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nexona88
post Dec 26 2014, 12:13 PM

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post Dec 26 2014, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 26 2014, 12:13 PM)
kids nowadays.. everything need spoon-feed.
sendiri cari kat google pun malas  cool2.gif
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post Dec 26 2014, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 26 2014, 01:13 PM)
What excitement u want? brows.gif

U see me reply so fast...I'm rotting at office right now yawn.gif doh.gif
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I got a little excited seeing your new avatar pic.. Viet?
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post Dec 26 2014, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 26 2014, 12:28 PM)
I got a little excited seeing your new avatar pic.. Viet?
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post Dec 26 2014, 12:42 PM

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Helo everyone, i need some thoughts here, I'm interested in reits, but am not sure which platform to start, a UT reits fund or wit bursa reits, it seems less risky wit UT reits as 1 fund invest into a few reits than to having a few reits on bursa, am looking for Amasia pacific reits class b, it's a fund which invest the fund solely on reits comparing to other reits fund in fsm, others reits + stock, so my question is UT reits vs. bursa reits (better option as in better return/manageable), please advise thanks wink.gif

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post Dec 26 2014, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(yeowhock @ Dec 26 2014, 12:42 PM)
Helo everyone, i need some thoughts here, I'm interested in reits, but am not sure which platform to start, a UT reits fund or wit bursa reits, it seems less risky wit UT reits as 1 fund invest into a few reits than to having a few reits on bursa, am looking for Amasia pacific reits class b, it's a fund which invest the fund solely on reits comparing to other reits fund in fsm, others reits + stock, so my question is UT reits vs. bursa reits (better option as in better return/manageable), please advise thanks wink.gif
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My opinion -

I invest in REITs as substitute for investing in real estates - I want stream of cash flows. Thus, I chose to invest in REITs thru Bursa.

If u invest in a REIT fund, the dividends received are all reinvested; if u want the cash flow, u gotta manually sell some units yourself.

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post Dec 26 2014, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 26 2014, 12:47 PM)
My opinion -

I invest in REITs as substitute for investing in real estates - I want stream of cash flows. Thus, I chose to invest in REITs thru Bursa.

If u invest in a REIT fund, the dividends received are all reinvested; if u want the cash flow, u gotta manually sell some units yourself.
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I see, u mean bursa reits has better cash flows as in return? But how many of bursa reits do I need(assuming no loss be it UT reits or bursa reits) to be comparable with UT reits return, how is the performance ratio for bursa reits vs UT reits? Plus do you often withdraw the profit return from bursa reits? sounds promising wink.gif
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post Dec 26 2014, 01:04 PM

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why is boring?no yumcha today?

QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 26 2014, 01:12 PM)
Boring day!
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anyway ask how to chose the best

1)Authorised Depository Agents (ADAs), i.e. stockbroking companies

2)Bursa Registered Brokers for trading activities


help appreciated.
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post Dec 26 2014, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(yeowhock @ Dec 26 2014, 01:03 PM)
I see, u mean bursa reits has better cash flows as in return? But how many of bursa reits do I need(assuming no loss be it UT reits or bursa reits) to be comparable with UT reits return, how is the performance ratio for bursa reits vs UT reits? Plus do you often withdraw the profit return from bursa reits? sounds promising wink.gif
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Unit trust funds typically reinvest the dividends received UNLESS u opt to receive the dividends in cash. With FSM, all dividends are reinvested. If u want cash flows, u have to manually sell some units.

This, u gotta go Google and understand what is unit trust.

When I buy REITs, I rarely sell any. Treat them some sort of like Fixed Deposits.
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post Dec 26 2014, 01:08 PM

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REITS.. get from Bursa lah.. cheaper
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post Dec 26 2014, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 26 2014, 01:06 PM)
Unit trust funds typically reinvest the dividends received UNLESS u opt to receive the dividends in cash. With FSM, all dividends are reinvested. If u want cash flows, u have to manually sell some units.

This, u gotta go Google and understand what is unit trust.

When I buy REITs, I rarely sell any. Treat them some sort of like Fixed Deposits.
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Yup, I kinda get the idea of investing in UT, you're right, i do look at it like FD wink.gif , still learning ways of different investing platform, i have a few UT funds with FSM, does it make sense if I invest in both, bursa reits n UT reits? I don't want to look like blindly invest or over diversify hahah
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post Dec 26 2014, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 26 2014, 01:08 PM)
REITS.. get from Bursa lah.. cheaper
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Actually I lazy to go thru the trouble of opening the CDs acc, so I thought if UT reits a better option I just focus on UT reits as I have a few UT funds too wink.gif
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post Dec 26 2014, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(yeowhock @ Dec 26 2014, 01:17 PM)
Yup, I kinda get the idea of investing in UT, you're right, i do look at it like FD wink.gif , still learning ways of different investing platform, i have a few UT funds with FSM, does it make sense if I invest in both, bursa reits n UT reits? I don't want to look like blindly invest or over diversify hahah
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There is some pros and cons of investing in REIT fund vs REITs

A good REIT manager can do more in-depth research and study than us.

But, a REIT fund manager may sell off REITs that show paper loss on his portfolio with good and stable yield to make his annual/interim report look nice (window dressing whistling.gif ).

If u invest in REITs yourself thru Bursa, u may choose to keep those REITs; eventually the dividends will cover the paper/price loss if u keep them long enough.

Well, this point is also valid for other dividend-yielding stocks.

If u have time and diligence to do some research and study yourself, IMHO it's better and more rewarding to invest in REITs and dividend stocks yourself than to buy a REIT/Dividend UT fund.

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post Dec 26 2014, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 26 2014, 01:25 PM)
There is some pros and cons of investing in REIT fund vs REITs

A good REIT manager can do more in-depth research and study than us.

But, a REIT fund manager may sell off REITs that show paper loss on his portfolio with good and stable yield to make his annual/interim report look nice (window dressing whistling.gif ).

If u invest in REITs yourself thru Bursa, u may choose to keep those REITs; eventually the dividends will cover the paper/price loss if u keep them long enough.

Well, this point is also valid for other dividend-yielding stocks.

If u have time and diligence to do some research and study yourself, IMHO it's better and more rewarding to invest in REITs and dividend stocks yourself than to buy a REIT/Dividend UT fund.
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Hahah now it's more like reits manager vs self-invest, but I do see your point, thank you for your thoughts
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post Dec 26 2014, 01:40 PM

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I am old...cannot take "One Important Risk You Might Have Overlooked with REITs"....
http://www.fool.sg/2013/08/01/one-importan...ked-with-reits/
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 26 2014, 01:40 PM)
I am old...cannot take "One Important Risk You Might Have Overlooked with REITs"....
http://www.fool.sg/2013/08/01/one-importan...ked-with-reits/
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ini...accounting

Interest on loans are treated as expenses.

If a REIT/stock is distributing 100% of its EARNINGS to shareholders, means that it has already covered the interest payments.

Loan maturing? Dig new hole to cover old hole Take new loan to pay off old loan lor...REFINANCE, unker! biggrin.gif

Worse case, new loan will get higher interest rate - this will reduce future earnings, hence dividends. Won't do much harm actually

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QUOTE(MyRedz @ Dec 26 2014, 01:04 PM)
why is boring?no yumcha today?
anyway ask how to chose the best

1)Authorised Depository Agents (ADAs), i.e. stockbroking companies

2)Bursa Registered Brokers for trading activities
help appreciated.
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please click...

i'm also rotting in the office...

REALLY need a job change...
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post Dec 26 2014, 02:16 PM

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Rotting in the office....
they have a term for it....
DEFINITION of 'Underemployment'

A measure of employment and labor utilization in the economy that looks at how well the labor force is being utilized in terms of skills, experience and availability to work. Labor that falls under the underemployment classification includes those workers that are highly skilled but working in low paying jobs, workers that are highly skilled but work in low skill jobs and part-time workers that would prefer to be full-time. This is different from unemployment in that the individual is working but isn't working at their full capability. ....investopedia.

I just so envy you guys.....because you realized it....

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post Dec 26 2014, 02:51 PM

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Sometimes is better to rot in the office than to rot at home, no? ;p
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post Dec 26 2014, 02:52 PM

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Do you guys wanna like make a whatsapp group? Me and Arvinaaaaa wanna do it :3
Newbies till Sifus also can..


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