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arza04
post Dec 8 2015, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(nevland @ Dec 8 2015, 09:09 AM)
it seems nobody here ever change the CVT Fluid-Punch Transmission?
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Already changed mine. But i do outside sc because out of warranty. 5 liter of cvt fluid and i didnt replace the filter. Rm200+-
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post Dec 8 2015, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(ir5 @ Dec 8 2015, 03:44 PM)
bro, where u service ur Exora Bold CFE? Any recommended worksyop? SC over priced i think...
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Zordaq workshop in Subang.

Shiawase service and EME mechanic near my house and already more than 4 years dealing with them.
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post Dec 8 2015, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(ir5 @ Dec 8 2015, 05:26 PM)
how's the service at Zordaq bro?tip top? they well known/expert in our Campro CFE turbo engine? price wise? reasonable?
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They are macam specialist for campro engine. Campro, iafm, cps, cfe all can
Price normal lah, reasonable.
Service tiptop. I went there last time to change cvt fluid, air filter, valve cover gasket, engine oil&filter change and replace fuel filter. Rm550+-

But one thing, weekend to many people. Better leave the car and comeback when its done

If u look closely at R3 proton car, u can see Zordaq name brows.gif

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post Dec 22 2015, 07:47 PM

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Hi guys

My abs light is on since yesterday. But when i restart the engine the abs light is off and will on back at random time while driving.

So warranty already over many months ago, i clean the abs sensor myself ( it is not much dirt anyway) . I drive to test the car and abs light still on. But this time I try to jam the brake all the way and car never skids ( i did for 3 times to confirm ) which means abs still work while the light is on hmm.gif .

So i scan my obd reader and these 3 fault codes comes out

U1017 - no data online, maybe it is Proton specific code, most likely is the ABS code
P005E - Boost controller low voltage ( thats explain my sky high fc, 13.2l/100km ) sad.gif
P1401 - Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) valve rclxub.gif

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post Dec 22 2015, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(YouDontKnowMyName @ Dec 22 2015, 08:58 PM)
Again?   shakehead.gif
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Yea abs second time. First time was on 28000km+- Now 68000km
Hopefully only sensor problem, cheap to replace wink.gif

Tmr will go workshop and hook up with their more sophisticated ecu scanner for more detail of the error code

What weird is so far no Check Engine Light on, maybe the error code not too serious problem?? But my FC is so bad sad.gif

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post Dec 22 2015, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(tehsarbat @ Dec 22 2015, 10:03 PM)
where to? isit ZODAQ? i got an appointment there tomorrow at 10 to do my 60K service and some check-up. maybe can see u there. wave.gif
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No lah, go to workshop near my home area only. I only go zordaq if wants to do major stuff related to cfe/cvt
Trying to diagnose ecu and settle the abs first, maybe the abs pump need to bleed out air sweat.gif
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post Dec 23 2015, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(mat_tepets @ Dec 23 2015, 09:55 AM)
U1017: CAN WHEEL SPEED ERROR FRONT RIGHT
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Woa, thanks bro! Last time also my abs light on because of this sensor.

QUOTE(alexei @ Dec 23 2015, 10:10 AM)
My fault codes are:
U1016 - Network. No data online.
P005D - Powertrain: Generic DTC: "B" Camshaft Profile Control Stuck On
P1401 - Powertrain: Could be anything

When sending to SC using the Proton OBD, none of the above showed up. Only ABS front left sensor, and improper shutdown.

arza04YouDontKnowMyNameAlso, do you mind sharing the items you monitor in your App?
I only have Voltage (Control Module), Coolant temp, Boost (psi), Timing Advance, Intake Temp, and Emission Readiness since DTC clear.
For the Emission Readiness, there are currently 3 items listed as "Incomplete". Can you see if yours is like that also?

mat_tepetsDo you have the list of Proton OBD codes?  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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P005D also i hav last time, but now its gone already.
So no wonder la no Check Engine Light on, so no need to worry about other code already. I believe in proton obd more
My emission readiness also 3 items incomplete. There is a way to make it all complete. You must drive follow certain conditions set by the manufacturer

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This week very bad luck with my EB, this morning i want to reverse but the CVT light is on for the first time. The car will not move as if it is still in Neutral rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
Had to restart the engine

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post Dec 23 2015, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(mat_tepets @ Dec 23 2015, 12:19 PM)
U1016: CAN WHEEL SPEED ERROR FRONT LEFT
U1017: CAN WHEEL SPEED ERROR FRONT RIGHT
U1018: CAN WHEEL SPEED ERROR REAR LEFT 
U1019: CAN WHEEL SPEED ERROR REAR RIGHT
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This one should be include in first page! So useful for members here thumbup.gif

QUOTE(alexei @ Dec 23 2015, 02:44 PM)
mat_tepetsThanks.

arza04I worry that you have same brake pump problem like mine. Under warranty, they told me that they ordered master brake pump.

In Torque, what readings do you get for EvapP? On EvapP, I found more info. Read below.

My guess is, on certain fuel brands, the rate of EVAP activation is high, meaning a lot of fuel vapor to dispose.
I read up on Shell vs Petronas RON95 last time, and it seems Shell one has higher volume loss at 45C compared to Petronas. My guess is this could be one of the factor for different FC between fuel brands.
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Cant remember the readings. I seldom use the obd app tongue.gif
How much is brake pump? my warranty over cry.gif
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post Jan 2 2016, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jan 1 2016, 04:23 PM)
the 1.3 CFE manual only for Overseas market @ the moment.. no plan for Malaysia yet..

Went to COE for a quick test drive on Manual 1.6 Manual CFE Suprima.. that thing drive fast.. thanks to the close ratio 6 speed gearbox..
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1.6 cfe manual 0-100 how many second? drool.gif

Got below 8s?
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post Jan 2 2016, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jan 2 2016, 06:09 PM)
Hi,
Anyone having issues with their SAT button?
Mine after turning off the SAT mode, it will jump to D then S then D again. Gua takut switch problem, and i think my warranty is over (mine is 2014 batch).
HoweveR it doesnt flicker all the time. Once in a while it jumps between D & S after switching off.

I sometimes switch to SAT mode cause i want to cruise in lower revs - save petrol.

Not easy to drive lower rev with normal mode and above 70km/h. Need very feather foot to tame the turbo beast.
I have a feeling Proton tuned it to be aggressive most of the time. Correc me if i am wrong.

Otherwise touchwood, car drives well  smile.gif
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Long time ago got few cases like you. I dont know whats the cause
Cant remember when the last time i press that button hahaha


QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jan 2 2016, 06:20 PM)
X ada ukur la bang.. however my butt dyno said it fast..  drool.gif
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Nice thumbup.gif later suprima manual can cucuk type R haha
7000 rpm rev limit? smile.gif
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post Jan 7 2016, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(carloompunk @ Jan 7 2016, 12:39 PM)
need help here..
my exora bold cfe 2015 steering bias to the left /stering lari berat ke kiri
hv done many time alignment at SC and also tyre shop cannot solve.
now my exora is at jalan pahang SC. left they from yesterday hopefully they can solve the prob. SC call bagitau kereta dah siap. they just do alignment again. can anyone help me on this. i ask to check steering related part and the rear axle but they on do alignment. after lunch will go to SC again. susah la SC proton kene tinggal ofis and ambek cuti utk cek kereta.
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is like that one

Got to do with steering rack free play
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post Jan 14 2016, 08:02 PM

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Talking about tyre. If anyone here who have (used few months/fairly new) stock tyre Champiro Bax 2 can offer me. Need 2 pieces only to replace my front tyres. location kl
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QUOTE(brotan @ Jan 25 2016, 01:58 PM)
Is that the anti break system? Normal car workshop can do?
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Scan the ecu and get the error code first

Abs sensor code
U1016: CAN WHEEL SPEED ERROR FRONT LEFT
U1017: CAN WHEEL SPEED ERROR FRONT RIGHT
U1018: CAN WHEEL SPEED ERROR REAR LEFT
U1019: CAN WHEEL SPEED ERROR REAR RIGHT
Credit to mat_tepets

You can diy to clean the abs sensor first. Very easy. Just remove the wheel and you will see one wire that lead to the sensor. Remove the sensor by undo the one and only 10mm bolt. Clean the dirt on the sensor and install everything back.

My abs light gone after two days driving after cleaning the sensor. So many dirt.

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QUOTE(brotan @ Jan 25 2016, 08:29 PM)
how to scan the ecu?
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Buy one of these bro! Can get as low as rm30 online. You able to read your ecu parameter and generic error code.
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Also can scan ecu at shop, normally rm30 per scan which is quite expensive sweat.gif


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QUOTE(riezzien @ Jan 25 2016, 06:38 PM)
How do u clean it?
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I use isopropyl alcohol, other cleaner also can. Just wipe normally until clean
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QUOTE(brotan @ Jan 25 2016, 08:52 PM)
thanks for the tip

what's the keyword i should use to search it?
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ELM327 / obd2 reader
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post Jan 26 2016, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(syetab1212 @ Jan 26 2016, 05:18 PM)
Hi Yall

I have recently made up my mind for EB Executive. At proton showroom, SA said if i buy 2015 model i am entitled for RM 2061 REBATE biggrin.gif  but if i take 2016 EB then No rebates at all mad.gif

So what you all experts suggest? should i go for 2015 or one shot settle for the new version.

Any notable differences internally/externally or just the year difference.
Appreciate a reply

P/S: Please add me to the thread  brows.gif
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Cancel fast2. Cfe(exora bold, preve, suprima) engine prone to engine oil burst and leak due to fail design of oil cooling hose.

Any owner or potential owner can join fb group name ' (Proton) cfe & cvt technical discussion'. Almost everyday got post engine bocor.

I myself kena at 48000km, 1 and half year ago. Till this date, proton didnt come out with any solution.

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QUOTE(tehsarbat @ Jan 26 2016, 10:55 PM)
is this still an issue? last time mines was  recalled and they did replaced it during my 40K service although there's no sign of any leakage, and so far its in good condition. btw mines was the 2011 batches. hmm.gif
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post Jan 27 2016, 08:42 AM

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The cost to replace this oil cooler is rm700++ incl installation. Proton so far suggest to change every 40,000km. What the hell? It shouldn't be wear and tear part.

When the hose burst during driving the car, you wont notice until the engine sounds rough and got white smoke. By that time its too late coz your engine already wear from the inside.

Like my exora bold right now, after fix the oil cooler my engine already sounds almost like lorry-diesel engine (yes that bad, and proton dont even entertain my complaint and say its normal) coz engine internal already worn. If i kena the second time, confirm need to do full overhaul job

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QUOTE(YouDontKnowMyName @ Jan 27 2016, 09:20 AM)
So what can we do to ensure this doesn't happen? Also what are the common symptoms.

Please do enlighten us. It would be greatly appreciated smile.gif
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It burst when it want to burst. No symptoms.

For some cases if lucky you can see the oil hose cooler already covered in oil, then need to replace before it burst. Oil cooler located near the alternator and engine oil filter. You cant see from the top. Need to crawl down under the car. And the particular hose that burst cannot be seen from below, need to use mirror or camera because the hose is located on the upper side of the oil cooler.

One user share his story. His oil hose burst, sent to SC to replace the hose. After 2 days it burst again.

It is very unpredictable. Some owner already more than 100, 000 km but havent burst yet. New owner 20,000km also ada yang kena

How to avoid?
So far no permanent solution yet. Some owner already change to hydraulic hose, some already change to aftermarket oil cooler.

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