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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V148, Shale Oil! Bear or bull?

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post Dec 16 2014, 04:43 PM

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Nikkei jalan opposite of Shanghai index?
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post Dec 16 2014, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 16 2014, 04:36 PM)
someone told that Lower MYR is good for malaysia. stock market drop good for buying cheap & for long term  shakehead.gif
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If you got a lot of cash to catch the falling knife, then I think its good. Kekeke..
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post Dec 16 2014, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 16 2014, 04:48 PM)
If you got a lot of cash to catch the falling knife, then I think its good. Kekeke..
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well, if u ask me. I just watch the show for now & eat popcorn sideline sweat.gif
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post Dec 16 2014, 05:01 PM

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Hmm all negative news especially international data chinese pmi etc.
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post Dec 16 2014, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 16 2014, 04:52 PM)
well, if u ask me. I just watch the show for now & eat popcorn sideline  sweat.gif
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Yeah, munching now.

QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Dec 16 2014, 05:01 PM)
Hmm all negative news especially international data chinese pmi etc.
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At this time, all company will try to come out with negative data to hide their incompetence under the pretense of economic downturn lol...

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post Dec 16 2014, 05:18 PM

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crude usd 54.. later US open, become 50 de la
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post Dec 16 2014, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 16 2014, 05:18 PM)
crude usd 54.. later US open, become 50 de la
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Yeah looks like it
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post Dec 16 2014, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 16 2014, 06:18 PM)
crude usd 54.. later US open, become 50 de la
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think base shd be 40
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buying into energy is still good.. the world still needs oil, electricity. How can energy go bust?

Buy into oil. This is the cheapest you will get it for awhile...


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QUOTE(the99percent1 @ Dec 16 2014, 05:47 PM)
buying into energy is still good.. the world still needs oil, electricity. How can energy go bust?

Buy into oil. This is the cheapest you will get it for awhile...
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buy into oil commodity or oil stock?


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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 16 2014, 05:49 PM)
buy into oil commodity or oil stock?
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commodity and energy companies stock.
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post Dec 16 2014, 05:50 PM

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u try and open an account to trade future..

buy crude oil future for say.. june 2015 la (long enuf to see oil rebound i think)

Then hold it and see.. then u will rasa rasa a bit biggrin.gif
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post Dec 16 2014, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 16 2014, 05:50 PM)
u try and open an account to trade future..

buy crude oil future for say.. june 2015 la (long enuf to see oil rebound i think)

Then hold it and see.. then u will rasa rasa a bit biggrin.gif
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Apa barang goreng pun hangus punya...

Steel, oil, property...

Ini semua permainan orang kaya... if they dont play these and temp the greedy people, then they wont make huge money...
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post Dec 16 2014, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 16 2014, 05:18 PM)
crude usd 54.. later US open, become 50 de la
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Can we expect petrol to drop from RM2.26 to maybe RM2.20 next mth ?
Also any chance AirAsia will drop their fuel surcharge ?

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post Dec 16 2014, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(the99percent1 @ Dec 16 2014, 02:48 PM)
lol at that point, I'll invest my entire lifesavings in shares... impossible 1000. That would be a 20 year low..
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20 year low is in 1997-98 below 300.
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post Dec 16 2014, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(the99percent1 @ Dec 16 2014, 05:47 PM)
buying into energy is still good.. the world still needs oil, electricity. How can energy go bust?

Buy into oil. This is the cheapest you will get it for awhile...
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Energy won't go burst, but company with high debt and over commit can... whistling.gif
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post Dec 16 2014, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 16 2014, 05:50 PM)
u try and open an account to trade future..

buy crude oil future for say.. june 2015 la (long enuf to see oil rebound i think)

Then hold it and see.. then u will rasa rasa a bit biggrin.gif
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Provided have enough spare cash for margin call first before seeing rebound. whistling.gif biggrin.gif

A bear run could easily mean a spell of period of a year up to few years sometimes.
Once trend reverse, be it bull or bear generally take sometimes to find its peak or bottom.
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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ Dec 16 2014, 04:13 PM)
If you recall the 1997 crisis, it started with the speculative attack on the MYR. This time it is also the depreciation of the MYR. If oil price keeps falling, we will run into a twin deficit as early as the first qtr 2015. It means that the MYR will depreciate further. This time it is not expected to have a v-shape recovery as the is no more QE. Interest rates are expected to rise in order to cap the MYR from dropping. This is of course bad for the market.
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The difference between now and 97

Malaysia doesn't start with massive trade and current account deficit, whereby prior 97 unfold, Malaysia has twin deficit and low foreign currency reserves.
Now with USD120 billion foreign currency reserves (97 less than USD30 bil), and still not yet twin deficit situation provide plenty of cushion. Also lesser foreign denominated currency bond/loan as compared.

At the moment, there is no need to increase the interest rate to stem the RM dropping, as most currencies around are dropping against USD across, not solely RM.

Whilst in 97, the currency plunge was on solely a few crisis hit countries (high current account deficit + high foreign debt + low foreign currency reserves to fund them).

So it is not "attack" solely on RM, whilst 97 was.

In fact, China did cut interest rate, while Thailand was rumour to be as well, as well as there may be a cut from RBA as well in near future.

So situation is a lot different with 97.
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post Dec 16 2014, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Dec 16 2014, 07:45 PM)
Can we expect petrol to drop from RM2.26 to maybe RM2.20 next mth ?
Also any chance AirAsia will drop their fuel surcharge ?
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i guess it would be around RM2
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post Dec 16 2014, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 16 2014, 03:57 PM)
Bone gor, I add stakes in nicorp 9c...hehe
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