Through the cadet pilot selection process.
You might have advantages but seriously, not much point.
Self sponsor only if you are ready to take on general aviation.

Sorry,just now iwas eating pineapple, typing with one hand,so wasnt able to write much.
Now i am eating lunch

Back to the topic. I am not sure whether its rare case or not, but I did saw someone with fresh frozen ATPL hired by SQ.

You got the point, but i think if we keep waiting airline's cadet pilot programme, why dont we self sponsor, and then find a general aviation airport and gain up 500 hours and then we will get the requirement of most airlines.

I got a noob question:
After cadet pilot get thier frozen atpl, they will still continue thier lesson provided by thier own airline. So do a direct entry pilot with low flying hour need to have the lesson too?

Please correct my mistakes.

This post has been edited by akira de aimbuster: Apr 5 2006, 03:30 PM

sure they need. depends on which aircraft rating of them

OK...

i was thinking of getting into MFA.. but i only manage to get a space in HMA. so no choice...

and yes... it may be difficult for Self-sponsored pilots to get airline job...
but if other people have done it, WHY NOT?


and for SQ.. they only recognise license from MASSEY University, MFA(i'm not sure), now if u have your own license , you cannot Join SQ as direct entry pilot(because you only have like 200 hours), HOWEVER.... for all the low hours pilot who do not meet their direct entry requirements, you can apply to join SQ via CADET Pilot route with your license. If u get choosen, and they recognise your LICENSE.... you can jump striaght into LEARJET Training, and then your type rating training, while those without license will have to start form scratch..... THIS can only be done if SQ recognises your flying school, CHECK WITH THEM.

I've heard a SIMILAR story from MAS. This guy was FED-UP waiting for MAS to call him up, he entered HMA. halfway through, MAS called him up for selection.. he pass all the stages. He END up with MAS. but the difference is, he still pay for his training, but he sign BONDs with MAS for his 737 T/R Training. after all the training, he go straight into 737. Normally, cadet will have to sign 15 years bond, but this person signs a much shorter one because MAS only pays for his 737 type rating.

Getting CPL/IR on your own is a much harder way to be a pilot if compared to CADET Pilot.... but if people have done it.. WHY NOT?

Don't expect to sit in 737 once u come out... you may have to work harder.. such as becoming a flight instructor at local flying clubs until you get 1500 hours (of which you will be granted a FULL-ATPL)

i'm not a Pilot yet... and don't even have my license.....

but my advice is... IF u REALLY WANT IT.. WORK HARD FOR IT.....

I believe in one thing.. SHEER DETERMINATION Without Giving UP Will get YOU THERE.

Good Luck to all Future Aviators.

This post has been edited by fillet: Apr 5 2006, 08:11 PM

agree..!!
anyway, last time before the singapore flying college is set up in singapore, SQ does sent their cadet to MFA.
why SQ don't recognize m'sia license,
because of the regulations and rules at singapore civil aviation department is differnt with m'sia. Just like DCA msia/sgp don't recognize AUST./ other countries IR and ATPL.
For HMA is just esthablised and if u r looking for flyer job at oversea airlines such as china/hk, better go to aust.

This post has been edited by teddie: Apr 5 2006, 08:51 PM

Anyone got called up by MAS already?

They froze all cadet recruitment.
HR said they havent receive official order to stop recruitment and so the psychomotor and psychometric tests are still ongoing. The MISPA results is with flight operations since last December and they are still waiting notice from Idris Jala.

Just ask any pilot in MAS and they will tell you that MAS is having surplus of pilots mainly due to cut down of domestical routes.

This post has been edited by DeathWing: Apr 10 2006, 11:36 PM

hi,
i just got back from the SIA first interview.

here's my experience:
the interviewers consist of 2 persons. one from the HR and one is the Captain. they are very nice people and friendly.

basically before you go for the interview, you need to do research first on SIA company and the fleet. from there, you expand to learn more about the flying principles, air plane parts and then the types of airplanes+engines+purpose. it is good to know all these things because those will be asked in the interview.

the standard questions are why you want to be pilot, some eduaction backgrounds and then comes the tough part where the Captain will grill you on airplane questions (first question will be what types of fleet SIA has).he will test you how well you know. from there, he will expand and deepen his questions like what types of engines used, thrust of engines, difference between plane models and the final part is how does an airplane part (rudder, aileron, elevators) work and how does an airplane flies.

good lucks to the coming batches of interviewees. hope the info above helps.

i will know the results in 2-3 weeks time. i will share more here when time comes. till then...happy flying and landing

Good Luck to you hoongji

good for you.. SIA called you up... i submitted in febuary.. till now no news..!!!!


guess my only hope is to wait for my HMA to start..

Hehe, I wanted to become a pilot when I was small. During 12 years old, our school had medical checkup and I was the only one who cannot see the numbers on the colour plate. Did not give up hope as I read articles who managed to become pilot even with slight deficiency. Now, wearing spectacles (double wham). *cries*

Good luck to all who becomes a pilot, it is a career not sought by many. One of the biggest downsides of a pilot is their flying schedule. You can have holidays on the weekdays (Tuesday, Wednesday) and fly on a weekend or vice versa. Pilots know no public holidays, so be prepared to celebrate some festivals 30,000 feet above sea level.

GOGO SIA!
Provided you dont sound arrogant and answer to the point, you should be able to clear 1st interview easily.
Prepare to be thoroughly grilled in the second interview though.

yes...arrogant is definitely a no-no. the captain will shoot your ego down.

i was really lucky today that the captain has been smiling and friendly to me throughout the whole interview.

just a question though: is that normal for the HR to read out the salary, training allowance, repayment, bond and other stuffs during the interview?

Yeap, for you to understand the cadet pilot training program completely.
You'll be given more info when you reach Singapore.

Dude, I've a feeling we will meet in the near future.

are you in SQ now?

Nine...

don't give up... go get a medical done.. if the doctor clears you.... then all SMILES !!

if u fail the colour plate... u can do Fansworth Lantern Test.. if u fail... i think the next one is Neil Bagel something..

DeathWing, hongji good luck to both of you

i wasn't called up for SIA...

still waiting for my MISPA results.....

my training gonna start soon, money from parent's pocket....
hongji deathwing, does u all have a Degree??? becuase i only applied with

SPM and australia Year-12(equiv to a-lvls)

This post has been edited by fillet: Apr 23 2006, 08:26 PM

Yea,
Very busy life, Im sure you wont be able to spam in lowyat anymore.
Anyway, SIA is very very choosy, and they have marks for everything, the entire interview process will do well to assess your personality. And for second round, expect provocative chief pilots, not friendly pilots.
The intakes now are still planned for the expanding triple seven fleet I think. Those 300ERs will be finger licking good

@fillet, the real minimum requirement should be degree holders (Singaporean diploma holders with RSAF experience might get through) as for now. As quoted from the HR dude, "it's for your own good". Dont rely on MAS, I personally know quite a number of Malaysians who applied for both MAS and SIA but MAS took their own sweet time, and thanks to that, we're all in SIA. I suggest you do your degree first before attempting anything, piloting career is simply too volatile.

This post has been edited by DeathWing: Apr 23 2006, 08:36 PM

hmm.... well..

i've already had plan for langkawi flight school....

i'm going into the May intake........confirmed.......

i though of degree...... but i don't really have the heart to do degree.......

i took a gamble and enroll into flight school.......

i know a few guys who did it on their own and got into Airline..... and i am taking the same gamble....

i had my Eyes on AirAsia or Instructing at local club.....


well... now is the golden moment because there is a shortage of pilots in China, Air Asia, India... ... i don't want to miss the ship and wait for another round of shortage...... that's why i decided to take a gamble and not go for degree...

This post has been edited by fillet: Apr 23 2006, 10:24 PM

so are you in Selatar or in Jandakot at the moment? i do hope we can meet in the future.

I still got a little bit of flame left for piloting. How and where do I get these clearance from doctor? What are the fees and procedures? Then again, I have spectacles (amblyopic, meaning 1 eye perfect vision, 1 eye cacat). The chances still slim, got better chance striking 5th prize Toto. Haha.