I'm talking based on green terrain
Can you get a unit below 500k??

you see, buy with gf is this? then he hope solo buy props in the inflated market? really do not address the issue right? the affordability has long breach 1 person loanable amount, they not harping for 2?

if Malaysia are made of so many person capable of taking loan, we no are high income nation already... high debt nation is...

it is you BBB or what? next year economy good or not? how hard to asnwer? whether prop market and existing vacant units will be taken?

like last year, as expected Amaya never made it to 50% at least occupancy, it will be the same or worse by end of 2015... that is hard 2 years loan servicing, given certain forumers special units even worse... the shop apartments down there around 30+ are empty without business for 1 year , not even open justco area, 500 meter to velocity sunway the award winning developers

you have yet lar...

So after all, all you want is to prove that the prop market is not as good as it is and showing lethargic performance? Or you are trying to educate all flippers here and sending warm reminder to all genuine buyer like myself? I am confuse with your objective.

flippers no need to educate, they are the ones most aware in the list about this, and can further precisely to sell off their props once holding to certain years... all these are observation and learn from them

all that we wanted is potential buyers to see these of their intention and brainwashing to accept the inflated price being market price..

like it not? the drop in transaction in new launch and sub sales are signifying ppl are either cannot afford due to inflation and etc or wait and see, since it a no brainer even a 26 year old knows property price will soar like the BBB claimed, cant the other potential buyers see it? buy new launch wait vp sure increase 200k, why is the holding back then?

the supplies major are to target youngster like you, new home seeker and young and new concept... glass, swimming pools ( in fact, you practically need to know about the reality, the swimming pool badminton court are for all, not you alone), they are waiting and educating ppl to believe that prop market is still on the soar, look at gov interventions and banks intervention they sounded to you like on BBB mode? some youngster who are perfectly caught for new and young concept is krandun...studio , damm proud of it..

u try ask BBB to buy one inflated studio with krandun price, see got feel proud or not?

everything has a price, easiest hurdle is to ask the investors to consider their selling price and sell it inflated price back to them, they surely wave middle finger to you , BBB packs say like champion young should buy within own means and etc... that only applies to other youngster not their own children, that is stupid...

and one more, if GST is another platform to increase prop price higher, this practically means they flippers are going to call higher price and profit more right? you really think they worry you pay more now by buying later? you buy later pay more , they profit more leh..

they no go and sapu new launch before GST meh? can flip 1 million like lakeville, you vista, green residence, Le Yuan? they have an expectation that their whatever invested product should be at least X+200k formula at least

see say like Jliew midfields 2, bought 500k... flip 200k at least to 700k, 3 roomer 1000sq..u ask him back wanan buy or not? say vp 2014 cant sell they factor cost in and push from 700k to 750k and further, at 700k cant sell, at 750k sell better?

game is simple, more you service the prop tags more 500k, sure to burn sumore highrise... the past years of boom are due the fact the loan installments and prop price within category of 200k -350k,.. where it falls within the optimum rental proceeds i.e 13k to below 2k..more than 2k still rent meh buy lor.. but some areas like PV can be disregarded, like 3k those areas are student they sardine like 6-7 ppl one unit one room 2 ppl..these ppl of course yat 7 say no bubble ... lin peh osos know

His objective is to lie to himself over and over again to make himself feel good. He knows he is screwed but dont want to admit it.

You have yet lar....
I already have plenty in my portfolio

Boss..... I didn't manage to list down all woh......

Firstly..... I listed it only from few mths back onwards..... Much earlier didn't thought of listing it....... Thus let it go...... Let it go.......

Secondly...... Some funny things he post too lengthy...... I also let it go...... Let it go.......

Thirdly....... Some needs explanation to understand if ppl hav not follow the conversation...... I also let it go...... Let it go.......

bro, i dont 1 to proud with my studio but u keep mentioned about that i cant help wor.

no demand will not have any price la, the price now is at least 10% above my purchase during feb'14, i guess that is more than enough to explain right?

I dont set a rule for myself must bought house worth million when i can qualified and repay the monthly repayment wor.. studio only ma, u also day night want to look me so up meh?

This post has been edited by kradun: Dec 28 2014, 10:35 PM

Bear Sifu says 1+1=1.1

1+1 = oOo

Simple question to u u hav been running away from it mah...... Only reflects that these thoughts u hav hav been with u for yrs....... Definitely not new........

Why u didn't buy 3-5 yrs back if u are in your 30s or 40s??

err whatever...

Hi bear bear kor, I'm back!!!

And I thought what you had in your sleeve...and I thought from which part Malaysia property price higher than Singapore, HK..

"Winter" is coming...better fast fast hide in your cave with your piling up goods, bear bear kor..

If this forum is flooded with more flippers as you claimed, so be it. If flippers are trying to defend their standpoints, so be it. You ain't going to gain anything from them since you should already know how to play in this game.

Secondly, if the market is full of inflated properties, the longer you wait, the more you need to pay as mentioned by your goodself. From era to era there are always flippers. Just that those days flippers are more loaded compared to now as a result of DIBS and low DP and flip after construction. That's why I said earlier, those who swim in naked shall revealed themselves in 2016-2018 where the last phase of DIBS prop are completed. However, you should not forget about the prop investor club who buy in bulk from developer and in return, the discount given by developer is already a twisted DIBS. Meaning to say that, nothing much you can do as a genuine buyer. Is either you get f***ed now by few or get gang bang by more in future.

2016-2018 is also crucial because of the GE, 2020 vision and completion of LRT/MRT projects. A lot of uncertainties and you must not forget about the tired bullish KLCI in the past 7 years. The norm is every 10 years a crush but foresee that it will come earlier in next round due to currency war and slump in oil price.

Even if there is a crush in prop market due to bearish stock market performance (which is very likely to happen soon), those flippers who feel the heat will have to let go their unit faster. When that is happening, the price of the prop won't go down much as you wish. We are not a country doing QE because Bolehland is not as influential as USA or Japan hence things will get worse if we are doing QE. Cheaper RM will leads to poorer export and increase in cost of import. More foreigners will flock in to grab our land. Just like what China is doing on other countries like USA, British. When that happened, do you think we are still able to buy a cheap prop? And when there is a crush meaning many are out of job. If you have cash I believe you will also hold it unless your have plenty. From this flood disaster our gonlanment not even dare to declare darurat with the given excuse of takut the insurance buyers are unable to claim their insurance from the insurance companies. A total crap because the gonlanment ain't have enough money to give out. Majority of the victims are believed without flood insurance and this flood is unexpected.

After GST, your miscellaneous fees i.e. legal fees will be taxable but still within your reach. I think your strategy is to go for subsale hence GST or not are not really your concern because it is more applicable on new launch. However, to me it is not so right when you are financially ready but still waiting for market to crush or bubble to burst in order for you to grab the "cheapest" prop.

None of us can predict when the bubble is going to burst but for sure the prop market is softening and leave a better room for bargain. Simply because supply > demand. That's it. And things won't be right when your next door uncle aunty also telling you the prop market is doing good. That means the doom day is near.

I might be wrong and humble to take any comment.

This post has been edited by JasonW13: Dec 28 2014, 10:57 PM

2008 recession mah , wait price drop futher. Every years ddd come with same argument

Affordability issue, I assume.....

[quote=JasonW13,Dec 28 2014, 10:46 PM]
If this forum is flooded with more flippers as you claimed, so be it. If flippers are trying to defend their standpoints, so be it. You ain't going to gain anything from them since you should already know how to play in this game.

oh you are now a flipper revealed? flippers are more in this forum is still "if" look the property talk section all owners talking and observing price meh? I dun understand, if there are ppl talking about bubble this is right should be the right channel just in case you have forgotten that you are in bubble talk no in property increase talk, this piece of advise should go the the flippers isn't?

Secondly, if the market is full of inflated properties, the longer you wait, the more you need to pay as mentioned by your goodself. From era to era there are always flippers. Just that those days flippers are more loaded compared to now as a result of DIBS and low DP and flip after construction. That's why I said earlier, those who swim in naked shall revealed themselves in 2016-2018 where the last phase of DIBS prop are completed. However, you should not forget about the prop investor club who buy in bulk from developer and in return, the discount given by developer is already a twisted DIBS. Meaning to say that, nothing much you can do as a genuine buyer. Is either you get f***ed now by few or get gang bang by more in future.

ceh like this need you come pull the show meh? those are the ones the flippers says one... hello by what the flippers said, any time grab new properties and wait can get 30-40% increase already maa..o0o

u confirm flipper mentality, bigger organisation like investment clubs are like developers... they are not there to hold properties and not selling it, they need money to roll.. you bang and f***ed up theory is only provided property price keep surging with demands along side to cater lar kid... no demand u sendiri hao lian increase got kam lan use, hello flippers/investors clubs put in more to earn more money not to put money and more to cost of holding and hope to sell at non demand able prices , wake up lar... the mass supplies are targetting who? really 26 years old flipper wanna be wasted my time

2016-2018 is also crucial because of the GE, 2020 vision and completion of LRT/MRT projects. A lot of uncertainties and you must not forget about the tired bullish KLCI in the past 7 years. The norm is every 10 years a crush but foresee that it will come earlier in next round due to currency war and slump in oil price.

uncertainties sway benefit of doubt to property being BBB? mana you graduate?

Even if there is a crush in prop market due to bearish stock market performance (which is very likely to happen soon), those flippers who feel the heat will have to let go their unit faster. When that is happening, the price of the prop won't go down much as you wish. We are not a country doing QE because Bolehland is not as influential as USA or Japan hence things will get worse if we are doing QE. Cheaper RM will leads to poorer export and increase in cost of import. More foreigners will flock in to grab our land. Just like what China is doing on other countries like USA, British. When that happened, do you think we are still able to buy a cheap prop? Our gonlanment not even dare to declare darurat with the given excuse of takut the insurance buyers are unable to claim their insurance from the insurance companies. A total crap because the gonlanment ain't have enough money to give out. Majority of the victims are believed without flood insurance and this flood is unexpected.

preety amazed, property can only go up? and flippers can hold eternity? o0o pain listening leh.. you are the 1st home buyers as claimed but the way it looks and seems more in flippers and property confirm naik type ... we crashed before in bkt beruntung still 20k per unit or even less... fail investors in KV areas will share their failure meh?

After GST, your miscellaneous fees i.e. legal fees will be taxable but still within your reach. I think your strategy is to go for subsale hence GST or not are not really your concern because it is more applicable on new launch. However, to me it is not so right when you are financially ready but still waiting for market to crush or bubble to burst in order for you to grab the "cheapest" prop.

wah lan then buy the inflated market kam lan? 4 more months subsales market pool of buyers shrinks not drop then wait what? you go and buy one inflated prop now and show proof so I can check you talk o0o or not.. talk one pattern, buy another flipper, BBB here never even touch 600k high-rise this year.. dead market . typical flippers advise, big turn around, accept inflated price and buy?

None of us can predict when the bubble is going to burst but for sure the prop market is softening and leave a better room for bargain. Simply because supply > demand. That's it. And things won't be right when your next door uncle aunty also telling you the prop market is doing good. That means the doom day is near.

first of all I will wave o0o o0o o0o to you first, whole statement contradicts whole things you spouted... up there you say one will defiantely get screwed just will get banged if wait longer, this does not mean property price ill only go up? when you predict confirm go up now you say it is uncertain? nah o0o, the factors are pushing downwards, that is waht I based on, you are the one predicing it will only go up.. see the pain o0o or not? talk cock flippers same BBB pack lapsap

and you are damm fking wrong, talk whole world come back square one accept inflated prop , buyer early or get screwed or banged later.. then spout it is uncertain to predict but prop price going up is sure... so sure buy one unit of 700k condo new launch to see and proof.. talk cock o0o

WASTING MY TIME, I charge in hours o0o

This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Dec 28 2014, 11:09 PM

lapsap agent, ur work does not qualify 2%, 0.5 also too much already go tell all other agents