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 The Official Lowyat.NET Sintua Thread, A thread on Chinese folk religion.

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post Jan 27 2015, 04:53 PM

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In one of the guaitan series, one of the sifus mentioned that worship of hell deities seems common in Malaysia, and advised against such worship since hell deities are of the yin element while humans are more of the yang element.
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post Jan 28 2015, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jan 27 2015, 06:42 PM)
In all honesty, I would say that Hell deities are more widely worshipped in Singapore than in Malaysia. The reason for this trend lies in the Second World War, during which Singapore experienced some of the worst bloodshed in proportion to area of land. Many restless, tortured souls roamed the island, necessitating the worship of Hell deities in order to 'keep the peace'.

As for advising against worship of Hell deities, bear in mind that they are warriors of justice - the spiritual police force and judicial system. One would be hard pressed to find more upright beings to worship. I trust them more than I trust most human beings.

While it is true that some people cannot tolerate the Yin energy that the Hell deities radiate, the Hell deities do not do this intentionally; the Yin energy is part of their spiritual composition, the very fibre of their being. They will never hurt an innocent person, and will be more than willing to undo or prevent any unwitting damage that their Yin energy may have inflicted.
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Well, the sifu advised ppl to worship heavenly deities instead of hell deities due to this factor, that's all.
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post Jan 28 2015, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 28 2015, 03:10 PM)
May I kindly seek clarification from you guys on how the Chinese folk religion is dissimilar to the Greek mythology?
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No one worships the Greek gods anymore...not that I know of..lol.
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post Jan 28 2015, 04:18 PM

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If I recall correctly from one of the guaitan series when they filmed in Perak, a medium supposedly under trance of Li Ya Pek, came and disturb a filming of guaitan, so the sifu uttered some mantra to close the session invoking the heavenly armies, and the medium gave out a shriek....lol.
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post Jan 29 2015, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jan 29 2015, 04:17 AM)
怪谈 is a load of horseshit, lol.

And 'Master Szeto' is a very unethical man.
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Actually I remember it wasn't master szetho but another sifu whose name escaped my memory now. I'll try to search it on YouTube and post the link here once I found it.

Found it: Part 1
Part 2

The Li Ya Pek medium appears in Part 2.

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post Feb 5 2015, 11:00 AM

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OK, next questions from me. How to know which rock or tree or whatever has a spirit? How to determine which spirits are benevolent, and which are malevolent?

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post Feb 5 2015, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Feb 5 2015, 06:14 PM)
My usual course of action when passing a Datuk shrine is a polite bow and a subtle "Assalamualaikum, Datuk", "Apa khabar, Datuk" or "Cucu tumpang lalu, Datuk." It pleases them when you make an effort to talk their talk or abide by their customs.

Being in the vicinity of a Datuk shrine after consuming non-Halal items can be asking for trouble, by the way.
Ah, you must mean almanacs. Those are astrology-related items, and I wouldn't really consider them within the scope of this thread. tongue.gif
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Interesting....how does a Datuk differ from Tudi Gong?
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post Feb 6 2015, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Feb 5 2015, 08:11 PM)
Datuks are Malay nature spirits who function as the spiritual 'landlords' of Malay soil. A sizeable number of them are Muslim, and the appearances of their statues often reflect this fact. They can be strict and aggressive in nature, some being warriors. They are not found anywhere outside of the Malay Archipelago.
I was wondering, if they are really Muslim, wouldn't they be horrified to be worshiped in such a manner like other Chinese deities? hmm.gif
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Killing is not always wrong. For example, the state has a right and duty to kill sometimes to preserve law and order and prevent further harm to society in general.

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post Feb 9 2015, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Feb 9 2015, 02:28 PM)
Let me help bring the thread back to its topic if i may...

isn't  Sun Wukong also known as the Monkey King, a fictional character created by author of Wu Cheng'en 吴承恩 's Journey to the West 西遊記?

It is one thing to pray to a legendary hero, one believed to have lived once, but to pray to a truly man-made/ fictional one is another.

Please clarify.
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I personally think Sun Wukong is the Chinese version of Hanuman.
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post Feb 11 2015, 05:33 PM

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Question: Which is more powerful? Tudi Gong of the area or the Datuk Gong of the area, if they are not the same entity?

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post Feb 12 2015, 05:28 PM

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Can you post details about the common Thai occult worship? I always see some altars have a lady with snake-like hand posture. Wondering who or what is she?

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post Feb 13 2015, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Feb 12 2015, 05:34 PM)
Thai occult stuff is totally beyond the scope of this thread, sorry.
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But i think since sintua incorporates many other deities even those not originally Chinese, such as Datuk Gong, it could be part of this thread.
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QUOTE(Wolves @ Feb 14 2015, 11:13 AM)
Just curious if the "lady with snake-like" hand posture means the hand is snake form or raise the hand like a snake and the lady is sitting with the legs at the side position?
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Yes, who is she?

As for Thai deities, I think most also worship the Hindu gods like Shiva, Brahma, Krishna, etc. Even the famous 4-face Buddha is not really Buddha but the Hindu god Brahma.

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Why are you sticking your mouth with hell bank notes instead of sticking out your tongue? LOL
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post Feb 20 2015, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Feb 20 2015, 03:35 PM)
Who is the Filial Son?

Long, long ago, there lived an unfilial young man who preferred to gamble, drink and womanise rather than care for his ailing mother. Only once she passed away did he realise how wrong he had treated her, although it was of course too late by then. The distraught youth lamented so severely by her grave that he wept tears of blood, wasted away and died shortly thereafter, as well.

Upon his arrival in Hell, the Ten Judges, as a punishment for his lack of filial piety, turned him into a wretched, perpetually depressed ghostly being, doomed to forever lament his neglectful ways - the Filial Son/孝子爷, god of mourning and funerals. Aside from presiding over last rites and ensuring that the deceased receives a proper send-off, he is a living (unliving? undead?) reminder that one should be kind to kith and kin while they are still alive, particularly parents and elders.

Statues of the Filial Son depict a sad-looking young man, sometimes with painted-on tears of blood coursing down his cheeks, dressed in sackcloth mourning garments and carrying a lantern emblazoned with the word 孝 ('filial'), the way the next-of-kin at traditional Chinese funerals do. He also holds a wand of warding - a tool that he uses to ward off malevolent presences from funerals and burials. Mediums who channel the Filial Son dress identically to his statues, and are prone to weeping uncontrollably.

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Looking at the hat of the medium, even in death, the Chinese wishes for money & prosperity..lol.

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At 2:40, is that the Filial Son but done by a female?
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post Mar 1 2015, 01:21 AM

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According to Wikipedia:

His predecessor and successor[edit]
The Jade Emperor was originally the assistant of the Divine Master of the Heavenly Origin, Yuanshi Tianzun. Yuanshi Tianzun is said to be the supreme beginning, the limitless and eternal creator of Heaven and Earth, who picked Yu-huang, or the Jade Emperor, as his personal successor. The Jade Emperor will eventually be succeeded by the Heavenly Master of the Dawn of Jade of the Golden Door (金闕玉晨天尊).[1] The characters for both are stamped on the front of the arms of his throne. In two folk automatic writing texts in 1925 and 1972, Guan Yu became the 18th Jade Emperor in about 1840 AD;[2][3][4] however, some have disagreed that Guan Yu has succeeded, and thus the Jade Emperor and Guan Yu are often worshiped separately.[5] In Tienti teachings, the current jade emperor has 55 predecessors.[6]
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 2 2015, 09:57 AM)
Hi Nacht, I remember when I was growing up, there are two deities that my dad and mom were praying to and they are situated at the edge of our beds and one above side of stove/cooking area respectively.

I seldom see them being prayed to in modern houses, but never quite too sure why...

Can you share with me what are their stories, their origins, etc.?

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Near cooking area should be the Kitchen god i think. Not sure about the one at the edge of your bed.
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Why is it the 2 imp-like creatures have the same headband like Monkey King? Is it also used to subdue them the same way Guan Yin subdues Monkey King?

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