. Absolutely.As far as the universe goes, the Earth is one of its youngest components. Time did not begin with the creation of the Earth, nor will it end with the Earth's destruction. |
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Mar 1 2015, 01:21 AM
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According to Wikipedia:
His predecessor and successor[edit] The Jade Emperor was originally the assistant of the Divine Master of the Heavenly Origin, Yuanshi Tianzun. Yuanshi Tianzun is said to be the supreme beginning, the limitless and eternal creator of Heaven and Earth, who picked Yu-huang, or the Jade Emperor, as his personal successor. The Jade Emperor will eventually be succeeded by the Heavenly Master of the Dawn of Jade of the Golden Door (金闕玉晨天尊).[1] The characters for both are stamped on the front of the arms of his throne. In two folk automatic writing texts in 1925 and 1972, Guan Yu became the 18th Jade Emperor in about 1840 AD;[2][3][4] however, some have disagreed that Guan Yu has succeeded, and thus the Jade Emperor and Guan Yu are often worshiped separately.[5] In Tienti teachings, the current jade emperor has 55 predecessors.[6] |
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