Nikkei jalan opposite of Shanghai index?
STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V148, Shale Oil! Bear or bull?
STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V148, Shale Oil! Bear or bull?
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Dec 16 2014, 04:43 PM
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Nikkei jalan opposite of Shanghai index?
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Dec 16 2014, 04:48 PM
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Dec 16 2014, 04:52 PM
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Dec 16 2014, 05:01 PM
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Hmm all negative news especially international data chinese pmi etc.
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Dec 16 2014, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 16 2014, 04:52 PM) Yeah, munching now.QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Dec 16 2014, 05:01 PM) At this time, all company will try to come out with negative data to hide their incompetence under the pretense of economic downturn lol... |
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Dec 16 2014, 05:18 PM
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crude usd 54.. later US open, become 50 de la
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Dec 16 2014, 05:33 PM
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Dec 16 2014, 05:44 PM
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Dec 16 2014, 05:47 PM
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buying into energy is still good.. the world still needs oil, electricity. How can energy go bust?
Buy into oil. This is the cheapest you will get it for awhile... |
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Dec 16 2014, 05:49 PM
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Dec 16 2014, 05:49 PM
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Dec 16 2014, 05:50 PM
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u try and open an account to trade future..
buy crude oil future for say.. june 2015 la (long enuf to see oil rebound i think) Then hold it and see.. then u will rasa rasa a bit |
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Dec 16 2014, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 16 2014, 05:50 PM) u try and open an account to trade future.. Apa barang goreng pun hangus punya...buy crude oil future for say.. june 2015 la (long enuf to see oil rebound i think) Then hold it and see.. then u will rasa rasa a bit Steel, oil, property... Ini semua permainan orang kaya... if they dont play these and temp the greedy people, then they wont make huge money... |
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Dec 16 2014, 07:45 PM
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Dec 16 2014, 08:15 PM
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Dec 16 2014, 09:00 PM
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Dec 16 2014, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 16 2014, 05:50 PM) u try and open an account to trade future.. Provided have enough spare cash for margin call first before seeing rebound. buy crude oil future for say.. june 2015 la (long enuf to see oil rebound i think) Then hold it and see.. then u will rasa rasa a bit A bear run could easily mean a spell of period of a year up to few years sometimes. Once trend reverse, be it bull or bear generally take sometimes to find its peak or bottom. |
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Dec 16 2014, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ Dec 16 2014, 04:13 PM) If you recall the 1997 crisis, it started with the speculative attack on the MYR. This time it is also the depreciation of the MYR. If oil price keeps falling, we will run into a twin deficit as early as the first qtr 2015. It means that the MYR will depreciate further. This time it is not expected to have a v-shape recovery as the is no more QE. Interest rates are expected to rise in order to cap the MYR from dropping. This is of course bad for the market. The difference between now and 97Malaysia doesn't start with massive trade and current account deficit, whereby prior 97 unfold, Malaysia has twin deficit and low foreign currency reserves. Now with USD120 billion foreign currency reserves (97 less than USD30 bil), and still not yet twin deficit situation provide plenty of cushion. Also lesser foreign denominated currency bond/loan as compared. At the moment, there is no need to increase the interest rate to stem the RM dropping, as most currencies around are dropping against USD across, not solely RM. Whilst in 97, the currency plunge was on solely a few crisis hit countries (high current account deficit + high foreign debt + low foreign currency reserves to fund them). So it is not "attack" solely on RM, whilst 97 was. In fact, China did cut interest rate, while Thailand was rumour to be as well, as well as there may be a cut from RBA as well in near future. So situation is a lot different with 97. |
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Dec 16 2014, 09:27 PM
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Dec 16 2014, 09:37 PM
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