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i used to run at DDR620 @3-4-4-8 @ 2.8vDIMMAMD K8 Family Overclocking (754/939/940/AM2/1207), General discussions and newbies' guide
AMD K8 Family Overclocking (754/939/940/AM2/1207), General discussions and newbies' guide
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Jan 12 2007, 06:42 AM
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Jan 13 2007, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(casperito @ Jan 13 2007, 02:41 PM) yeap, tried already, 2.9vDIMM (read as 2.97vDIMM) with active cooling, also same result, BSOD on windows booting... |
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Jan 14 2007, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE(noobianz @ Jan 13 2007, 11:02 PM) try this,when in bios try to press this two buttons:crtl+F1 i think it's not burn your processor, it's more like unstable...it will enable advance bios configuration for sum mobos btw,as a reminder,keep ur HTL speed sumwhere in 1000mhz range,do not exceed more than 1000mhz coz it might burn ur processor HT*:hyper transport link |
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Jan 14 2007, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(noobianz @ Jan 14 2007, 09:55 AM) well,it was quoted from other ppl...i read thru those oc guide n sum ppl tell me tat it will fry ur proc >.<...btw,is it worth if i change my proc to Athlon X2 3800+ S939?or just get a neu AM2 mobo and AM2 proc?a lot of hassle if i wanna change s939 proc to AM2 proc ,coz i need to change the mobo and ram too...n it might poke a hole through my pocket(tight budget) IMO, yes, it's worth...single core to dual core la...for sure better...as for migrate to S940 AM2, yeah...it's kinda need a little more than just upgrading your S939 single core to dual core S939...if i were you, i might just stick to S939 with maybe X2 4200+ or FX series and build another S949 AM2 rig...just my 2cents... |
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Jan 14 2007, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(noobianz @ Jan 14 2007, 11:48 AM) thx for the suggestion,now my doubt is a bit clear...coz last time i heard tat AMD X2 only will show its true color with DDR800...just another question,rather than choosing X2 as my next proc,shud i go for dual core opty coz if im not mistaken opty core is higly overclockable compared to X2 yes, when comparing X2 with Dual Core Opty, i'd say, go for it...go for Dual Core Opty |
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Jan 14 2007, 11:03 PM
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Jan 15 2007, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(noobianz @ Jan 15 2007, 12:16 AM) i got sumthin i wanna ask u all,this thing has been haunting me since 1st time i did overclocking nope, CPU/RAM must run synchronize. the use of divider is for limiting our RAM to certain speed and let only our CPU clock way higher even stock RAM clock...let say, for instance...i have S939 A64 3000+ 1.8GHz coupled with 2x512MB Kingston KVR PC3200 DDR400, when use 1:1, it might be impossible to get 250MHz on RAM (maybe lucky enough to get that speed), so what to do, i still want to overclock but my RAM's limit it...so here's the memory divider comes in...use it to limit say DDR400 while my CPU clocked way higher than stock 1.8GHz...get the point?it is reagrding overclocking ur cpu on a divider does that means our cpu n ram doesnt syncrhonize? if yes,is there any side effect to our pc performance? |
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Jan 15 2007, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(noobianz @ Jan 15 2007, 12:47 AM) thx for the answer sniper,but i still hav a doubt take mine for instance...currently i'm running on divider 166MHz (333MHz) but still my HT (FSB) at 300x9 while RAM at 245MHz (490MHz)...should be no problem...keep in mind, it musnt RAM FSB higher than CPU FSB...i can't explain further...sorry for that...example: let say my FSB is 280mhz,but my ram running slower than the FSB(HTT for amd) becoz i run it on a divider, does my cpu still sync with my ram? This post has been edited by sniper69: Jan 15 2007, 12:53 AM |
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Jan 17 2007, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Jan 17 2007, 09:20 PM) I have a question. I hope someone can enlighten my about it. hy there...the reason you using memory divider is to limit the RAM from clock way too high for that RAM...let me explain (hopefully)...I tried overclocking my rig Specs: AMD Athlon64 3000+ (s939) ASUS A8N-SLI Motherboard Advance Modules(R) DDR400MHz (PC3200) 512MB*2 Palit NVIDIA(R) GeForce(tm) 7300GT Sonic 256MB DDR3 And this is what I achieved. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « and » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « My question is: In the BIOS, I set my RAM max speeds as DDR333 but somehow with the current overclocking settings for my CPU, I got a 220Mhz RAM (according to CPU-Z). Which is DDR440 I believe? Whats the reason behind this? and also Did I do everything correctly? What is not right here? Besides the RAM speed not sync 1:1 with FSB.... you got nice Venice A64 E6 which is can be overclocked up to 2.88GHz (320 x 9), but the problem is, you can run your RAM at 320 too (1:1) due to chip limitation, so here's the memory divider comes in handy, say you'd still wanna run 320 x 9 but you have to set your RAM speed even lower in order to make it happen.ok...say you've got 320 x 9 while your RAM 320 x (5/6) (166MHz divider) so it'll run 266MHz or 533MHz instead have to run 640MHz with instability issue... |
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Jan 17 2007, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Jan 17 2007, 09:42 PM) Hmmm.... is this memory divider a setting in the BIOS or did I just do that myself? in the BIOS...Btw, I still don't understand why it went up to DDR440 when I set to DDR333.... dude, you can't think exactly that way, it isn't absolute DDR333, as i told you earlier, its for limiting the speed...it'll run 333MHz only if you didnt overclock (200 x 9), everytime you increase HT (FSB), you also increase the memory clock's FSB, say 300 as for FSB and 300 for RAM, but since you limit the RAM at DDR333 mode, it's 300 x (333/400) got that? |
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Jan 17 2007, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Jan 17 2007, 10:26 PM) Whoops... ignore my above edited question too yes...you got it right...I finally get it. Setting it at DDR333 means to set 333/400.. but not exactly DDR333. Thanks sniper69 for helping me understand this. So basically, if I have got good RAMs, I shld try to set it to DDR400 which will make it 1:1 ram divider.............. did it get this right? here's my overclocking step (my own preference though)... Mission : Highest CPU Speed (GHz) CPU Multiplier : Stock (9x) - leave it alone HTT Multiplier : 1x (instead of 5x) RAM FSB : 100 (yes, lowest speed RAM Timing : Stock (Auto) vCORE : Stock (Auto) vDIMM : Stock (Auto) from there, i increase from 200MHz with 10~15MHz increment and each reboot, SuperPI and Priming for about 15 minutes...after that will continue overclocking to the max... Mission : Highest RAM Speed CPU Multiplier : 5x HTT Multiplier : 1x (instead of 5x) RAM FSB : 400 (Stock) RAM Timing : Stock (Auto) vCORE : Stock (Auto) vDIMM : Stock (Auto) just like 1st mission, each reboot with 10~15MHz increment (RAM FSB for sure) from here, you should get how far CPU and RAM can go...again, this is just my step in overclocking, and now running stable at 2.88GHz (320x9) with 1:1 (Team eXtreem TCCD PC4800), but have to use divider DDR333 on Kingston HyperX CH-5 in order to get 2.88GHz @320x9)... |
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Jan 20 2007, 11:24 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « this is using ClockGen... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « this is the highest A64 3000+ can do... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « FYI, I'm on Enermax FMA 350W + A64 Venice E6 3000+ (Stock vCORE) + Team eXtreem PC4800 (3-4-4-8 @2.87vDIMM)...it's not that good compared to Opty or newer CPU This post has been edited by sniper69: Jan 20 2007, 11:25 AM |
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Jan 20 2007, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(noobianz @ Jan 20 2007, 12:02 PM) wohoo...i try to tweak my bios setting n get this result from the tweaking you might be want to loosen the timing, say 2.5-4-3-8; 2.5-4-4-8 and 3-4-4-8...did you tried vDIMM?increasing it a bit might help also...just a thought...» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « actually i try to pump 300FSB,but i cant logon into windows...so far so good@2.6ghz |
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Jan 20 2007, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(noobianz @ Jan 20 2007, 03:27 PM) yes...it rock stable...» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « this is 2.836GHz, the one with 320x9, i must be deleted already...but the system's running daily at overclocked state QUOTE(J-Slade @ Jan 20 2007, 03:30 PM) @ sniper69 What is DRAM idle timer? Your says 256 clocks... mine is only 16clocks. Does that mean mine is slower or something? |
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Jan 20 2007, 06:56 PM
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Jan 21 2007, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(-vip3rleon9- @ Jan 21 2007, 12:21 PM) guys, just wondering. could my HTL be the culprit? 240mhz * 4 * 2 = 1920mhz (too high? my pc just won't load Windows on anything above 240mhz. 239mhz is still fine but 240mhz.. QUOTE(noobianz @ Jan 21 2007, 01:04 PM) Sniper,i need ur help...i cant specify wut type of ram im using...i see Only this code on the chip "32M8BDBG PR1200614"...ive gone through the RAM's handbook at hardware section and google ,but still...no answer Corsair got "Guru" which they listed out all Corsair's Chip, you can head over there...IIANM, Corsair's House of Help, hope it'll help...FYI, it's for hi-performance RAM, but you can try...http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=128 |
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Jan 22 2007, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(-vip3rleon9- @ Jan 22 2007, 10:00 PM) can you pls try to recall? cuz i desperately want to go above 2.1ghz. it's too slow. my target's around 2.7~ghz. ok...recalled my friggin DT-D43's not doing anything, running at 235mhz. before you past 240mhz, what hdd were you using? the same one? cuz i remember someone telling me that Seagate HDD's don't go well with MSI board's or something. here's what i'm did...(btw, you're using MSI K8N huh?)...i don't think cause of HDD la... anyway, from what my brother experience (yes, it's my bro's XP -- not mine, i'm on DFI and Asus), anyway...at BIOS, do as usual overclock, say you want to set at 250MHz (which is surely it won't boot), doesn't matter, just set it 250MHz, reboot, but this time, press/hold Insert key, if doesnt work, cold boot then...switch off, while on, hold Insert key until POST appear, it might halt at post, but don't worry, hit F1 to continue...and voila, should be run normally...this method anyway, you have to do it everytime booting your system, from what my bro said, MSI's weakness... |
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QUOTE(-vip3rleon9- @ Jan 22 2007, 11:06 PM) damm i gotta try this tomorrow. can't wait to get it above 240mhz. |
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