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yeowhock
post Dec 26 2014, 12:42 PM

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Helo everyone, i need some thoughts here, I'm interested in reits, but am not sure which platform to start, a UT reits fund or wit bursa reits, it seems less risky wit UT reits as 1 fund invest into a few reits than to having a few reits on bursa, am looking for Amasia pacific reits class b, it's a fund which invest the fund solely on reits comparing to other reits fund in fsm, others reits + stock, so my question is UT reits vs. bursa reits (better option as in better return/manageable), please advise thanks wink.gif

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post Dec 26 2014, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 26 2014, 12:47 PM)
My opinion -

I invest in REITs as substitute for investing in real estates - I want stream of cash flows. Thus, I chose to invest in REITs thru Bursa.

If u invest in a REIT fund, the dividends received are all reinvested; if u want the cash flow, u gotta manually sell some units yourself.
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I see, u mean bursa reits has better cash flows as in return? But how many of bursa reits do I need(assuming no loss be it UT reits or bursa reits) to be comparable with UT reits return, how is the performance ratio for bursa reits vs UT reits? Plus do you often withdraw the profit return from bursa reits? sounds promising wink.gif
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post Dec 26 2014, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 26 2014, 01:06 PM)
Unit trust funds typically reinvest the dividends received UNLESS u opt to receive the dividends in cash. With FSM, all dividends are reinvested. If u want cash flows, u have to manually sell some units.

This, u gotta go Google and understand what is unit trust.

When I buy REITs, I rarely sell any. Treat them some sort of like Fixed Deposits.
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Yup, I kinda get the idea of investing in UT, you're right, i do look at it like FD wink.gif , still learning ways of different investing platform, i have a few UT funds with FSM, does it make sense if I invest in both, bursa reits n UT reits? I don't want to look like blindly invest or over diversify hahah
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post Dec 26 2014, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 26 2014, 01:08 PM)
REITS.. get from Bursa lah.. cheaper
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Actually I lazy to go thru the trouble of opening the CDs acc, so I thought if UT reits a better option I just focus on UT reits as I have a few UT funds too wink.gif
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post Dec 26 2014, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 26 2014, 01:25 PM)
There is some pros and cons of investing in REIT fund vs REITs

A good REIT manager can do more in-depth research and study than us.

But, a REIT fund manager may sell off REITs that show paper loss on his portfolio with good and stable yield to make his annual/interim report look nice (window dressing whistling.gif ).

If u invest in REITs yourself thru Bursa, u may choose to keep those REITs; eventually the dividends will cover the paper/price loss if u keep them long enough.

Well, this point is also valid for other dividend-yielding stocks.

If u have time and diligence to do some research and study yourself, IMHO it's better and more rewarding to invest in REITs and dividend stocks yourself than to buy a REIT/Dividend UT fund.
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Hahah now it's more like reits manager vs self-invest, but I do see your point, thank you for your thoughts
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post Dec 26 2014, 02:51 PM

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Sometimes is better to rot in the office than to rot at home, no? ;p
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post Dec 26 2014, 02:53 PM

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Forever alone level 9999
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post Dec 26 2014, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Dec 26 2014, 02:52 PM)
Do you guys wanna like make a whatsapp group? Me and Arvinaaaaa wanna do it :3
Newbies till Sifus also can..
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Gud idea but sometimes is quite annoying u know, tat notification n scrolling part, not tat I object the idea
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post Dec 26 2014, 03:20 PM

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The 0.5 sales charge only for the UT event in mvalley? Looks like no promotion for the site anytime soon, I guess is time to utilize cash mgmt fund, but since I do lump sum every month, don't hv extra balance to put it there ;(
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post Dec 26 2014, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(MyRedz @ Dec 26 2014, 06:45 PM)
hi..who did a job change
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Y u r asking? Not wise ba to change job now, looking at cny n gst around the corner
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post Jan 1 2015, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 26 2014, 01:25 PM)
There is some pros and cons of investing in REIT fund vs REITs

A good REIT manager can do more in-depth research and study than us.

But, a REIT fund manager may sell off REITs that show paper loss on his portfolio with good and stable yield to make his annual/interim report look nice (window dressing whistling.gif ).

If u invest in REITs yourself thru Bursa, u may choose to keep those REITs; eventually the dividends will cover the paper/price loss if u keep them long enough.

Well, this point is also valid for other dividend-yielding stocks.

If u have time and diligence to do some research and study yourself, IMHO it's better and more rewarding to invest in REITs and dividend stocks yourself than to buy a REIT/Dividend UT fund.
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My decision in investing into reit fund/reits has bcome frm uncertain to more uncertain

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/k...ile-bond-market

Furthermore i got bond funds, n my kenanga growth + eastspring sc not recovering much, hmm pain
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post Jan 1 2015, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 1 2015, 11:16 AM)
Like I've said before, if u hold long enough, the dividends will be more than enough to cover for your capital losses.

But then, u still have to pick good REITs, some "bad" REITs suffer capital losses that dividends can barely cover...see ARREIT and AMFIRST...see their 5-year chart. sweat.gif
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Ok noted, keyword "long enough", "5 year chart" smile.gif

Happy new year everyone, HUAT ah!!
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post Jan 12 2015, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Jan 12 2015, 01:28 PM)
I see RO Player is back tongue.gif
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the fortune teller wink.gif
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post Jan 19 2015, 08:44 AM

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Nice efforts explaining a clearer picture of nav, no.units n distribution, a better understanding for me, i like the mooncake explanation smile.gif
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post Jan 20 2015, 11:44 AM

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apasal itu EI AP ex Jpn Target Return min inv shows rm500 at web ;p

how many of us here actually have both CIMB AP ex Jpn and EI AP ex Jpn Target Return?? i got CIMB d, aiyo very tempting la the promo
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post Jan 20 2015, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 20 2015, 11:46 AM)
boleh guna (censored) lol, simpan rm100 sahaja for initial investment
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actually is not about the min inv la ;p but to buy just to have it is like less meaning d (mcm emotional over logic) haha, y hving 2 funds covering the same region hmm.. and oso scared headache to split contribution later

EI strategy (based on EI AP Equity) on AP almost same with CIMB AP ex Jpn Dynamic, oso major in Aus n HK
next promo la, wait for the Target Return factsheet n see how wink.gif

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post Jan 20 2015, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 20 2015, 12:39 PM)
Really? Wow  rclxm9.gif , Initial amount reduced by 1/2 (did not noticed that) and 1%SC..... rclxms.gif Good news..for that that want to get in.
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is really typo i guess, i tried d, need 1k min inv haha
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post Jan 20 2015, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 20 2015, 12:52 PM)
just remembered the reason why some who have more than 1 of the same coverage.
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if Mr Chen refering to EI AP ex Jpn Target Return n having other similar same covered region, sure must support his own fund abit la

but to me, diversification is more like covering other different regions thus minimize risk than hvng a focus fund/investment

no comment on diversification on strategy, i guess that is the next step

thanks for pointing out wink.gif
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post Jan 20 2015, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 20 2015, 01:22 PM)
hmm.gif i think Mr Chen is NOT saying that to promote his fund.... doh.gif  when he said that he is not promoting EI funds....
he was talking about "Psychology and Investing"
Synopsis: Successful investing doesn't require one to be a genius. In fact, Warren Buffett once quipped, "Success in investing doesn't correlate with I.Q. once you're above the level of 25. Once you have ordinary intelligence, what you need is the temperament to control the urges that get other people into trouble in investing." Here we look at some of the common psychological barriers and mental pitfalls preventing investor from becoming more successful and explore strategies to overcome them.

i think he is JUST saying "even though similar mandate, strategy and stock selection could be different between fund houses" is in the post above.
david83 is that correct?
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i was just kidding when i said Mr Chen supporting his fund tongue.gif chill.. chill.. smile.gif

becoz of the promo, so it just crossed my mind whether to have it, but i back up first.

like Warren Buffet said lor, have to control urge, let me cover other untouched regions first biggrin.gif initially i wanted reits fund actually, deng i want alot of things la.. lol
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post Jan 20 2015, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 20 2015, 09:20 PM)
OFF topic.....just a note:
For years I had been paying my streamyx bill using auto pay by cc. just last month till now it stopped transaction. My streamyx bill show no payment made while my cc statement shows no charges.
Just noticed my latest Streamyx statement that I had 2 months non payment....just when to ATM to do payment....fyi: my cc had been paid promptly.......so check your streamyx bill frequently...else kena potong also don't know why.
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So did you check on ur cc? It happens, mine bcoz cc expired

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