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 Proton PrevĂ© V22, Venturing into 3rd anniversary!

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SportyHandling
post Apr 3 2015, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(xphr3ak @ Apr 3 2015, 08:17 AM)
Day 3 : Grinding noise came out.. sounds like "wooooo....woooooooo....woooooo".
Its CVT noise, right? Normal characteristic for  Preve?

Should we take out the key fob or just leave it there after engine started?
What is the correct way?
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Whistling sound may be a more appropriate term to describe the CVT's wooooo wooooo sound. WHen you mentioned grinding sound, it's more to the sound of a bunch of metal plates grinding or rubbing against each other in an "unbroken" Ford Focus.

The key should be left in the key fob. I think that was mentioned in the user manual.
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post Apr 3 2015, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(diadokmai @ Apr 3 2015, 08:28 AM)
my car sometimes engine stop when reversing too. maybe because of the cold start?
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Throughout my 20+ years driving experience all my new cars do not have this "engine automatically shutting down" syndrome at all, either during startup from cold or reversing. Not even the Proton Waja that i have driven for 12 years. I only experience the engine automatically shutting down when restarting the engine with the Proton Waja when it was about 10 years old ie. an old car.
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post Apr 7 2015, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(vikneswaranc_17 @ Apr 7 2015, 10:18 AM)
Top speed wise - Personally I have done more than 225KM/H with more coming but had to brake because oncoming toll booth(Highly not safe, just for the sake of testing)
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Is your car modified in that you can achieve close to 230km/h?

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post Apr 7 2015, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(vikneswaranc_17 @ Apr 7 2015, 01:58 PM)
Nope.. Totally stock.. Near empty fuel tank and German Sausage done.. Only that..
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Not too sure what is German sausage. But it is a good revelation that the Preve Turbo is capable of 225km/h with a bit more reserve in hitting a higher top speed. Just a bit surprised on the potential of the car as in my experience the car needs quite a bit of time ie. struggling when accelerating from 170km/h to 200km/h.

I guess the road would be slightly downhill for the car to be able to hit that kind of speed.
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post Apr 7 2015, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(vikneswaranc_17 @ Apr 7 2015, 02:09 PM)
It might be a slight downhill run.. PLUS Rawang to Tanjung Malim.. German Sausage is tying the intercooler hose (In and Out) with cable ties.. Sure you know or heard about that..
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Okay thanks for the information. No idea what is German sausage as I do not have a passion or interest in modifications.
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post Apr 7 2015, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(vikneswaranc_17 @ Apr 7 2015, 02:32 PM)
Lol.. Basically, due to the pressure, the hose can expand, thus making it not very efficient in delivering the proper boost.. That is why a usually the change the hose to stainless steel (cant expand or contract as the rubber hose).. I will upload a picture later on..
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Is it really due to the expansion of the original rubber hose, or the aftermarket stainless steel hose has a smaller diameter than the original hose which caused the pressure to increase when whatever gas or liquid flows through it?
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post Apr 11 2015, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(vikneswaranc_17 @ Apr 9 2015, 04:22 PM)
Thats very weird for Maibee.. lol.. I have tried 160-180 all the way from Ipoh to Tanjung Malim exit, didnt have the gearbox warning indication. Heavy usage, hot weather may be the cause too.. (I did that early morning, Simpang Pulai to Tanjung Malim exit nearly 30-40 mins, dont try that, highly dangerous)
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After Simpang Pulai, there is a steep stretch of road up a hill and then downhill with twisty bends. On this stretch of road the speed limit is down from 110km/h to 90km/h, large heavy trucks usually crawling like a snail on the left lane. Faster cars still can do 110km/h but along the twisty bend near the top of the hill it's quite a task to drive up to 160km/h along this stretch. Perhaps after this stretch then high-speed cruising is feasible.
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post Apr 13 2015, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Apr 11 2015, 08:18 PM)
The area with 90 km/h is the Gua Tempurung area. That is an accident prone area, whether day or night. from motorcycles to cars to busses & lorries.
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Yes, Gua Tempurung area. Quite a number of accidents here throughout the years. More than 10 years ago, heard about a family who just sent their child off to the airport for studies overseas perished when their vehicle lost control and crashed. Not too sure about the recent accidents.
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post Apr 13 2015, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Apr 13 2015, 11:04 AM)
Turbo starts operation at idle. Turbo only able to give max boost (max performance) from 2000 - 4000 RPM. It does not matter what km/h, only what RPM.

If they pour all the oil, that's fine. About the performance, 1,000 km on the odo is till new. Yes, you can start whacking the car, but the performance will come as you put in more km in the car.


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From the speedometer, it is obvious that the acceleration is uniform up to about 165km/h, in which it is struggling to climb to 170km/h. The speed stays at 170km/h for a while as I presume the driver released the pedal a bit which resulted in a drop in rpm, before stepping on the pedal to enable the speed to climb from 170km/h to 200km/h until hitting 210km/h.

The video above further reconfirms on my observation that the Preve Turbo's acceleration is good up to about 160km/h in which it struggles to hit higher speed after that, 160-170km/h being the struggling point.

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post Apr 13 2015, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Apr 13 2015, 12:42 PM)
no.. bodykit just attached on body.. nothing related to wiring or warranty related..
ok for 4l EO pour in.. hmm turbo kick in 2k rpm.. you can feel it when rpm nearly to 2k.. new car, your engine still new.. dont over force it.. full pedal will help u up to 190km/h.. i dunno how others may go till 210/220km/h.. but i advise not to do so.. preve feel floating after 160km/h.. better stay 150km/h and below.. some said they didnt feel floating at all.. impossible..

be safe.. turbo in preve is just trying to improve fuel efficiency only.. good if u cruise at 90~120km/h..
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I have mentioned before above 170km/h or close to 200km/h, the sound of the engine is so loud that it feels like it's going to explode or something. Though it is capable of breaching 200km/h for sure, but the feeling of reaching those speeds isn't really nice due to the sound from the engine and the unstable ride.

The floaty feeling of unstable ride is due to the suspension of the car which is tuned that way. The suspension is on the firmer side of things. It not only feels floaty at high speed cruising but when going over speed bumps at low speed, the stiffness of the suspension/springs also causes the car to be a bit bumpy ie. not so comfortable.

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post Apr 17 2015, 09:07 PM

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It is confirmed that Petronas fuel is causing knocking sound from the engine on my Preve Turbo with a slight loss in power.

I have been using Caltex throughout the whole year now, occasionally Shell if I happen to run out of fuel and Caltex station is not nearby. No knocking sound and acceleration power is good. Just earlier this week the car was running out of fuel and I decided to give Petronas a try although I knew I had bad experience before and vowed never to use Petronas Primax again. But somehow I wanted to test if it's really the fuel. At first, there seemed to be no difference. But after half tank, I began to notice the knocking sound coupled by a slight loss of acceleration power. The engine also sounded a bit rough, not as smooth.

Did any of you guys use Petronas Primax, especially Preve Turbo owners. I would like to know your experience.

After having this repeated experience, I will surely ban Petronas for good now. My other car, the Ford Focus does not seem to have problem with Petronas (no engine knocking sound) but I chose to use Caltex for all my cars.
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post Apr 17 2015, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Apr 17 2015, 09:22 PM)
I would love to be more patriotic to support Petronas, but it's as just you said, the loss of acceleration power is noticeable. I've been using BHP ever since I'd done testing different fuel, good balance between power and mileage.
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I used to choose using between BHP or Caltex since both also have their own petrol cards which can score points. But after a while I chose Caltex as BHP stations are not at strategic locations on my everyday routes. There are also not may Caltex stations around but at least there are more of these stations on the roads that I travel. Both are equally good I think. Can really feel the power and smoothness with Caltex.

Similarly would like to use Petronas as their stations are almost everywhere, so convenient. But time after time had again proven that their fuel does not go well with certain cars. I suspect the knocking sound from the engine is due to the loss in power or the fuel not burning properly or something. Due to the weak power, the engine is producing this knocking sound when the car is struggling to accelerate.
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post Apr 19 2015, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Apr 18 2015, 05:39 PM)
No difference for me. I've tried 4 straight full tanks of BHP, then revert back to Petronas. No difference whether in acceleration or FC.
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No engine knocking or rough acceleration sound with Petronas? Fuel consumption with different fuels is difficult to gauge due to varying driving patterns and traffic conditions, though I was not referring to fuel consumption. More to the performance of the fuels.
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post Apr 19 2015, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Apr 19 2015, 09:49 PM)
Nope. Both RON95, from Ampang to Shah Alam and back, using Federal Highway. My route passes both BHP stations in Ampang and Federal Highway. That's why I tested BHP. I'd like to see whether using Euro 4 petrol (BHP) would give noticeable difference for me. Looks like there's no difference for me.
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Ok thanks for the information. Looks like we do not share the same experience with Petronas fuel.
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post Apr 19 2015, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Apr 19 2015, 10:05 PM)
Perhaps our driving style is different. Mine does not push the car as much.
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That may be a possibility. But still, even in moderate acceleration especially when the road is slightly uphill, the engine knocking sound will come up, coupled with rough sound during acceleration, with Petronas fuel. With Caltex, BHP and Shell, no such experience. Maybe my car had been "broken in" with occasional hard acceleration, hence the showing of some of these symptoms with Petronas fuel being unfavourable.
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post Apr 20 2015, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Apr 19 2015, 10:59 PM)
My car will be 3 years this June. I've already done 71,000 km on my car. Yesterday I traveled through Karak Highway towards KL. There were a few steep climbs with grades of 10%. My car accelerated from Bentong toll plaza to 90 km/h while climbing and maintained that speed effortlessly. There were 2 adults and 1 child in the car. There was no knocking or pinging, no interruption to the acceleration.

Perhaps my car is much older therefore the difference in petrol is not felt? Or the ECU has tuned itself? I'm not sure, but what I am sure, it makes no difference for me. When I fill the petrol, I always fill until the first click and never topping off. Thus the methodology is consistent.
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When I mentioned "broken in" I was referring to the car being driven at high speeds or high RPMs, not so much about mileage. At 71,000km, the mileage on your car is significantly higher than mine at about 30,000km+. Perhaps you don't drive at high speeds too often or at all keeping your speed to below 110km/h, or the needle on your RPM meter did not go past 4,000 before?

My car already had the engine knocking sound during the early stages in the 1st year of ownership.
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post Apr 20 2015, 02:01 PM

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For those who are using Petronas fuel on the Preve Turbo, do you hear the engine knocking when the car is accelerating, particularly if going up a slightly inclined slope? Try to hear some clicking sound from the engine when the car is accelerating. The sound is not very loud, but it should be noticeable.


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post Apr 21 2015, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Apr 20 2015, 02:08 PM)
so far been driving RON97 petronas on My Preve Turbo
i didnt notice any knocking@clicking throughout my driving

the only time i hear those things is when im braking.(helicopter sound hmm.gif  hmm.gif )
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Okay thanks for the information. I have not tried RON97 on the Preve Turbo before, only RON95. Helicopter sound with the brakes will only be heard during hard braking. Normal braking there won't be any sound.
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post Apr 21 2015, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Apr 21 2015, 12:52 AM)
Mine has slight knocking with every RON 95 fuel.
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Interesting. I just had some slight knocking sound from the engine even though I had pumped Caltex since it had mixed with the previously pumped Petronas. After 1 or 2 more tanks with Caltex(after all Petronas fuel is fully utilized), I will monitor again. With my Preve Turbo, there is no engine knocking with Caltex fuel. Perhaps very little knocking even if it comes up especially when the car is accelerating up an inclined slope where more effort is needed for acceleration. But with Petronas fuel, the engine knocking sound is quite prominent. Although soft you can easily hear the knocking/ticking sound from the engine in the background. RON95.
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post Apr 21 2015, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Apr 20 2015, 03:54 PM)
I have sped to 210 km/h on the meter before. But, yes 99% of the time I never go beyond 4,000 RPM. In most driving situations I only needed to rev to 3,500 RPM to get enough acceleration for overtaking etc.
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Wise choice not to do hard acceleration with the car (>4000 RPM) as the sound from the Campro engine is unpleasant with any hard acceleration RPMs >4000 ~ 5000 +. Sometimes if there is a need for quick acceleration, there is a tendency to step hard on the pedal thus driving up the RPMs, though in actual fact the acceleration may not be quicker than acceleration in lower RPMs ie. 2000-4000 RPM which I understand is the ideal RPM range where the highest torque is available.

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