Cherry MX is the pioneer, whatever using the same technology is duplication.
ALL HAIL Gateron and Kailh.

This post has been edited by DarkSilver: Feb 15 2015, 06:53 PM

LOL, calm down guys. I don't know why you guys are fighting? Have a bad history of one another or something?

It is pretty common to have start using "Gaming" MKBs to begin the journey.
I myself did try some of them too. And, peripherals are more to USER PREFERENCES. Person A can like Corsair, Person B can hate Corsair.

I think dadudeneverabides doesn't like the fact that you listed Ducky as the least of your liking. I can be wrong.
Because generally, without a doubt, Ducky is superior than Razer. Tested and confirmed by a lot of MKB enthusiasts.

By the way, hate CM Storm?
Their latest products are super epic. CM Storm Quickfire Rapid-i(white LED) and CM Storm Novatouch(It's using Topre Switches, BEST in the world...) are the BEST CM Storm offers currently, IMO.
They're using standard layout, solid build quality!

This post has been edited by DarkSilver: Feb 15 2015, 07:03 PM

Ducky should have better typing experiences compared to Razer. But, since it's problematic with your MOBO, ditching it is pretty logic.

And, why you plug in so many KBs at once? LOL.
I am plugging in 2 now, but, I only use one at a time.

A brand start using standard layout, they'll shine!
CM Storm Novatouch is using Topre Switches with Cherry MX Stem, means it's a Topre Switch which is compatible with Cherry MX Keycaps(means universal support).
Unlike standard Topre Switches, they're using Topre Stem, thus, only compatible with Topre Keycaps.

Topre Keyboards(Like Realforce brand) are made in Japan, the quality is superb and the price too is sky high. LOL. Though, they don't have good design.
USD 200+ for one keyboard, having adding tax, oversea courier, and stuffs yet.

This post has been edited by DarkSilver: Feb 15 2015, 08:24 PM

Yea, I know.
But, they're using Topre Switches. I should change my English, I have a very bad English command.

Wow, that's very good looking and VERY EXPENSIVE.

Yea, I know the quality is unparalleled... I just don't like the design of the frame/case.
Too much ROUNDED EDGES, IMO. Taste for design is subjective, some users will find it very pretty.

Yea, but that's considered as 3rd Party Option.
What I mean is the original or default design.

Yes, Topre is one kind of switch only. Deal with it.
And, it's mechanism is quite different compared to Cherry MX counter parts.
If not wrong, it's LINEAR like RED or BLACK but has better or smoother bounce back, and you'll need to press each key deep enough for it to register(but, it won't matter much if you're a MX Black user originally). You can say it's a REFINED version of Cherry MX Red or Black.

Cherry MX switches usually categorized into Tactile and Linear.
Cherry MX Blue, Brown, Grey, White/Clear, Green, etc for TACTILE.
Cherry MX Black, Red, Yellow, etc for LINEAR.

This post has been edited by DarkSilver: Feb 16 2015, 12:21 AM

O-Rings is to reduce the noise. Go for it!
Mix it with MX Brown, you'll most likely achieve Tactile Effect but Noiseless*.

Garage Sales and many MKB members here are selling them too. And, if you think Brown is noisy, you'll think BLUE is someone scream at your ears. LOL.

K70 RGB has very nice software and very good build quality.
Sadly, it's not using STANDARD Layout, that means lesser "Keycap Sets" supports because usually MOST KEYCAP SETS are only compatible with Standard Layout. And, it probably won't look nice with Non-LED enabled Keycaps due to the Switches can be seen at the bottom of the keyboard.
So, I'll suggest you to get those LED enabled Keycaps.

This post has been edited by DarkSilver: Feb 16 2015, 12:26 AM

http://deskthority.net/wiki/Topre_switch
In essence, the Topre switch feels first like a refined rubber dome and second in some ways reminiscent of some mechanical-contact switches such as the Cherry MX Red and Alps SKCM Cream Damped.
The switch action is very smooth, with a tactile bump that you can feel near the top of the stroke. After the bump, the resistance is almost flat, making it difficult to avoid bottoming out. You can not feel the mid-stroke actuation point. It bottoms out distinctly with a "thock" sound.
Some Topre keys are very light, which can lead to unintended key activations; this happens especially on keyboards that have differently weighted switches for different fingers.

In short, it's like Linear(like MX Red which is linear too) with slight Tactile near end of each finishing press.

This post has been edited by DarkSilver: Feb 16 2015, 11:29 AM

One thing you guys should take notice over here is what you guys always said FEELING.
Feeling is vary among everyone.
But as long as it's logical, it's considered OK.
It's OK to tell Cherry MX Brown is Cherry MX Blue minus the clicky. In technical term, it might not be really accurate to put up this statement. But, in real-life testing, it's more or less that way... Tactile.
Unless, you tell like Cherry MX Blue is the same feel as Cherry MX Red, then, it's WRONG. Because one is full linear and another is obvious tactile. It's like driving a LORRY vs Luxury Car.

This post has been edited by DarkSilver: Feb 16 2015, 11:55 AM

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Actually, when you said it's heavy tactile, I quite like it and pretty glad when you said it's a HEAVY TACTILE switch. Because I like tactile. LOL.
Novatouch, given if I have money, I'll buy.

This post has been edited by DarkSilver: Feb 16 2015, 12:15 PM

If LED did die, can RMA or just void the warranty and fix it yourself.
Anyway, I don't know if CM Storm Rapid-i has LED issue or not, my friend is using one and it's perfectly fine.

I would recommend Filco too for this case. Much more modding advantages.

Yea, my friend Ducky Shine 3 has LED failure after days of purchase. But, mine works fine(no LED failure) even for months, then, I sold it off.
After that, I got myself a Razer B. U. Chroma, and it's epic Haihzzz switches... DOUBLE TAPPING issue everywhere. So, RMA it and sold it off again.
Then, get Ducky Shine 4, it's still working until now, no LED died yet. LOL. Hope it won't die now after I say this.
Weeks ago, got myself a Filco Majestouch 2 TKL Camo, quite happy with it.

Sexy pictures!
I like the frame/case that Rapid-i is using. But, sadly, it's RUBBERIZED which is no good if I want to paint on it.

I hope you FULLY READ the stuffs I quoted or link I showed?
In essence, the Topre switch feels first like a refined rubber dome and second in some ways reminiscent of some mechanical-contact switches such as the Cherry MX Red and Alps SKCM Cream Damped.
Source, http://deskthority.net/wiki/Topre_switch

And, I concluded it as "In short, it's like Linear(like MX Red which is linear too) with slight Tactile near end of each finishing press.". At least, on my understanding... quovadis123 thinks it's wrong, so, he corrected me with his experiences.

And, quovadis123 said it's heavy tactile. So, I am glad if it really is heavy tactile because I would like to try it out if possible and I don't like linear.
If Topre is pure linear, I'll stay away from it.

Here,
It's OK to tell Cherry MX Brown is Cherry MX Blue minus the clicky. In technical term, it might not be really accurate to put up this statement. But, in real-life testing, it's more or less that way... Tactile. Both Brown and Blue is TACTILE, am I wrong? YES I AM!!
Unless, you tell like Cherry MX Blue is the same feel as Cherry MX Red, then, it's WRONG. Because one is full linear and another is obvious tactile. It's like driving a LORRY vs Luxury Car. Blue is Tactile, Red is Linear. Or, am I wrong again to do the metaphor?

This post has been edited by DarkSilver: Feb 16 2015, 10:35 PM

I already fixed and posted that, like 11:21AM on 16-2-2015 today.

You asked me where I READ these INFOs... and I showed you. http://deskthority.net/wiki/Topre_switch
I do a lot of postings in this thread and NOT ONLY ONE, so, I suggest you to fully read what I said and replied. I gained experiences from what I read.
So, each posts I do I'll fix whatever I told wrongly in the past.

And, what's wrong with U-Turn? It's not actually a U-Turn here. It's like a teacher corrects you, so, you don't do the mistake again. Eg, you corrected me, so, I know and won't repeat the mistake.
So, for 1st time, it's wrong. 2nd time, it'll be correct.
If I did wrong, and I continue to tell everything wrongly... is that good?

Just because I am new in MKB doesn't mean I don't know what you guys are talking about... where do you think or how do you think I got my Elite tag?

This post has been edited by DarkSilver: Feb 16 2015, 10:49 PM

Bro, you can't earn Elite with tons of posts and stars, FYI.

Anyway, I just post what I've read, if you don't like it or think it's wrong, then I can't stop you from thinking it.
And, I did provide the link/source...
Like I said before they mentioned it as Linear with Tactile Bump at the end of each stroke.
So, I just follow back what they said, because I am not a super professional in MKB.

I always respect people with experiences. But, I don't appreciate mocking and being full of being an enthusiast. No offense.

This post has been edited by DarkSilver: Feb 16 2015, 11:17 PM

Yes, and that's why I said so(just repeating the article), and that's why I said I am wrong right after and agreed with quovadis123.

@ainuddin,
It goes both ways. That's why I said don't underestimate anyone...
People with experiences are not always correct, and people who're new is not always wrong too.
Ranked people are not always correct too, they can be wrong too. But, that doesn't mean their ranks are useless or fake. They do live up to their titles sometime.
Respect each other.

Meanwhile, I don't not really own a Topre MKB, but tested the Novatouch a little in HeavyArm previously. Realforce KBs, I like the quality, but don't like the "look".
Might not be buying it if I want to buy Filco/ONI Aluminium case.

This post has been edited by DarkSilver: Feb 17 2015, 12:17 AM

Seems everyone is buying after CNY.