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TSxiaomantao
post Dec 8 2014, 11:44 AM, updated 11y ago

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All Sifus,

I just get my new house keys and the developer only give me 3 days to survey the new house and report the faulty and now left 2 days. My father go to wash the house and found out water are stuck at 4 toilets cannot move out.

All sifus, please let me know what need to be check in this short period.

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post Dec 8 2014, 11:50 AM

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Check the working wiring, that you can check...don't try funny stuff if you don't know....later I kene blame causing you shock....

That is one thing I usually check..sometime they hentam the wiring...have to be careful.
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post Dec 8 2014, 11:53 AM

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is your Property bought under the HDA.

If the answer is Yes, then the defect liability period is 18-mths and u can give notice of defects anytime during this 18-mths

So the Developer is BS you - but advice not to start any renovation until all major defects have been fixed

Please give name of Project / Developer


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post Dec 8 2014, 11:54 AM

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No yet apply TnB how to check ? any other thing need to check and checklist items usually people do?

QUOTE(vyseus @ Dec 8 2014, 11:50 AM)
Check the working wiring, that you can check...don't try funny stuff if you don't know....later I kene blame causing you shock....

That is one thing I usually check..sometime they hentam the wiring...have to be careful.
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post Dec 8 2014, 12:00 PM

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Some old post about checklist for new property defect.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/385900/all
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post Dec 8 2014, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Dec 8 2014, 11:53 AM)
is your Property bought under the HDA.

If the answer is Yes, then the defect liability period is 18-mths and u can give notice of defects anytime during this 18-mths

So the Developer is BS you - but advice not to start any renovation until all major defects have been fixed

Please give name of Project / Developer
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cfa28 sifu is right

most property cover 18months start from the day u collect the key.

u can complaint to their maintenance or customer service dept

peri peri
post Dec 8 2014, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(lai_dm @ Dec 8 2014, 12:46 PM)
cfa28 sifu is right

most property cover 18months start from the day u collect the key.

u can complaint to their maintenance or customer service dept
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not really if its a subsale from developer retain unit and it will be lock, stock and barrel
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post Dec 8 2014, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Dec 8 2014, 01:04 PM)
not really if its a subsale from developer retain unit and it will be lock, stock and barrel
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hence important to ask if the unit is purchased under HDA.
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post Dec 8 2014, 01:08 PM

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Xianmantoa...please elaborate what type of property you bought. You offered very little info on your new home.

if its SOVO/SOFO...its an entirely different story. No tnb n water supply yet before key collection? I worried for you.
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Dec 8 2014, 01:08 PM)
hence important to ask if the unit is purchased under HDA.
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subsale agreement also using back the HDA standard
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Dec 8 2014, 01:04 PM)
not really if its a subsale from developer retain unit and it will be lock, stock and barrel
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u mean those balance units or developer reserved unit not entitled 18 month maintenance ?

peri gor pls enlighten me
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post Dec 8 2014, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 8 2014, 01:08 PM)
Xianmantoa...please elaborate what type of property you bought. You offered very little info on your new home.

if its SOVO/SOFO...its an entirely different story. No tnb n water supply yet before key collection? I worried for you.
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under HDA guidelines, developer is allow for VP eventhough water meter or tnb meter were not installed. Its under clause "when the connection is ready for utility services"

Nothing to worry about. Only under perform developer taking such advantages.
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post Dec 8 2014, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(lai_dm @ Dec 8 2014, 01:10 PM)
u mean those balance units or developer reserved unit not entitled 18 month maintenance ?

peri gor pls enlighten me
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Schedule G & H is for under construction properties only

If Property has been completed with CCC, no need to use Schedule G & H anymore but tailored made SPA, similar to sub-sale.
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post Dec 8 2014, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(lai_dm @ Dec 8 2014, 01:10 PM)
u mean those balance units or developer reserved unit not entitled 18 month maintenance ?

peri gor pls enlighten me
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its treat as sub sale, why would developer entertain you for this?

says VP for project Jan 2014, then DLP is until June 2015

but if developer release its unit says on June 2014 due to good market demand, u think the developer will continues giving 18 months dlp until dec 2015?

mostly in market giving 1 to 2 weeks.
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post Dec 8 2014, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(lai_dm @ Dec 8 2014, 01:10 PM)
u mean those balance units or developer reserved unit not entitled 18 month maintenance ?

peri gor pls enlighten me
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as long as TS is 1st hand owner, the defect liability clauses still applied.

but a lot of developers dont recognised the defect liability of 2 years once the 1st hand owner has subsaled to new buyer.

they encouraged 1st owner to file in the defect list before handover...or some reputable developers do "help" subsale buyer for one round after receiving key...but not to the full 2 years.

I dun know if legally developers are responsible for defects if the house has been changed hand...
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Dec 8 2014, 01:12 PM)
Schedule G & H is for under construction properties only

If Property has been completed with CCC, no need to use Schedule G & H anymore but tailored made SPA, similar to sub-sale.
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developer copy paste the SPA agreement. not need tailor made.

even when you want to sell off your prop now to another buyer, new lawyer also using back your same SPA copy to make a new one, they dont tailor made. We all enjoy kopi and pasta
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 8 2014, 01:15 PM)
as long as TS is 1st hand owner, the defect liability clauses still applied.

but a lot of developers dont recognised the defect liability of 2 years once the 1st hand owner has subsaled to new buyer.

they encouraged 1st owner to file in the defect list before handover...or some reputable developers do "help" subsale buyer for one round after receiving key...but not to the full 2 years.

I dun know if legally developers are responsible for defects if the house has been changed hand...
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Not really, no developer would dare to risk its reputation to alter a purchaser DLP. The architect integrity will put on stake too.
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post Dec 8 2014, 01:19 PM

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I bought 2 double storey 2 years ago just got my keys, the water meter is installed and tnb yet to apply, developer ask to apply the tnb myself. This morning my father go and check the water are stuck at all toilet when we start cleaning, that why I am wonder what need to check dun know got any hidden stuff that I miss out,and this developer pass me a complaints form and need to send back to them within 3 days, if not they say wont entertain. I can say the finishing is very very bad ... dun seem a new house vmad.gif



QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 8 2014, 01:08 PM)
Xianmantoa...please elaborate what type of property you bought. You offered very little info on your new home.

if its SOVO/SOFO...its an entirely different story. No tnb n water supply yet before key collection? I worried for you.
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post Dec 8 2014, 01:24 PM

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if its a new house, you have 2 years to file defects.

you need to mark every single defect lioa.....

looks like you wont be able to move in until the major defects are rectified. Summore you need to apply for TNB to have power channeled in. you cant do reno also....

honestly this is different btw buying from reputable developers vs non reputable developers.
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post Dec 8 2014, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(xiaomantao @ Dec 8 2014, 01:19 PM)
I bought 2 double storey 2 years ago just got my keys, the water meter is installed and tnb yet to apply, developer ask to apply the tnb myself.  This morning my father go and check the water are stuck at all toilet when we start cleaning, that why I am wonder what need to check dun know got any hidden stuff that I miss out,and this developer pass me a complaints form and need to send back to them within 3 days, if not they say wont entertain. I can say the finishing is very very bad ... dun seem a new house  vmad.gif
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Please give more speciifc details on your property.

The way u say, it does not look like a HDA property cos one of conditions for VP with CCC is with water and electricity ready for connection.

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