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post Feb 8 2015, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(captvizcenzo @ Feb 8 2015, 11:16 PM)
It's on the menu?  drool.gif

My picture of the night:
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He brought his MKB and having dinner with it. tongue.gif
Wow, your MKB is epic! Wish I can have all these collections. tongue.gif
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post Feb 8 2015, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Feb 8 2015, 11:21 PM)
Ya.
It's bi-color standard theme.
Refer to below for another example.
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THanks buddy for the confirmation!
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post Feb 9 2015, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Feb 9 2015, 12:44 AM)
KBC Jelly POM looks better. laugh.gif
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I found you guys love FOOD or FRUITY keycaps. Marshmallow...?
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post Feb 9 2015, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Feb 9 2015, 01:27 AM)
Not able to catch your meaning. Care to describe more?
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I mean they looks like so soft, so cute and light in color... rainbow, marshmallow, etc.
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post Feb 9 2015, 02:03 AM

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Marshmallow Keycaps
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post Feb 9 2015, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Feb 9 2015, 10:30 AM)
What if I told you both also don't get? sweat.gif
TK : non-standard layout
Razer: cloned switch (poor reliability) - Razer fans said is cherry compatible not clone or fakes icon_idea.gif

For your budget, I would recommend you Ducky Zero TKL which in your budget.
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Would recommend Ducky Zero TKL too Or Ducky Zero Shine TKL(if want LED)... thumbup.gif
I think a lot of people fall into marketing gimmicks, like Razer(yea, best for gaming which apparently in real-life, it's not).
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post Feb 10 2015, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 10 2015, 03:44 PM)
Bro didnt say want to spend 1k. But that is just the limit. If theres cheaper way to experience that would be awesome.  Researching now.
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If you don't wish to spend so much, I would recommend you to get the BEST VALUE(with LED backlite) ones 1st.
I think LED capable Mechanical Keyboards will suit you more since you're coming from Logitech G19 Keyboard.

The whole point of MKB = Customizable Keycaps, THE FEEL(Tactile or Linear), faster typing speed(confirmed by Linus Tech Tip), and ULTRA DURABILITY!
Some of them don't really offers many extra macro keys... MKB is usually using more standard layout and looks classy.

Moreover, it's better to get standard layout, so, in any case if you want to change or modify stuffs, it'll be easier. More compatibility. smile.gif

Best Value LED MKBs:
CM Storm Rapid-i TKL(Recommended)
CM Storm QuickFire Pro TKL/Full Layout
Ducky Zero Shine TKL/Full Layout


Got more money? Want to buy better ones, those with more features?
Try:
Ducky Shine 4(Recommended)
Ducky Legend(Recommended)
Corsair K70 RGB
Corsair K95 RGB
Razer Blackwidow Ultimate Chroma(Not Cherry MX Mechanical Switch, but Kailh China Mechanical Switch)
Logitech G710 Plus

TKL = Tenkeyless, which means NO NUMPAD.
Full Layout = Full Length Standard Keyboard Layout

If you want a more traditional look(VINTAGE looking and NO LED), you can look for:
Filco Majestouch 2
Filco Majestouch 2 TKL
Filco Majestouch 2 Ninja
Filco Majestouch 2 Ninja TKL
Ducky Zero
Ducky Zero TKL
Ducky Premier

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post Feb 11 2015, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Feb 11 2015, 02:04 AM)
at first page i saw ppl recommend
Keycool 87 LED but i search taobao it say is kaith switches right?
correct me if i am wrong
actually i just know ori is mx switches am i right?
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Newer generations KEYCOOL are all using Kailh Mechanical Switches if I am not wrong.

But, I think Kailh is quite OK too. It's very budget friendly. thumbup.gif
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post Feb 11 2015, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Feb 11 2015, 02:22 AM)
cause new on it
what i heard all recommend cherry mx cause is original
kaith is china
for mkb budget 350 should i go for Zero DK2108S or
tkl series keyboard
finding mkb have multimedia function like keycool XD
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Multimedia you mean like adjusting volume? If it's this feature, Ducky keyboards have these functions too. You just need to press Fn + "Specific Key". And, some Ducky Keyboards do have extra macro keys for Calculator, Email, My Computer, etc.
RM 350 budget?
I'll recommend Ducky Zero Shine to you. Solid quality and durability with nice LEDs. thumbup.gif

Tossing my extra Poker II RGB Modifiers and Black Blank Spacebar to my Ducky Shine 4 while waiting for my IMSTO Blue Blank Keycaps Set to reach tongue.gif .
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post Feb 11 2015, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 11 2015, 02:35 PM)
What u guys mean by factory?
So das is factory??
Wasd??
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I think by factory keyboard they mean "A keyboard which ready to use when purchased".
By Custom Keyboard, I think they mean a keyboard which being constructed manually part by part by yourself.

DAS keyboard is one of the best around. Would recommend it. But, it lacks LED. Take note for this. If you don't care about LED, you can go for it.

Still, I'll pick Ducky, Filco and CM Storm over DAS. They have a more general layout which is good for modification later if needed.

Razer is bad even with Cherry MX(their current or newer generations are Kailh).
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post Feb 11 2015, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(HoNeYdEwBoY @ Feb 11 2015, 06:30 PM)
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You meant something like this ? Honestly I still prefer using Cherry MX. This Tesoro keyboard I'm using the W key got problem, keep double output or maybe triple.
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Kailh Switches, that's a known problem I guess.
My previous Razer Blackwidow Ultimate Chroma is using Razer Switches(Made by Kailh), and, I have several keys double-tapping(double output) problem too. sweat.gif Though, I sent it to Warranty/RMA, and they instantly give me 1-on-1 exchange. smile.gif

The difference of feeling for Kailh and Cherry MX is minimal. I don't feel there's a huge gap of difference between them. But, quality, you're talking about Germany vs China. LOL.

Other than this, I also found out the feeling and actuation point of my Ducky Shine 4 and Filco Majestouch 2 TKL is different. Both of them are using Cherry MX Blue Switches.
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post Feb 11 2015, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Feb 11 2015, 06:46 PM)
oh can say is about luck ?
now one of the mkb catch on my eye is
Quick Fire TK Mechanical Gaming Keyboard White blue switches
or quickfire ultimate blue switches

but for these 2 mkb can i change keycap next time ?
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Would definitely NOT recommend Non-Standard Layout MKB.
Simply not good for many reasons.
The main one will be keycaps choices.

I would recommend CM Storm Quickfire Rapid-i over it. Very good quality and layout and nice lighting effects! thumbup.gif
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post Feb 11 2015, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Feb 11 2015, 08:00 PM)
haha
filco look traditional keyboard XD
correct me if i am wrong
i saw deck look nice but 4xx over my budget
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i think to get ultimate and change the pbs keycap from ikbc
why?
it is not all mechanical keyboard layout are standard ?
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Filco, Topre(Realforce, meh, they're mostly not Cherry MX keycaps compatible LOL, but the layout is standard), CM Storm(in some models) and Ducky(in most models) usually have more traditional layout aka the standard layout compared to Corsair, Logitech, etc.

NOT all mechanical keyboards are using standard layout. There's a lot of them using their own layouts.
For instances(special layout):
CM Storm Quickfire TK
Corsair K95
Corsair K70
Madcatz STRIKE 7 or 5, etc
Logitech G710+


Due to their own special layouts, that'll mean there's no much compatibility for 3rd party keycaps set to put in.
Imagine, if some keys are broken, or the keycaps worn off or become shinny. You can't replace them.

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post Feb 11 2015, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(Powet @ Feb 11 2015, 09:38 PM)
For the last paragraph, maybe because of cherry and costar stabilizer ? *not sure if I spelled wrong or not doh.gif
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I suppose Stabilizers only apply to a few keys on the keyboards such as SHIFT, Spacebar, Backspace, etc.
So, the differences should only be affected on these specific keys.
But, the differences apply to all keys on both keyboards. Thus, I guess it's not the stabilizers issue. tongue.gif

And, I find Cherry Stabilizer better than Costar though. tongue.gif
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post Feb 11 2015, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Feb 11 2015, 10:43 PM)
wow like that
mind i know
cm quickfire ultimate and cm rapid i
is it standard layout?XD
get attract by these 2 now
ducky i ok de
but it like less multimedia key like play,pause
it may be useful for me ^^
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CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate is not using standard layout.
CM Storm QuickFire Rapid-i is using standard layout and does come with F-Media Keys.

CM Storm QuickFire Rapid(WITHOUT "i") does have those "play, pause, etc, the MULTI MEDIA KEYS"... But it doesn't have LED backlite.

CM Storm Trigger Z is using standard layout although with extra 5 buttons(which is compatible with standard keycaps) on the left.

CM Storm QuickFire Stealth, Stealth XT, XT, Rapid, Rapid-i are all standard.

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post Feb 11 2015, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 11 2015, 11:07 PM)
hmm logitech g910 looks sweet.
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Yes, very nice look... though, I won't buy it.

Claiming from reviews, SHARP POINTY KEYCAPS of this keyboard are cutting your fingers.
And, it's using standard layout with tons of extra keys(too much and all difference sizes).

Also, don't forgot it's using Logitech's own switches, Romer-G. It claimed to be better and more durable.
But, this switch is not using the general or universal mechanical keycaps(Cherry MX Stem) socket. So, say good bye to all keycaps you can find on the market directly.
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QUOTE(silrave @ Feb 11 2015, 11:11 PM)
omg
thx for answer
haiz i think rapid-i , trigger z over budget><
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Yes, Rapid-i definitely the best choice you have considering you want the "MEDIA KEYS THINGY". tongue.gif

If not, then, you can pick others like Ducky Zero Shine, Filco Majestouch 2 TKL(Filco got no LED backlite for all their stuffs, facepalm), etc.

In here, usually, you'll find "you can't go wrong with Ducky" and "you can't go wrong with Filco". Their quality is assured.
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post Feb 12 2015, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(cloud8992 @ Feb 11 2015, 11:48 PM)
dude your question are all very silly. 1st question you ask can change pbt after led spoil ?
LOL. you can change any keycaps even the led is not broken. leds is just lights nothing to do with keycap's fitting.
2nd of all keyboard is still keyboard no matter the brand. any defect just send to warranty.just some brands have better QC that's all even filco or ducky can have defect.
if you question is CM storm Rapid-I a good keyboard it is a solid keyboard and good all round features.
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You just said whatever I wanna say. LOL. Indeed.
Some brands are having better QC. Some brands aren't, you know, Razer. tongue.gif

CM Storm Rapid-i is one of the best and cheap LED MKB in the market now. Solid rubber finish base, and shinny white LED backlite. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ntw @ Feb 12 2015, 12:10 AM)
different actuation point on DS4 and MJ2? have u tried typing on both of them using the same keyset? i can only guess the difference in stock keycap heigh/construction might be causing this. but then again, different overall build quality might affect the typing feel though.

"with mechanical keyboard, it's all about feel"
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I tested them using their very own default keycaps.
I don't think it's keycaps related. More like Cherry MX batches related.
Maybe my DS4 is using Batches Cherry MX Blue Switches which have slightly stronger actuation point...

Due to having harder/stronger actuation point, I like my Filco typing feel more. No need to press so hard. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(silrave @ Feb 12 2015, 01:06 AM)
go there just a gal only
oh this but is only mx red o
i wan mx blue ><
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Ducky Shine 3 is usually RM 4XX generally. So, if you want a BLUE switches one, it'll probably be RM 4XX(only RED switches has the promotion).
Ducky Zero Shine is RM 3XX by default.
CM Storm Rapid-i is RM 3XX by default.

I'll go for Rapid-i due to removable USB cable and the cable is BRAIDED.

Until now, Ducky and Filco is still using generic plastic cable... and all other brands are using BRAIDED cables already. I am MAD about this!!

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