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post Nov 25 2015, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(whys80 @ Nov 24 2015, 02:50 PM)
Hi all,

I received mortgage top-up loan offer for 50K+ 3K (MRTA).

Question:-

1) What is estimated amount for Legal Fee+ Stamp Duty? Only Loan agreement is needed right?
2) Estimated Valuation Fee
3) Any others fee?
3) When i suppose to pay for above fees? Can i make the payment after receive full release of loan?

Thanks in advance.
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1) For Rm50k loan top up, the fees for (valuation, stamp duty and legal fees) would be around RM 3860.9. Only loan side of document will be sign as there isn't any transferring of property but the loan itself.

2) Valuation will be around RM644

3) Fees will be legal loan, stamp duty loan and valuation. Other fees will be the miscellaneous of the legal charges (disbursement charges, gst.. etc)

4) Before the loan release, if you don't pay for the fees, you won't even receive the disbursement of the loan.
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post Nov 25 2015, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(ngph988 @ Nov 24 2015, 10:15 PM)
May I know what is special attention account, and what if my CCRIS shows special attention account what should I do?
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1. Special attention account is cater for people who unable to pay off their debt and consult AKPK. When you consult this special services, it means your debt is out of control and you are unable to pay it off or continue with the installment. Hence, the debt that AKPK help you reconstruct will be listed in your ccris whereby, located at special attention account.

This is not a serious offence though, you won't go into jail. Anyway, with this special attention account listed, no bank will finance you mortgage loan. The logic behind is, if you are unable to pay off your current default debt, what makes you think you are able to pay off your future mortgage loan?.

2. The only way to deal with this is you settle off the debt A.S.A.P, before you apply any loan in the future. After you had settle the default, your status will be remove straightaway (or grace period of 7days)
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QUOTE(dradormien @ Nov 24 2015, 10:22 PM)
Need to ask opinion, not sure either in correct place or not. Recently, my grandmother give me one semi D house as present, fully paid. Is there any way that i can refinance it? At the same time I have one flat, balance around 2k, it is possible to refinance? Semi-D call around 500k , flat around 200K (source:mudah.my). Many Thanks!
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Dear Dradormien,

1. firstly, congratulation that you receive a RM500K semi D as present! Before we proceed any further, may I know more in depth regarding your situation?

Is the property under your name? If it is yes, you can refinance anytime.

If the property isn't under your name, you would required different method to refinance the property, do read along below.

2. You can do a 3rd party borrowing to refinance your property cash out. By using your name as a sole borrower and the owner as the chargor to refinance cash out the property. But only one bank in the market allow such practice, hence your rate are dependent on this bank.

Or

3. If the property is under your father or any one of your family members, you can do a transfer with love and affection transferring the ownership of the property. As the property is unencumbered(Paid all loan off), you could consult a lawyer to facilitate this process.
After the transferring of property ownership is done, solely under your name, you can refinance with ease with any bank with the best rate.
But this method cost more as you pay more on the legal fees and stamp duty for (transferring of ownership + refinance)
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QUOTE(navygreen @ Nov 24 2015, 11:51 PM)
Hi,

I have a more generic question here.

I'm Malaysian working overseas, residency status also overseas. If I read this thread correctly, banks will determine the loan applicant's debt/commitment profile when assessing the application.

How will that apply to me? I have EPF contribution, but zero debt, no credit card/student debt/rather low savings in Malaysia. Can my financial background overseas be used to support my application?

I'm not applying to any banks yet. Just doing my research right now before deciding on investment strategy there.. smile.gif smile.gif
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Dear,

1. one question, are you still stated as MALAYSIAN and do you still have Malaysia's IC?
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post Nov 25 2015, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(skyvampire @ Nov 25 2015, 05:13 AM)
1. Is EPF compulsory for a business owner to get loan?
2. Do bank accept Life insurance as collateral as supporting document?
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1. As business owner, EPF is not a compulsory. For business owner, few things bank will take into consideration (Director fees, company bank statement 6 months, Tax B/BE form)

2. Nope, insurance is out of mortgage picture. Unrelated.
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QUOTE(whys80 @ Nov 25 2015, 09:59 AM)
Hi, thanks for your info, appreciated.
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No problem. This thread is a sharing platform
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QUOTE(lorrydriverrocks @ Nov 25 2015, 03:06 PM)
Hi Madgeniusfigo,

Thanks so much, appreciate it  biggrin.gif
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Dear Lorry,
No problem. This thread is a sharing platform
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QUOTE(availyboy @ Nov 26 2015, 10:42 AM)
Dear Madgeniusfigo,

That is very informative, because we're planning to either one shot settle all or just keep on paying like normal.

Cheers!

Thank You,
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Dear Availyboy,

1. If you settle the property in one shot, definitely it will save you alot on the interest accrued throughout compounding. But, If you settled all at once, all your cash will stuck in the bricks itself. When you need the cash for emergency, you would need to either sell your house or cash out, this will cost you lots of time and money too. The best practice is, credit your extra cash into the capital account, whereby your interest will be reduced based on the balance outstanding.
So, you will still have your emergency fund anytime you need it and you are able to reduce the interest of your mortgage.


2. Perspective of investor, they would drag as long as possible.

3. Perspective of house owner stays, it would be better to settle off all the debt and live peacefully without debt.
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post Nov 26 2015, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(dradormien @ Nov 26 2015, 12:21 AM)
Thanks for thorough explanation!
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Dear Dradormien,

No sweat. Important is, this can help you.
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post Nov 29 2015, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(skyvampire @ Nov 28 2015, 08:14 PM)
Thank you
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No sweat! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ Nov 27 2015, 01:07 PM)
How is the calculation of legal fees involved for below if:
House value=RM400k
S&P amount=RM200k
Bank Loan amount=RM200k(for S&P) +RM200k(for refinance)
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Yes, legal fees, stamp duty fees and valuation are calculated with tiers.


1.Legal Loan:

<=Rm150k = 1%
<=1million = 0.7%
<= 3million = 0.6%


2. Stamp duty loan

0.5% on total loan amount

3. Valuation fees

100k = 0.25%
<=2million = 0.2%
<=7mil =1/6%


This are the tiers payment, it is the bottom net price you have to pay, there is lots of other cost (gov tax, strata transfer ownership fees, S&P preparation fees,
professional fees, etc etc)


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Purchasing higher property prices, your LVS fees will follow accordingly.


But anyway, first time home buyer you will get
1) 50% discount on stamp duty


2. If refinance, use the total amount which is RM400,000 to calculate your total legal fees.

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QUOTE(erictan26 @ Nov 27 2015, 03:22 PM)
other than bank, insurance who do house refinancing service, is there any other credit company who does this also? My brother rent out the condo to someone as always late payment for the housing loan ( late but not didnt pay ), suddenly the bank send a letter to state that the rate adjust from blr-2.4 to blr + 4, this is worst than loan shark.....the monthly installment can be double up with this adjustment. As the ccris record may not justify to get refinancing from bank, just wonder is there any other ways? nobody will accept this blr+4 for the entire loan....your loan 400k may become few million i think. It is mistake to late payment but with late payment interest charge shall be sufficient to cover bank interest , with this blr+4 can see how this bank squeeze the clients...
i myself do have house loan with other bank but i dont think any other bank impose this blr+4 method to treat their client
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Dear,

1. This rate increase has been stipulated in the facility agreement, hence they aren't lying as it is written in black and white. The only thing is your banker didn't inform you regarding this terms or he doesn't even have slight idea about this. Can't blame, as bank stipulated such terms in ocean of small written words, which is hard for any one to identify such terms eve exist.

2. For banks such as OCBC, HLBB, AMBANK etc... they have 90days of late payment period before they will tune the rate to BLR+XX. Anyway, for the first late payment overdue rate adjustment, you will be able to seek for forgiveness and change the rate back to what it is. The 2nd time onwards, your rate will officially be BLR+XX.

3. For PB should be the worst, as they allowed merely 30days of default period. The rest is 90days and 60 days. Do check your facility of agreement for the default period given.

4. The things you can do to prevent such cruel punishment is: PAY ON TIME!

Other than that is to credit in at least 3 months advance installment into your account. When you went travelling or busy scheduled, forgotten to pay installment, at least you have prepayment credited to save your self out of such blunder. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(IHC2012 @ Nov 27 2015, 10:23 PM)
my husband is facing the similar issue above.

he owe the bank 300k with the lock in period 5 years

the offer letter -1.8% (due to last time profile not that strong enough)

currently 6.85 -1.8= 5.05 interest rate = we feel it is quite high

is it if we want to reduce the rate, we need to ask for the bank for rate reduction? we also dont wan incur any charges.
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Dear IHC2012,

1. Yes, the first way you can tackle this is by asking for rate revision. Not every bank allows such move as they wouldn't want their profit marginalize.

2. If they wouldn't allow you to seek for rate revision, refinance is another way around. As 5.05% is quite high for RM300K loan. refinancing would help out in this case as the basis point is 50 basis point %.

1st option incurred no lost, 2nd option will incurred legal and stamp duty fees on legal side.
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QUOTE(availyboy @ Nov 26 2015, 03:26 PM)
This is very informative as well! As it's my first time knowing bout property and stuff, due to the sudden extra cash we had. This helps a lot and would be putting extra cash to reduce the interests then.

Cheers!

Thanks a bunch really  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(moomoosky @ Nov 29 2015, 03:32 PM)
how the bank rating bank interest income/ earning from bank, share ?
if my dsr in border of approval. how does bank calculate interest income, in 80% or 100% in DSR.
how does it add advantage in DSR.
Pls advise.
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Dear moomoosky,

1. Did you mean, how bank calculate income from shares interest?
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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ Nov 29 2015, 04:03 AM)
Thank for your reply..
So for S&P agreement's legal fee, the legal fees calculation will be based on the selling price (rm200k) OR total loan amount(rm400k) OR property valuation value (rm400k)?

And how about the valuation fees charged, calculation based on property valuation value or property selling price?
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Dear,

Refinance cash out fees:

1. Stamp duty loan (Based on the refinance cash out total amount)
2. Legal loan (Based on the refinance cash out total amount)
3. Valuation (Based on the highest valuation received.)

Market value RM500,000
Valuation is Rm600,000

Refinance cash out Rm400,000 from Bank A to Bank B

1. Stamp duty loan fees on RM400,000
2. Legal loan fees on Rm400,000
3. Valuation on Rm600,000

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QUOTE(moomoosky @ Nov 30 2015, 04:39 AM)
Yes, from share interest and fd interest
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Dear,

The formula isn't standard throughout the banks, there isn't any standard for calculation, not like credit card.

Income calculation for shares, bank would only look at the dividend collected for that year.

Let's say Rm8000

Incomet for monthly will calculate as

(Rm8000/12 ) *0.8
=RM533.33

RM533.33 will be your supporting income


2. FD, use 3%/12
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QUOTE(chunnang_87 @ Nov 30 2015, 11:40 PM)
sifu-sifu sekalian, need some advice here. Just got my housing loan approved and wondering which to choose:

Loan Amount RM500k

1) RHB = 4.4% (4.0+0.4), FullFlexi, Islamic, (MRTT 25years RM13271)

2) AM  = 4.4% (3.8+0.6), FullFlexi, Conventional, (MRTA 35years RM14496)
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Dear,

This is very subjective, it depends on your end goals.

But due to both the rate and package is almost alike, I will compare the dissimilar facts.

1. If I wanted to refinance in 3 years time (Which is not feasible as the fees and cost are costly), I would chose Rhb for the islamic loan.

2. If I would want the cheapest interest rate, I would go for RHB as the spread rate is 0.4% compare to Ambank 0.6%. In the future if the interest rate drop, my loan rate % would be lower. This concept doesn't hold much ground as we still don't know how Base rate will played out in the future in Malaysia.

3. If U want the cheapest deal right now, I would go for RHB, because ambank MRTA cost Rm14496, whereby to me is costly and taking 35 years mrta isn't the best choice for mortgage protection.


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QUOTE(stinky @ Nov 30 2015, 03:38 PM)
Want to ask,
I took a Home Loan with RHB some where early 2014. And today the RHB HQ told me that I'm not suppose to pay advance during interest period (NOT even extra  RM1).

As a result of me paying advance during interest period, their system gone crazy and stop charging me for 1 year and 2 months. Got such thing ah?

Now they back charge me......and of cos I will pay. but wondering why got such issue.
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Dear,

1. Never heard of the system goes crazy story before, quite new and refreshing. You will be remember as the men who breaks RHB loan system... rclxm9.gif

2. Most of the banks doesn't allow you to pay any advanced cash during interest period, some bank allows, some doesn't. you need to ask your banker or read the loan facility provided.

3. How are they going to charge you? based on what calculation? Just curious! haha biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(navygreen @ Nov 30 2015, 04:14 AM)
bump on my query...anyone that may know anything from personal experience or others'?
haven't seen any replies related to this question...

Thanks a bunch smile.gif smile.gif
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Dear,

lets take example of malaysian working at singapore

1. If A works at singapore and not a PR and still a MALAYSIAN MALAYSIAN, A will be eligible for 90% loan margin finance, depends on which bank A applies

2. If A works at singapore and now a PR, he will be only be eligible for 80% of margin financing.


From point 1. If the borrower has no debt and commitments in Malaysia, worst come worst is the margin of finance being slashed to 80%. But if he is able to show strong saving reserve cash 10k or more, bank might reconsider giving A 90%.



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