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Madgeniusfigo
post Oct 13 2017, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Oct 12 2017, 07:51 PM)
Hi guys, which do you think is a better deal for the following offers:

PBB (semi flexi with mandatory MRTA financing for 13 years)
processing fee
212.00

monthly service fee:
n/a

indicative valuation fee:
~1400

rate:
1st year 4.10% (fixed)
subsequent: BR(3.52%) + 0.70% =4.22%

MRTA:
need to take coverage
of 13 years of 451000.00=7997
Total=458997

1st year=2220.00 (12 months)=26640
Subsequent=2250.00 (348 months)=783000

Grand total for entire tenure:
811252

HSBC (full flexi):
processing fee
212.00

monthly service fee:
10.60 (4070.40 for 32 years)

indicative valuation fee:
1634.20

rate:
BR(3.64%) + 0.76%=4.40%=2229.92 (384 months/32 years)=856289.28

MRTA: not mandatory

Grand total for entire tenure:
861993.88
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 12 2017, 07:59 PM)
Definitely PBB of course, 4.22% vs 4.40%, cannot compare at all, difference of almost 50k in total interest & principle paid.
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Dear yeeck


^ lifebalance is right

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post Oct 15 2017, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(lpuiman @ Oct 13 2017, 04:09 PM)
Hi,

I have a case here. This is my second house. SNP name will be join name with my fiancee whom already have 2 mortgage loan. Thus, for this house the loan applicant  will be me only. Wondering is there any bank can add my fiancee as guarantor without affecting 90% loan ratio?. Btw those who interested to help up can contact me at 0149978016.
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Dear

1. Yes it can be done

Cheers


QUOTE(NecroPhilia @ Oct 13 2017, 05:28 PM)
Hi guys, Just wondering how thin is the chances to secure a home loan if me and my fiancee are both just work for about 3 months in the new company and both of us didn't have any credit card.

Do let me know how much of loan that we might probably can get?

Here's my details:

Age 23 & 24
Salary : RM3000 & RM3000

Both of us not using any CC and outstanding loan.
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1. Based on the details given by you, Your max loan eligibility for each bank is as follow:
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Bank  Loan amount
A*BANK   738,803.33  
H*NG LE*NG   899,645.67  
M*YBANK   694,684.67  
*CBC   595,444.00  
R*B   793,805.00  
U*B   645,064.33  
C*MB   793,805.00  
AFF*N   -    
PB*   793,805.00  
HSB*   595,444.00  


2. Zero debts?

3.
Things to take note of based onmy max loan calculation
" -The best bank to get the highest loan would be HLBB . However, each bank has it's own ball game
Different bank will calculate your income and debt accordingly based on each bank's different policy. Hence,
I would need to do a due diligence on your profile before suggesting the best bank to proceed with."

" - I would need to check you CCRIS, CTOS and income documentation before giving you any assurance.

If everything goes fine, 90% shouldn't be a problem for you."



QUOTE(lls119 @ Oct 13 2017, 09:25 PM)
Hi, may i know how much loan / % can i get? And housing price range i should look for.

Net salary 3,100
No commitment

Thanks
0176089019
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QUOTE(BLC @ Oct 14 2017, 12:49 AM)
Hi bankers,
Im planning to buy my second property (sub sales) which is a house costing about RM1.4mil

My age is:37

My details as below:
1. 1st property (condominium) mortgage loan: 840K (Balance 750K)
2. Car hire purchase: 230K (Balance 130K)
3. Total combined basic salary: 22K per month
4. Cash/FD:200K

How is my chance to secure a 90% loan? Also the competitive rates i can get smile.gif
Another thing is that my CTOS report show 606 (not so good) however in the report shows that there is no issues and all my payment is done on time, so i dont understand why its not so good.

Was already going to book the place, now im concern about the report.

Need some advice about it.

Thanks!
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Dear

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1. Based on the details given by you, Your max loan eligibility for each bank is as follow:
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Bank  Loan amount
A*BANK   916,197.22  
H*NG LE*NG   1,161,060.12  
M*YBANK   531,179.74  
*CBC   832,380.95  
R*B   1,256,051.91  
U*B   519,222.62  
C*MB   1,244,551.91  
AFF*N   -    
PB*   1,244,551.91  
HSB*   832,380.95  

Things to take note of based onmy max loan calculation
" -The best bank to get the highest loan would be HLBB . However, each bank has it's own ball game
Different bank will calculate your income and debt accordingly based on each bank's different policy. Hence,
I would need to do a due diligence on your profile before suggesting the best bank to proceed with."

2. 89% can be done

3. However, if you have any bonus, commission, rental income that can back up your income, will be great

4. let me know
Cheers

QUOTE(blogomatic @ Oct 14 2017, 11:42 AM)
sifu, just want to check my eligibility.

net pay: 5400
commitment: 2100 loan
credit card: paid every month
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What's your commitment?

1. car loan
2. housing loan
3. personal loan?

CHEEERS
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post Oct 15 2017, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(mh0101 @ Oct 15 2017, 05:42 PM)
Hi guys,

would like to get advice.

Just booked a condo, the developer free SPA legal fee & Loan stamp duty.

Currently wanted to proceed loan process, but the developer limit buyer only can look for maximum two bank.

Actually I would like to look for my hometown banker, but developer not allow me too do so. She said if I look for other banker ,I have to bear the lawyer fee. Is that reasonable? 

She tell I must use (Example Maybank XXX Branch Banker) if I use (Example Maybank ZZZ Branch Banker) , I have to bear the lawyer cost. My hometown banker tried to contact developer also get threaten.

Anyone face this situation before? How to solve this situation.

Thanks for your kind help.
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Dear,

1. This happens not often but does exist

2. They want the banker they partner with earn the com, so that they can work together nicely in the future, perks for the branch

or

they only gave such deal to the branch only

3. cap max bank that you can apply, that's new. As any developer would encourage you to go for any bank that would approved your loan

4. make a call to the developer, if they really have such clause, just abide.

else it's just some hoax from certain agent who wanna make some $$


haha

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post Oct 16 2017, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(wl7817 @ Oct 16 2017, 04:44 AM)
Hi Sifus,

Would like to ask

Which Bank offered the best rate at the moment?

I know PBB 4.22%, Affin 4.27&
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Dear

1. You have stated the bank

2. rate is one thing, another is the facilities and services you need to take into considerations.

A. Banks that are easily accessible to your vicinity, why take loan offer form bank when you need them, you need to drive 20-40km.

B. Customer services, go with bank that offer tremendous value added service, try calling their hotline whether easily reached and are they responsive and helpful. In long term, this will lessen any unwanted hassle.

C. Semi or Full flexi that suits your criteria. SOmetimes, different banks semi and full flexi mechanism is different

D. Does the loan package has the right features that you need? Finance legal fees, semi/full/fixed/islamic loan ? lock in period or without? defaultment period ? loan account is it link to saving or current account?

E. Does the consultant serves you well?

etc all this that must put into consideration into long term perspectives instead of just interest rate. Effective interest rate right now is quite short term view.



QUOTE(tky1993 @ Oct 16 2017, 06:19 PM)
hi all, would like to have ur opinion.

Does ppl normally buy insurance throughout the whole tenure if say my loan is 35 years? If I were to take loan from rhb, the min insurance to cover is 22 yrs(rm16k) while for hlb they give me option not to buy at all. Which shud i choose?

Second, what is the common interest rate offered by rhb bank for loan >500k? Is 4.35 slightly on the high side?
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Does ppl normally buy insurance throughout the whole tenure if say my loan is 35 years? If I were to take loan from rhb, the min insurance to cover is 22 yrs(rm16k) while for hlb they give me option not to buy at all. Which shud i choose?


1. It really depends, on ur risk and insured objectives
2. Of cos it iwll be great to take insured over the life time of your loan, but the premium will be higher.

Hence it's factoring your cash flow, your insured amount needed.

Usually the protection offered by 3rd party would be much better than bank's protection features

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Second, what is the common interest rate offered by rhb bank for loan >500k? Is 4.35 slightly on the high side?

4.35% for RHB is quite good
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QUOTE(Halfhearted04 @ Oct 16 2017, 06:35 PM)
how much i have to make if i need to borrow 600k home loan from bank ?

no gf no waifu . wish to take on the loan alone .
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HAHAHAH no gf no waify really save you lots of money and boost your cashflow!

1. RM600K, loan only credit card

safe calculation is
Gross income 5-6k

2. How much your gross income needed, really depends on your debts in ccris, if you are keen to disclose biggrin.gif

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post Oct 17 2017, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(wl7817 @ Oct 16 2017, 09:12 PM)
Hi there, so if I buy full tenure of MRTA assuming 35 years, but I sold my property in 10 years time before the full tenure of 35 years? What will happen to the MRTA that i bought? Would I be able to claim for refund?
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MRTA will be lapse, with some cash back according to their quotation

Cheers

QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 16 2017, 09:14 PM)
You'll get a partial refund of the unused premium from the insurance company.
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QUOTE(wl7817 @ Oct 16 2017, 09:20 PM)
Oh only partial refund. So would it be better if I buy 10 years tenure first, if subsequently decided to stay longer then only top up the tenure?
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Nope

QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 16 2017, 09:22 PM)
You cannot top up a mrta loan once it's sold by the bank which is why it's quite rigid in terms of the flexibility or add or decrease the amount that covered.

Especially if you finance the mrta into the loan, you can't change and add on more financing after signing the letter offer.

Which is why mlta will be more flexible in the long term
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QUOTE(ygz12345 @ Oct 17 2017, 11:47 AM)
Hi,

I'm currently working in Singapore.
How to calculate my maximum loan amount ?
Is it direct convert my monthly income to RM ?

Thanks.
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1. Each bank has diff conversion, look at the bank exchange rate and reduce slight 1%, would be your loan calculation based on SGD income

2.MAX loan calculation

based on your gross income and debts based on your singapore credit bureau

CHEERS

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post Oct 18 2017, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(navyblue17 @ Oct 17 2017, 05:29 PM)
Hi! Whats the terms for the MBB promotion? Am in the midst of doing loan applicationl loan amount >500k, the banker did not tell me about this! Only told me about the 4.3%.
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 17 2017, 05:45 PM)
this rate is only for above 500k for promotional period.

if want lower than MBB, you have to apply with PBB which is first year 4.1% 2nd year onward 4.22%
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QUOTE(jex-koi @ Oct 17 2017, 10:20 PM)
Hi,

I got these quotes for refinance-loan amount RM490k

HSBC : Full flexi, 4.7%
MBB : Semi flexi, 4.30%

The difference is quite a lot. Why is it so ?

are there any admin/hidden charges for MBB & HSBC ?
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Different bank has different profile rating on the interest they offered.

Hence, each bank is different

HSBC isn't keen on your profile or that property location



QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 17 2017, 10:28 PM)
Take the mbb loan 
Since the interest is way lower than HSBC

Nothing else to compare at this point.

MBB semi flexi charges per withdrawal rm25
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QUOTE(jex-koi @ Oct 17 2017, 10:32 PM)
Thanks. Would it be better to refinance with same bank (with the current loan), or with another bank ?

I am just worried about hidden charges if refinance with other banks
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1. The best is refinance within the same bank, which is top up loan, if there isn't any changes on the borrower and spa owner

2. As cash out, your legal loan fees will be charged on the top up amount only

3. There's no legal spa incurred as no ownership changes.

4. You can see why it is cheaper to top up, and on top of that, top up loan takes 1month+ or less for the cash to disbrused

5. Except, if you really hate the bank, you refinance out or you wanna change the borrower or spa owner or the other bank rate is tooooooooo sexy

else no point refinance to other bank

Cheers

QUOTE(ygz12345 @ Oct 17 2017, 10:53 PM)
1.4M !!! are you serious ??
i went to CIMB today and the guy told me 600k max.... LOL
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 18 2017, 12:44 AM)
If you move to another bank, you will recur a loan agreement fee with the new bank

if you stay with your current bank, which is a top up loan, then the fee will be kept minimal with the same bank.

Hidden charges could be penalty for lock in period if your loan has a lock in period clause, however if it's over the time period then you won't have to worry about the penalty because it's no longer applicable.
Oh ic  biggrin.gif
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post Oct 19 2017, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(navyblue17 @ Oct 18 2017, 07:21 PM)
Hi!

Anybody has experience with SC Bank? Banker told me will try to get 4.25%. Based on briefing, no lock in period, and MRTA not compulsory,

Have applied for PBB and MBB with compulsory MRTA to get their better rates.

Still reviewing should take MRTA or not, or MLTA.

Would applying for >3 banks affect credit rating?
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1. certain bank MRTA is compulsory, certain branch is compulsory.. biggrin.gif certain bank need hit the quarter target

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post Oct 20 2017, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Kelvin123@ @ Oct 20 2017, 01:30 AM)
Gurus

May I know if bank keen/ interested to loan out for auction properties?

Usually the loan is 80% (assume first time buyer)? Will it based on market value price or the auction price? Will it be cheaper if to take loan from the bank which auction the property in the first place?
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Dear,

1. Yes, they are keen

2. well, it is the same. first 2 housing loan capped at 90%, 3rd is 70%

3. Auction price

4. All bank would be the same

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QUOTE(KenDiriwan @ Oct 20 2017, 03:52 PM)
Hi all,

How does a bumi discount applies ?

As a buyer, does he/she entitle to receive the discount on either bumi/non-bumi type of property purchase ?

Also for the reselling rule which i've heard a bumi lot could only open for bumi buyer?

Could the below scenario possible:
Bumi buyer purchased with discount on non-bumi property and resell to as well to non-bumi.
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1. bumi discount will be offered from developer for certain units. 7% discount on the spa price

2. most of the project has a certain quota for bumi discount units

3. if the property title stated restriction of bumi lot it is applicable to sold back to bumi, however there's cases where ppl successfully sold it to non bumi, the hard part is the title transfer part with restriction.

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QUOTE(Royal Malaysia Pirate @ Oct 20 2017, 06:18 PM)
Hi, I'm aware of bumi-lot & converting bumi-lot to non-bumi lot things
Is there any possibilities that the previous converted lot revert back to bumi lot?
Given there's a bumi buyer.

Example a bumi buyer interested to buy the house which already converted to non-bumi lot, because several lot still empty even after conversion to non-bumi, but procedure wise is it possible? Put aside developer's pov.
Sorry if this question a bit/lot silly
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1.why convert to bumi lot?? =_=

2. if it's non bumi let it be, don't have to complicate this..




QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 20 2017, 06:22 PM)
It would be dumbfounded to get a non-bumi lot to be converted back to bumi lot though I am not saying it's impossible since the land belongs to the government under Leasehold, so it may be possible though I've yet to experience such decision made by the government before.

And trust me a bumi buyer would not want to bother converting a non-bumi lot back to a bumi lot because a non-bumi property is more marketable compared to strictly bumi-lot as it adds on restriction to only purchasable by the bumi.

The valuers will not give a very high market value to a bumi lot if you compare a bumi and non-bumi lot at the same location.
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QUOTE(wl7817 @ Oct 20 2017, 06:59 PM)
Hi Sifus, mind to share the differences (pros and cons) of islamic housing loan vs conventional? And who offering the best rate in the market currently? Thanks in advance.

I know a few regading islamic, feel free to share more or correct me if Im wrong.

Islamic (Pros)
- no early settlement penalty (in case of refinancing)
- there is a cap on variable rate (about 10%)
- stamp duty discount 20%

Islamic (Cons)
- not sure if islamic has any cons aside from non halal activities cant apply for it
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Dear

1. lot of bank offer promotional rate right now, 4.2-4.3% !

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2. Islamic (Pros)
- no early settlement penalty (in case of refinancing)
- there is a cap on variable rate (about 10%)
- stamp duty discount 20%

Yes

3.

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Islamic (Cons)
- not sure if islamic has any cons aside from non halal activities cant apply for it


a. PREVIOUSLY there's product BBA, whereby if you settle the loan early, you still need to pay more than u owe.. lol.. that's old product, now is (MM)


-For islamic loan there's 2 package for it, that is Bai Bithaman Ajil (BBA) and Musyarakah mustanaqisah(MM).

Your HLBB would be MM

For BBA there's a max cap amount that you pay.
example
RM200K LOAN/ 5.5%/ 30YEARS =Installment RM1135.58

Total price to be paid is = RM1135.58 X 30 =RM408,808

This price stated in the contract will be the absolute price, the fixed profit has added into the total payable amount. For loan settlement, For usual loan, you will just need to pay off the outstanding balance stated in the bank, but For BBA product, the total paymentis very vague, no actual formula For it.

Musyarakah mustanaqisah
-tries to be the complete and newer version of islamic loan
- it is similar to conventional loan in terms of interest calculation, interest rate, early repayment and capital repayment. The difference is this loan is a Profit loss joint venture for you and the bank. Starting 10% (DP) will own by you and 90%(bank puchase from the seller) so that doesn't breach syariah law.



QUOTE(commtrader @ Oct 20 2017, 07:19 PM)
Hi, is it a must if we get 4.25% rate must tie to MRTA ?

is it always the case?

If we exclude the MRTA, the rate will be default to 4.35-4.4?
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1. it depends which bank, certain bank for best rate, must tie with MRTA... else how bank earn profit biggrin.gif

2. As mention, certain bank

3. I just help a client of mine approved HLBB loan 4.28% without MRTA, but the loan amount is RM270K

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post Oct 20 2017, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(commtrader @ Oct 20 2017, 07:53 PM)
Only HLB? RHB and Cimb cannot waive the mrta?

How to calc the mrta amount required?

The mortgage officer just ask me to buy 12k mrta.
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Dear

1. each bank has their own template to calculate

put it simply minimum mrta 3-5 years

2-5k onky


2. You can ask him to reduce to minimum, at first he she will reject, cos he need to redo the whole loan again. haha

3. If he reluctant, do meet up the branch manager.

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QUOTE(thp @ Oct 21 2017, 12:03 AM)
Hi All,
First time buying house, which one is better? Semi flexi and included MRTA
Maybank - 3+1.25 = 4.25%
Affin [Islamic] 1st year 3.85 + 0.30 = 4.15%
                    2nd year 3.85 + 0.43 = 4.28%
UOB 3.75 + 0.6 = 4.35%
CIMB 3.9 + 0.6 = 4.5%
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1. is this a subsales or project

2. if project, affin bank seems the better choice

other considerations:

For me, if the ELR is the same, spread rate different isn't differ by alot, I will chose according to few criteria as below:

A. Banks that are easily accessible to your vicinity, why take loan offer form bank when you need them, you need to drive 20-40km.

B. Customer services, go with bank that offer tremendous value added service, try calling their hotline whether easily reached and are they responsive and helpful. In long term, this will lessen any unwanted hassle.

C. Semi or Full flexi that suits your criteria. SOmetimes, different banks semi and full flexi mechanism is different

D. Does the loan package has the right features that you need? Finance legal fees, semi/full/fixed/islamic loan ? lock in period or without? defaultment period ? loan account is it link to saving or current account?

E. Does the consultant serves you well?

etc all this that must put into consideration into long term perspectives instead of just interest rate. Effective interest rate right now is quite short term view.

cheers

QUOTE(calintztan @ Oct 21 2017, 11:53 AM)
Hi all sifus, would like to make an inquiry on below case:

I'm currently working overseas on a contract job and got paid a fixed amount of salary. Tried to apply pre-loan via MBB and they said i'm not favorable due to contract job. What are the chances of success if i try other bank?

Age: 24
Income: SGD 4800
After rental etc etc: SGD 4000
No other side income.
Commitments: No
Have 1 CC under MBB.
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Dear calintztan,

1. What industry are you in?

2. Can I look at your employment offer letter

3. Income should be good, but depending on how much loan you are getting

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post Oct 21 2017, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(calintztan @ Oct 21 2017, 05:41 PM)
Sorry, would like to clarify on the salary part. I'm working in Brunei and got paid in Brunei Dollar but since it's tied to SGD should not make a difference right?

The unit i'm interested in is under construction and price is 498k.

Job scope is Software Engineer.
I'm outsourced to a MNC company via a headhunter agency.
Nature of business is telecommunication.
Duration of contract is March 2017 until March 2018 and is renewable depending on whether there's project here.
Currently based here but should there's no project here, will likely try to seek other overseas job.
Industry is telecommunication.

Vaguely described on top.

Loan is 498k based on the unit price.

Thanks sifus for the replies.
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Dear,

Doable

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I have experience in dealing this, but need to teach you how to do it face to face, not here... hahah

Cheers


QUOTE(ngph988 @ Oct 21 2017, 06:28 PM)
You will need to provide your contract letter to bank since your contract validity only up to 1 year.  Perhaps if you have renewal contract from previous year with current company, you may reveal it to the bank to add scoring.

Which are the panel banks tied up to this project? Because different bank different assessment on your occupation risk appetite and income calculation.
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QUOTE(calintztan @ Oct 21 2017, 09:24 PM)
So far the agent told me only Maybank. The rest have to wait till next week so finger crossed now.  cry.gif
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QUOTE(jex-koi @ Oct 22 2017, 06:00 PM)
Hi guys,

I would like to know how much price difference there will be between top-up (with current home loan bank), and refinance (with another bank). I read online that the top-up will incur less fees.

I am considering whether to top up with current bank (which has higher interest rate), or refinance (with lower interest rate). Can someone give advise on this ?
Thanks
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Dear,

1. Top up fees include
- legal loan on the extra loan amount top up only
- valuation

Refinance
-legal spa (if changes owner)
-legal loan (full)
- valuation

2. There's few more factors into the calculation, whetehr the interest different big that causes massive saving in long term and etc

3. Example

RM50K outstanding loan
top up 50k
100k loan
same ownership


Refinance
-legal loan 4k
valuation RM400

Top up
- legal loan 2.5k
- valuation rm400

above is just example with figurative numbers and figure

4. to make the right decision, do let me know the actual loan amount, the interest rate you are currently paying for and your current loan outstanding amount

CHeers

QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 22 2017, 06:03 PM)
It will be advisable to go to your bank branch to check out the price involved for the top up loan

As for the refinancing, the moving cost is 2% - 2.5% of the loan amount.
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QUOTE(angle45 @ Oct 23 2017, 09:26 AM)
Dear Sifu,
I would like to check my loan eligibility. Currently I having my own Sdn Bhd company which established since 2015. Monthly I drawing RM12,000.00 director fees. Which after deducted PCB is RM 10308.40 nett as no epf & socso contributed.

My current age is 31 & my current commitment is RM1450 for house loan & RM1225 for car.

I intended to loan for RM 1,085,400.00. Now I would like to check out whether i able to cover my loan or I need to add my gf salary together before applying the loan. My gf net income is around RM 4,050.00

Thanks for the advice!
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QUOTE(angle45 @ Oct 23 2017, 12:45 PM)
Hi ngph988,

I owned 50% of my company and please refer to below for my respond:
1) Jan 2015
2) IT Service
3) Average RM60k per month
4) Yes, but on FY 2016 only and the amount is around 96k gross. Whereby my director fees had increased since April 2017 to 12,000.00
5) Under construction and complete by 2022
legal for spa & loan, stamp duty for loan & disbursement covered by developer.

Thanks for your advice
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1. Yes can be done

2. BUt still have to look at your doc and do ccris ctos checking first.

Cheers


QUOTE(jex-koi @ Oct 23 2017, 10:16 AM)
The valued property is RM490k, so 90% loan will be around RM441k.

I heard I can save on some portion if I top-up, but don't know which portion.
Thx.
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Dear

Top up works this way

1. Your current loan outstanding with your existing bank is RM50K << example

2. your prop market value RM490K, loan 90% = RM441k

3. TOp up amount is

RM441K - RM50K= RM391K

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QUOTE(chinhooi8 @ Oct 23 2017, 03:55 PM)
Hi,
I have 2 housing loans, whose properties (in PJ) have doubled. I am looking for refinancing or top-up. One loan is with HSBC, the other is with UOB. I dont suppose there are any banks offering free refinancing nowadays, right?
Which banks are more attractive for refinancing? My property value is now at RM520K and RM550k.

Appreciate your help .... happy.gif  happy.gif  happy.gif  cool.gif
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Dear,

1. what's your motive to refinance?

- To cash out more money?
- to change ownership?
- to get better interest rate?


I need to know the purpose before advising

2. For top up, as mentioned just now,

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3. What's your current loan outstanding for each loan? so that I could tell you how much u can top up

4. Do stipulate your income and debts, so that I could calculate your DSR for max loan amount

-Gross income
-Allowance
-bonus

Debts
-Car
-personal loan
-credit card utilization last month
-asb
-ptptn

etc

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QUOTE(Kelvin123@ @ Oct 23 2017, 08:06 PM)
Thanks and cheers. Thought loan will be market value price though  bangwall.gif
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(Y) no problem

QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 23 2017, 08:09 PM)
You can buy in cash and refinance into market value, provided you bought your property way below market price
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QUOTE(Kelvin123@ @ Oct 23 2017, 08:11 PM)
Excellent idea but no cash... thanks
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 23 2017, 08:12 PM)
Sure no problem
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Oct 24 2017, 01:20 AM)
preparing for loan application and so far i know PBB is doing some promo. 4.1% 1st year then 4.22% for the rest. i believe this is the cheapest rate in the market so far? (provided i got it) any catch on this?

had a peek at MRTA,etc but still don't understand. better to tie with bank or find provider outside? MRTA or MLTA better? how much i will be charged for 600k of loan? pay upfront better or put into the loan?

thank you
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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Oct 24 2017, 11:30 AM)
Hi,
I have been out of touch from mortgage a few years so just want to a 'refresher' ..  How does the 'First Year x.xx%, second year and subsequent year' works ?  Is it the 1st year upon LA signed , or 1st year upon first disbursement.  So let's say i'm planning to get a 70% loan for a new property, how is the 'first year' being determined?  Thanks for your help.
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1st year starts on the first disbursement

2nd year on the 2nd

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QUOTE(jex-koi @ Oct 24 2017, 11:32 AM)
Last time when I took a loan, UOB had slightly lower interest rate than other banks. But UOB charged me some 'misc' charges which weren't disclosed until after taking its loan.
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call up customer service and asked what it is about, usually set up fees

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QUOTE(jex-koi @ Oct 24 2017, 11:35 AM)
I went to ask MBB & HSBC about the refinance/top up loan. Getting conflicting info about the cash-out repayment.

M says the cash-out needs to be paid back within 10 years (may be increased to x-years depending on approval).

H says cash-out repayment period will follow new home loan (which is 35 years).

Why is it different ?
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Dear

1. when u cash out, bank will calculate your eligibility of the cash out based on 10 years loan tenure

2. When you pay installment on the cash out, it iwll be according to your loan tenure, 35 or 30 or what ever it is stated in your letter offer



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QUOTE(pull007 @ Oct 26 2017, 08:18 AM)
Dear sifus,

I have housing loan full flexi with CIMB with outstanding amount of RM520k for 20 years tenure. Currently, I'm paying RM3.5k/month for the loan.

I would like to prolong my loan tenure to 30-35 years so that I can reduce my monthly payment.

My question is:

1. Is it better to do with the same bank or change to other bank?

2. What are the costs involved?

3. Can the costs be absorbed into the new loan?

Please comment on my situation.

Thank you.
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Dear,

1. Reasonn to lengthen? to reduce installment payment? You can visit them and request them to reduce your installment, can try

2. Not cheap if you want lengthen, you have to pay legal loan fees which will surmount to 10k...

Cheers

QUOTE(FuNks @ Oct 26 2017, 11:17 AM)
Dear Sifus, wanna ask about BR base rate. when u sign offer letter, there got state something like if BR goes up 1 or 2%. in future will the base rate goes up?
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Dear

Base rate + spread rate = Effective lending rate

Base rate will alter according to banks need from time to time, hence it will affect your EFL

Spread rate will be fixed throughout the loan tenure.

Hence, banker like to say lower spread rate will be better:

Example:

A) 4% + 0.5% = 4.5% effective lending rate
B) 4.1% + 0.4%=4.5% effective lending rate

Both ELR is the same, but the spread rate is different.



Hence in common perspective sense, people will chose the lower spread rate as it is fixed throughout loan tenure. Thus will say B is better.

But actual sense, there's no best solutions or answer for this. Because, lower spread rate doesn't secure the bank from increasing the base rate in the future and ELR is higher than A in the future.

It's very subjective:

1. Base rate is different across different banks.

2. When OPR adjusted by BNM, Base rate wouldn’t bulge.

Base rate would either stay neutral or increase, depends on bank owns decision. Base rate could even change without OPR altered.

3. SRR is the reserve requirement that bank needs to uphold, set by BNM. It’s a liquidity management. When BNM believes economy is prospering and lack of funds, it may reduce SRR requirement to keep less money as reserves in bank and have bank lend more fund out for economic activities. This lead to higher loan growth. The changes of Base rate can reflect the effectiveness of Government Monetary Policy.

4. Spread are defined according to the borrower risk profile, but spread rate are mainly fixed when display to public, as most of the borrower holds almost identical risk.

5. Base rate may be adjusted every 3 months, it’s following KLIBOR. Every 3 months we may or may not witness a changes in bank base rate, but it depends on the banks own internal decision. Hence it is subjective. 3 months stated are just an example usage.

Example:
Jan OCBC rate 4.02
April OCBC rate 3.92

6. Spread rate will not change and is fixed till the end of the loan tenure

7. even when base rate is superbly low, the effective lending rate in the end could be higher.

Example:

Maybank: Base rate 3.2% + Spread 1.5% =4.7%
OCBC: Base rate 4.02%+ Spread 0.5%=4.52%

It all boil's down on the spread given, hence do look at the effective lending rate instead!!! Shop around and ask your mortgage agent.

Base rate

Pro
a) Greater competition between banks
b) Higher transparency, as bank will display their profit margin and bank lending efficiency
c) Bank loan rate changes will have a higher correlation with Malaysia market economy and OPR.
d) Better indication in monetary policy changes.

Cons

a)Uncertainty. Rate may change accordingly to banks own internal desire.
b) There’s a bottom line for how low our loan rate can drop.

Example:
BLR 6.85
6.85-2.5%=4.35%
6.85-2.6%=4.25%
And so on
Base rate
3.2%+ 1.35%= 4.55%
3.2%+2%= 5.2%

BLR is negative in nature, it can go as low as the bank allows it to be.

Base rate is positive in nature, it has a benchmark bottom line. 3.2% is the bottom line and won’t go any further down."

For me, if the ELR is the same, spread rate different isn't differ by alot, I will chose according to few criteria as below:

A. Banks that are easily accessible to your vicinity, why take loan offer form bank when you need them, you need to drive 20-40km.

B. Customer services, go with bank that offer tremendous value added service, try calling their hotline whether easily reached and are they responsive and helpful. In long term, this will lessen any unwanted hassle.

C. Semi or Full flexi that suits your criteria. SOmetimes, different banks semi and full flexi mechanism is different

D. Does the loan package has the right features that you need? Finance legal fees, semi/full/fixed/islamic loan ? lock in period or without? defaultment period ? loan account is it link to saving or current account?

E. Does the consultant serves you well?

etc all this that must put into consideration into long term perspectives instead of just interest rate. Effective interest rate right now is quite short term view.


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QUOTE(FuNks @ Oct 26 2017, 11:28 AM)
means BR will increase normally? if increase 1% will be like extra 500 bucks.  sweat.gif

not too sure coz first time taking loan.  mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(FuNks @ Oct 26 2017, 11:40 AM)
alright got it.

currently i have 630k loan, 3k monthly.

lets say if i have extra 100k cash, can i one shot pay off 100k or only can park into current account to decrease interest? 

*if can* , will it decrease monthly installment, or loan tenure?  icon_question.gif
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Yes it will

However, if it's semi flexi loan account, you have to call the service center that you are gonna put this xxxx amount to reduce capital, else it will become advance payment.


Cheers


QUOTE(stevenX @ Oct 26 2017, 08:19 PM)
Hi all sifu.
I come across an app which do loan calculation.
And there an option to keyin extra payment per month.

How does it work and did it actually work this way in mortgage loan ?
Simply pay extra, doesnt need to write in letter or pump an amount into principal also can save a lot of interest.
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Dear

Extra payment

1. When you pay extra for monthly installment, which it will reduce your total interest charges.

Example:

2016
Housing loan Rm500,000 / 4.5% interest rate / 35 years loan tenure
Monthly installment is RM2,366 (Rm1,875 Interest + Rm491.28 Principal = Rm2,366)

As you can see, your installment payment are actually paying more towards your interest than your principal.


If you decided to start paying extra RM500 every month. Your Monthly payment will be RM2,866 (RM1,875 Interest +RM991.28 Principal = RM2,866)

You will be paying more towards your Principal with the extra RM500. Hence, if you continue paying extra RM500/month consistently.

Your total interest saved would be RM180,759
Your Loan tenure will be shorten by 136months.

-This will help reduce your interest charges and reduce the loan tenure.

Paying extra to Capital account/advanced account

2. If you have a sudden influx of cash into your pocket, lets say inheritance of RM100,000, and you decided to put it into your housing loan capital account/advanced account, because you have max out ASB and other financial options.

Example:

2016
- Housing loan Rm500,000 / 4.5% interest rate / 35 years loan tenure
Monthly installment is RM2,366 (Rm1,875 Interest + Rm491.28 Principal = Rm2,366)
Total interest charge: RM493,837.28

- If you credit in Rm100,000 into the account, housing loan outstanding would be RM400,000 (RM500,000 -RM100,000), and paying the same installment amount, this will reduce your total interest charge to Rm395,072.

Because the interest you are paying right now is 4.5% on Rm400,000 instead 4.5% on Rm500,000.

Hence, you save interest and reduce the loan tenure likewise.


QUOTE(GGSC27 @ Oct 27 2017, 11:04 PM)
can any sifu advise the formula or calculation for max monthly installment for housing loan?
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Just use this calculator
https://www.drcalculator.com/mortgage/
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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Oct 31 2017, 10:07 AM)
yeah..so its nothing great then, just a semi-flexi (SF) loan as other SF packages offered by other banks then.  So let's not call this RHB's as FF (Full Flex).
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RHB pull a david blaine hahahha.

Yup, it is not an actual full flexi.

just a hybrid gimmick

Cheers

QUOTE(taobaomojito @ Oct 31 2017, 10:56 AM)
Hi any banker here pm me please. I need some 1 from JB because I'm working in sg. Looking for house loan around 480k. Public quoted me 4.1 first year and 4.2 year after..
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4.1 4.2%.. it's a good rate..

if you are just into rate, that will be the best

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QUOTE(ngph988 @ Oct 31 2017, 05:49 PM)
Did you just reply wrong post? LOL!! tongue.gif
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wow.. mother of bug... how this jump to this thread section!

HAHAHA rclxs0.gif
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QUOTE(henshin7 @ Nov 2 2017, 05:32 PM)
Hello.

I just remortgage my house for 50k, legal fee not financed in the loan. The bank's lawyer quote me 3.1k for the fees. Isn't this too high?

2 years ago when I bought the house through auction, the legal fee is just 1.8k (cheaper value of course) Can I change the lawyer to my old lawyer?

House is low cost leasehold.

Thank you in advance. I hope I'm in the right thread.
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Dear

1. You can used back ur previous lawyer, given that the lawyer is the panel of your housing loan bank

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