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PaulKong
post Sep 12 2015, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Sep 11 2015, 07:51 PM)
my friends used the kenda kriterium 1 ยน/8. its a good tyre and a bit comfort compare to durano.the problem with kenda is the tyre side wall are rather soft (for that model).3 of my friend had that same problem.well, for that name i think u can agree that race tyre aren't good for long used.

same goes for panaracer
its a good tyre with more grip, soft and comfort a bit compare to durano.but the tyre wont last long as the rubber as so soft as i can rated around below 1000km ride only.

i had used few tyre on my foldies such as schwalbe durano, kojak and also marathon racer.kenda kwest and panaracer as well..u had to determine what tyre u want to used.if comfort is priority than speed had to been sacrifice and ssme does visa versa..

currently im using durano on my tern, marathon on my speed and kwest on my fnhon.

just my 2 cents
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post Sep 12 2015, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Sep 12 2015, 02:47 PM)
Do you understand the workings of a chain block? You know, when the car mechanic is taking out the engine from the car, they hang it on a chain mechanism. With light effort you can raise the heavy engine and lower it down as well. Same principle as the bicycle gearings.

If one turn from the front turns one turn at the back, that's 1 : 1 ratio. Usually the normal bike is 1 : 4 , meaning one turn of the pedal is 4 turns of the wheels behind. This is easy on a flat road.

What happens if you hit a slope and you can't seem to turn the pedals? That's where the gears comes in. We lower the gear, that is one turn from the pedal, turns only half the normal at the wheel. This makes pedalling easier but shorter distance. And if you go higher slopes, you lower your gear even more, making it one turn of the pedal and only one turn at the rear, making ratio 1 : 1 and this makes it even easier to pedal up the slope. So to summarize, the lesser the rear turns at one revolution of the pedals or cranks, we call it, the lower the gear and the easier it is to pedal. BUT if you use this setting on a flat road, the effort is so light that you will be free wheeling like a dog swimming.

For a road bike, the lowest gear is 1 : 1.39 ratio but in some instances, different cassette it goes to 1 : 1.3. This is the standard road bike crank lah! laugh.gif  There's another type called compact crank which is smaller which makes the ratio go a little bit more lower.

For a mountain bike, the lowest gear is 1 : 0.6 and now with the latest 11 speed from the Shimano XT and XTR it goes even further down to 1 : 0.55. That's how low the mountain bike can go. The front crank's chainring is smaller than the rear.  tongue.gif

Hope I answered it in the simplest way.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 16 2015, 08:46 AM

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Good morning everyone!

Here's my new addition to my folding bike. A folding mini velo (dahon dash p18) ๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„

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post Sep 16 2015, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(kllam @ Sep 16 2015, 11:15 AM)
nice bike!

i always like the Dahon Dash but this model is not selling anymore adn the new Dash D18 looks too small compare to this
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The new dahon dash should be same size. Both are M size. It just that now dash d18 are selling at RM 3200. A drastic increase of price compare to last year dash p18.
I got this bike from a owner who practically didn't ride much on this bike but have upgraded the necessary shortcoming of this dahon dash p18.
First is the stem which uses flakpat technology which he claim to be squeaking and also heavy. So he change the stem and the handle bar to a lighter one ( argon stem and kcmc bone handlebar)
Mechanical disk brake that was originally in dahon dash p18 are problematic, but didn't ask much about that. He change it to a hydraulic brake with double piston caliper. It's a shimano deore.
He also change the rd to shimano slx
What really sold me is the customised aluminium mudguards. It's really retro. ๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„
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post Sep 16 2015, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Sep 16 2015, 12:36 PM)
Nice!

May it not be your last addition  rclxms.gif

Those are 451s ya?  How heavy is the bike roughly?
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Yup.. Those wheels are 451 but originally dash are also equipped with 451 as well. This wheelset, I gatal gatal change it because of the sound. It's loud. ๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„
I've weigh the bike, it's around sightly over 12kg with a spare tube, co2 pump, light and bag. Not inclusive the water bottle ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜
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post Sep 17 2015, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Sep 17 2015, 12:14 AM)
I think the Deore brakes are single piston. Both mine and wife's MTBs are using it. The only double piston brake calipers  by Shimano is the Saint which are mainly used in downhill bikes. Double pistons means 4 pistons, two on each side. Once you take out the brake pads, you can see more clearly. Double pistons works such a way the the 2 smaller pistons will touch the rotors first before the 2 main pistons clamps in for better modulation.

How's the folding of the brake hydraulic hose? Better be cautious when you fold as the hose don't bend as much as the conventional cable type housing.  Happy riding with your new possession. The Dahon Dash is a fine workhorse.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks for your explanation on the hydraulic brake. I thought when two caliper moves, it's called twin piston. As for java fit, only one side of the caliper moves.
I've pay attention to the way the hydraulic cables fold, it looks OK. Hopefully it can last.
The rd cable is the one worry me, it pull long after fold and when unfold, the cable doesn't go back in place, have to push it back in position.
I've see the new dahon dash routing for the rd cable goes thru top tube instead of bottom tube. Maybe they realise the problem.
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post Sep 17 2015, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(kllam @ Sep 17 2015, 09:11 AM)
i saw the bike on sale too, but current got other things to mod. i did try the new Dash D18 and it feel smaller the Dash P18

for hydraulic brake, it's not advisable to fold the brake hose, the same is with cars and motorcycle, the bent cause by the fold will effect the brakes in long run and the folded area might crack
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The front brake should have no problem cause it doesn't fold, it just the back brakes cable. Will pay attention to the folding area.
Thanks for the advice
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post Sep 17 2015, 04:05 PM

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Etigge,
May I know where can I find machineering shop that can fabricate this aluminium clip. It fell off my fender ๐Ÿ˜ฅ๐Ÿ˜ฅ๐Ÿ˜ฅ


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post Sep 17 2015, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Sep 17 2015, 06:25 PM)
Our CNC foundries are not really fond of doing small jobs like this. There's a Malay guy, Zalee is his name. He is always around My Bike Shop in Bandar Utama. If you can locate him, maybe he can help you out. He used to dabble in model helicopters and have lots of contacts regarding powder coating, CNC stuffs and metal anodizing. Maybe he can help you.

Another option is to fabricate using nylon which can be sanded, cut and modelled using normal tools, even glued. I think it is not hard to actually fabricate. Take a picture of the actual component that has dropped off. You still have another sample right, either front or back. Only after looking , I can give an opinion.

PS/Looking at the enlarged picture, I don't think it is hard to make one. Maybe you can bring the sample to me and I can do it.
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Here's a few pictures to show how it looks like. Thanks for your help. Really appreciate it.


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post Sep 17 2015, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Sep 17 2015, 06:33 PM)
Paul

What about using this sort of stay? I'm sure a slight mod will fit. Much easier than fabricating?
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Where to get this?
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post Sep 19 2015, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(dav668 @ Sep 19 2015, 10:53 AM)
Thanks for your prompt response. Yes, i am going to use it for leisure ride...some parks and could be FRIM occasionally...
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Frim not easy to ride. It's hilly ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜
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post Sep 19 2015, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(dav668 @ Sep 19 2015, 02:31 PM)
Ha.. it is true. Thats why only occasionally. Ride for leisure but preferably aluminium or alloy frame.

TRS 2025
Raleigh Wrengler (no stock everywhere)

Any other model which is about this range that worth to go?

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post Sep 20 2015, 11:26 AM

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Good morning everyone!

Greetings from KL car free day ๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„


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post Sep 20 2015, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Sep 20 2015, 10:55 AM)
happy holiday everyone, dont forget to get some workout with ur bike!

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post Sep 20 2015, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(kllam @ Sep 20 2015, 03:09 PM)
Wanted to go this morning but end up going to genting sempah
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Wah... Genting sempah. Actually, I want to know, how hard is the ride there? Are there only one route or there are easy, medium and hard route ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜
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post Sep 21 2015, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(rkhairulrijal @ Sep 21 2015, 12:31 AM)
Genting Sempah
Distance: 30km ++ 1loop (from Hospital Orang Asli Gombak) (15km uphill)
1,500m elevation gain.
Route - medium albeit few steep climbs
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post Sep 21 2015, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Sep 21 2015, 11:58 AM)
Genting Sempah (GS), to those who usually rides, is a one way up and one way down. It's 16 kilometers to where most usually turn back. The moment you start, it will climb very gradually and then past the 4th kilometers the inclination gets steeper and thenon the last two kilometers, it gets even steeper. So, it all climb! Then after resting, it's all the way down to the car park. Going down is even more dangerous, especially at the bridge, where there are gaps on the road. That answered, it is only one mode " medium/hard ".

In GS, you ride 16 kilometers to an elevation of approximately 634 meters ASL. Many riders after getting seasoned with the route, they will continue down to McDonalds (where the actual GS is) and then ride back UP rclxub.gif Many roadbikers continue to Janda Baik and even Bentong.

In contrast, Genting Peras (GP) is actually easier or harder , depending on your riding style. In GP, you usually start from the 18th mile Ulu Langat police station. Then it is a 12 kilometer flattish ride, gaining an elevation of 130 meters over 12 kilometers. Quite easy actually. Many riders likes to ride here as the road is cleaner, air is fresher and not as many lorries plying as GS. To those who wants an easier ride, they will turn back after reaching the junction. The last 500 meters is quite steep so most will be puffing already, demoralizing many and wants to turn back.

The next section, the tougher section, is 10.5 kilometers to 600 meters ASL. Some parts will be steep, especially the 1km stretch just after the junction and also the last kilometer. With some sporadic sections that are steep, it will sap many new riders. The hardest part (to many seasoned GS riders) is the after getting back down to the junction is the last 12 kilometers flat road back to Ulu Langat. Unlike GS, you suffer the ride up but it's downhill all the way.

I personally prefer GP because I find the smell of rotten food hard to bear on the GS stretch. There are many restauranteurs who dump their garbage down the slopes beside GS road. The smell can get over bearing at times. But most definitely, both of these routes is tougher than FRIM  laugh.gif

PS/ Most riders don't realize that actually Fraser's Hill is an easier ride. I noticed many riders don't really study the routes. In Fraser's Hill, there is no compulsion to where you want to start or where you want to end. It's only the riders who thinks one must complete the KKB to Fraser's clock tower. I rode 6 times and only twice I do it to the clock tower. I find the last 8 kilometers (very steep) not worthwhile. You see, you have already done 33 kilometers and really tired, why suffer the last 8 km.

To really get use or learning to ride hilly terrain, skip the KKB to Sg.Chilling part first. Park your car in Sg.Chilling. Riders are earlier than hikers so the car parking in front of the drinks stall is available. Someone to look after the car, mah!  biggrin.gif You start here and ride uphill (it's actually very gradual, even horse cart can navigate up). 20 kilometers , you reach GAP. If you don't , doesn't matter as turning back is all the way down, just coasting. !3 kilometers you will reach the waterfall. So, just ride as hard as you can and if you cannot, coast back to the car. Eventually, it be become easy and when you reach that stage, you can start from KKB or occasionally ride the last 8km to the clock tower and take that symbolic picture.  biggrin.gif

Sadly, I see a lot of riders, drive up there and take the pictures as well.  shocking.gif
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I'm interested in Genting perez. The 12km is one way, right? So going and coming back will be 24km? The distance looks good for me. I'm thinking of bringing my family to enjoy the scenery there. Is it OK?


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post Sep 21 2015, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(mizi28 @ Sep 21 2015, 03:33 PM)
Hi all.

im riding mtb.i find that transporting my bike really hassle. Thinkinh of changing to foldibg bike.

But im 90kg.huu.can folding bike support my weight safely?
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Most folding bike rated to take up to 115kg.
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post Sep 21 2015, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(mkaz @ Sep 21 2015, 03:54 PM)
someone here shud organize foldies trip to genting perez !!
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Yup.... I fully support. Hope sifu ettige would agree to organise ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜
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post Sep 21 2015, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Sep 21 2015, 03:48 PM)
3ยฐ09'51.3"N 101ยฐ50'48.8"E

The coordinates of where to park your car. If going on Sunday, better be early as there will be many riders. You can have your breakfast there too. On the main road, on the opposite, there's a chinese coffee shop ( all riders knows this place, the iced barley after ride is really oommph! ). It's open after 7.15am. Here's the exact location of the route and path. Right where the path ends, to the left is Genting Peras and to the right is Semenyih where you pass the dam and lake. The elevation is also shown on the link.

http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/865219413
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The link you provide doesn't seems to show the Genting perez route you have take. I've add you as friend, though



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