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PaulKong
post Oct 24 2015, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Oct 24 2015, 04:11 PM)
u buying on ur own?, just make sure seller is sending you the correct item,
sometimes they don't have stock.
u can contact the seller on your own, if u can read chinese.

i only use agent frm lyn to buy, cos it is cheaper.
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How does lyn agent works?
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post Oct 24 2015, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Oct 24 2015, 08:31 PM)
Looks like a freewheel to me Paul. Hope that's what they'll send. I bought one from Aliexpress a year or so ago. The quality is obviously not that nice but no choice. Wish Shimano continue making the 11t ones.
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Quality not that nice? I thought gear is just gear. How to know about the quality?
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post Oct 25 2015, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Oct 24 2015, 11:47 PM)
2 years ago, an OCBC staff brought a Hummer to me to calibrate it's gear, saying that he had sent to a few shops already and it was still not shifting smoothly. I, of course started to calibrate and after half an hour or so, I still can't get it to shift crisply. Then I took out the wheelset and found out that it uses a China made freewheel cogs. Taking a chance, I rummage through my stuffs and found an original Shimano ones that I took out from my old Dahons. Sure enough, the shifting was smooth after that. That's the difference.  nod.gif

If there are no difference, nobody will want to buy Dura Ace cassettes right, when a Tiagra is also 10 speed and with the same cogs spec. A Dura Ace cassettes is almost 1 K compared to a Tiagra which is only 100 bucks. There has to be a difference in shifting. Even when I used the Shimano 105, there are difference when I change cassettes from 105 to Ultegra. It's the precision tolerance of the cogs and also the metal used. I am sure many don't realize that when we change chains, it is also better to change the cassette as well. Sometimes the wear of both components are link and if a new chain is installed without the cassette changed, the sharpness of the cogs which was grinded with the old chain might wear off the new chain faster.

Whatever quality or speed, the freewheel always loses in shifting performance. This is because the freewheel has a little play and this makes the cluster of gears sways from side to side. Try and see your bike, spin the rear wheel and look from the rear. You will notice the cogs are swaying a bit. That's why, it doesn't go more than 8 speed as the tolerances for 8,9, 10 and 11 are too small to accommodate the sway. In fact 8 speed are also hard to calibrate smoothly but off course if you don't mind a bit coarse shifting it is OK. That's why I still say, moving to hub freewheel ( freewheel is the mechanism that allows your legs to stay on the cranks without following the rear wheel rotation, that's why a fixie don't have a free wheel, when you coast your legs follow the rotation of the cranks ) is way more advantageous. It is an advancement of the gearing technology. The freewheel mechanism is moved from the cassette to the hubs.

The best freewheel cassettes I have encountered was made by Epoch. I think you can order online. Sunrace makes them too. The one I saw in Joo Ngan Son is a Sunrace.
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Thanks for your in depth explanation. If that's the case, I'll stick to what I have now. When time comes, I'll use your options 3. One time spend it all. Hahaha 😅😅😅
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post Oct 25 2015, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Oct 25 2015, 12:24 AM)
u contact the agent via pm, email etc.

send the link of item, which type etc, ask them to contact seller to check stock.

price of item in rmb, seller need to post to the agent's warehouse in GZ, so need to add domestic postage.
some times seller offer free shipping.

air shipping frm gz to west msia ranges from RM11-RM14 per kg depending on agent.

weight of items rounded to next kg, so 1.5kg is 2kg etc

got formula to calculate volumetric weight, if vol is higher will use it.

some items are classified as sensitive and need to add special fee.

the exchange rate varies, ask them for quote, normally they don't update the old rate.

eg, price of item RMB90+ domestic shipping RMB10, total = RMB100.

RMB100/1.5 = 66.67
66.67 X 1.1 = 73.33 this is the price if the item in linggit 73.33
then u need to pay air shipping fee, cheapest so far is RM 11 per KG.

u can read the instructions on the agent's thread. if tak paham ask them.

below are a few recommended ones.

- fast reply, have sea freight down to 0.1M3
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3126118

-cheapest sensitive charge
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...24313&hl=taobao

-lowest air fee RM11
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2828557
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3063342

-got small parcel sea pack
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3190582?hl=taobao
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...01562&hl=taobao

-very organized but RM14/kg
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...24040&hl=taobao
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I think your way would be better and safer. Thanks for your link. 👍👍👍
PaulKong
post Oct 29 2015, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Oct 29 2015, 06:10 AM)
Why couldn't you bring one back?  tongue.gif

Why are the forks installed the wrong way round???
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Is it mean to be the this way? The brake are at the correct front side. New design?
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post Nov 6 2015, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Nov 6 2015, 08:49 AM)
News!

For those 7 speedster who wants to upgrade but don't want to spend much, here's a chance. I saw this posted in BBS. Just change this hubs and use back the old rims and spokes. They are matching , don't worry but only for Dahons. Others if their front are 20 spokes and rear 28 spokes, then they can also be used. Good for Route and Vybe. Once changed, you can go up to 8,9 or 10 speed with more accurate freewheel gear shifting.

http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/283794/daho...ding-bikes-hubs
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This looks good. Always been thinking of changing but the cost are way too high. Thanks for sharing 👍👍👍
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post Nov 7 2015, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Nov 6 2015, 12:00 PM)
A forummer here wants to upgrade his Tern C7 with a triple chainring. The original gear inches is now from 74.28 GI to 37.14 GI. ( GI is gear inches and the smaller the GI the lower the gear [meaning easier to pedal] ). That means the variation is from the figures mentioned. If you add a triple in front , the variation goes from ,

  biggest chainring 52 teeth  -    74.28 GI to 37.14 GI
  middle chain ring 42 teeth  -    60.00 GI to 30.00 GI
smallest chain ring 30 teeth  -    40.00 GI to 21.42 GI

As you can see, there are many over lappings between the 3 ratios and ultimately the gear ratios for such modifications is from 74.28 GI to 21.42 GI.
If you use double chainring setup the variation is ;

big chainring  52T            -    74.28 GI to 37.14 GI
small chainring 39 teeth  -    55.71 GI to 27.85 GI

that means the gear varies from 74.28 GI to 27.85 GI and that's not very far between a triple and the double but the double provides a very trouble free shifting and smoother too.

Another alternative is to upgrade the rear to 9 speed ( off course if you have the dough you can go straight to 10 speed for more smoother shifting ).

chain ring 52 teeth  with 11T/32T = 32T being the maximum I suggest although there are 36T also. This is to ensure that the rear derailleur cage don't hit the ground or the rims.

This setup gives a variation of 94.54 GI to 32.5 GI. The higher gear means you can pedal faster on a flat or even pedal downhill where else in the above configurations, you will be free wheeling on flats with the smallest 14 teeth cog at the rear.

The drawback of the first option is, when you have attain some level of fitness and when you want to pedal faster, you CANNOT as the rear's smallest is 14 teeth. And when you want to upgrade again, you have to start all over again. That's because the 7 speed set up is different from 8,9 and 10 speed. You cannot use the shifters, chainrings/crank and almost everything have to be changed and the money on the first mod is wasted. That's why I always suggest modifying the rear first and go through the ardous task to pedalling in higher GI to train your legs. And once you attained this, modifying the front will give you all the advantage of 94.54 GI to 17.5 GI.

For one, I think it is better to train our fitness to a level where it is comfortable to ride without changing gears at the Putrajaya lakeside. Presume your comfort level on flats is 52 front and 14 rear (the highest gear on a 7 speed setup) , you ride constantly and until a level it's is easy. When you want to ride even faster  or further (because there must be variation for long distance rides) you can't because that's the maximum. So, that's why the smaller rear cogs will be needed once you have attain the level of fitness. There are some drawbacks on triple chainring setups as there are a few ratios you can never use because the chain is sagging on the smallest chainring and on two or three smallest rear cogs. So, this configurations are not usable but the GI can be found with the middle chain rings though.

Many new riders are making a mistake on relying on easier gear ratio (lower) to tackle hills without trying to train harder to a better level of fitness. I think this is because they ride in a group and try to catch up with other more experienced riders. every rider have to go through the phase, there are no short cuts, of course unless you fit in an electric motor.  laugh.gif My point is, having more gears are good but we still need to train our fitness level.

Just for comparison sake, the gear inches for a 30 speed 26 inch mountain bike is 104 GI to 15.88 GI. The lower gear is because the chain ring is smaller than the largest rear cog. laugh.gif
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I agree with you now..... I used to think of easier way till I realise it's better to train your fitness rather than relaying on the bike.
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post Nov 14 2015, 06:59 AM

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QUOTE(hidekoywk @ Nov 12 2015, 09:03 PM)
btw all shifus, any good apps in iphone can recommend to record our ride?
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You may try strava. I like this apps because it can detect people who is riding on the same route.
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post Nov 14 2015, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Nov 14 2015, 02:12 PM)
I've contacted the seller. Usual stuff:
- No COD
- Only "remit deposit to account".
- Poor English (not that I'm good) and don't text in Chinese.
- Asked me where am I located in *malay* (c'mon we don't short form that)

He said he got 10 unit btw.
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Yes... It's a scam. Last time someone advertise under diffrence account name selling @RM 1500. When I contacted him, he says he's in johore. Thru the conversation, I realised it is a scam. Here's the conversation I have with him. Which reply of his do you think I realise he's cheating? Hahaha



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post Nov 14 2015, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Nov 14 2015, 05:11 PM)
LOL!  I was about to get you to buy me two units Paul! Dont care what colour! 

Maybe the Italy ones might be more genuine??  biggrin.gif
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Hahaha... I think make him raise the price to RM 2000 cause I ask is it a used Brompton and why sell so cheap. 😂😂😂

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post Nov 25 2015, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Nov 20 2015, 06:55 PM)
Seems the latest Dahon Qix has landed on our shores. News received that it is already in the warehouse and should be delivered to Kimbell Jaya by next week. rclxms.gif  This is the latest fold following the success of the Dahon Jifo and Dahon EEZZ 16 inch bike. They now took the same fold technology and made a 20 inch. Looks good and the price it seems is slightly less than 3K, though not confirmed. The Jizz which is available in Singapore was selling almost 3K after exchange.

In dilemma now. To get this or to wait for the Dahon Curl. This it seems can be modded to 20 speed  drool.gif
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Hi Sifu Ettige,
May I know what's the advantage of vertical fold? Does it fold smaller? At first I was attracted to Dahon eezz because the fold size is similar to Brompton. What about Dahon qix? Gearing wise, I would prefer qix more than eezz. Pls advice. Thanks
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post Nov 26 2015, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Nov 25 2015, 11:44 PM)
This lies somewhere between Speed and the rest and the Brompton but the Dahon Qix is a 20 inch so it folds bigger. That must be given consideration. The Qix also has the advantage of easier rolling on flat surfaces but it won't help at all in our place where we have to carry up and down stair cases unlike in other countries ramps are made for the disabled. This fold technology was researched for the Jifo and with it's success, they extended it to a normal 20 inch model, hence the Dahon Qix.

I just like the fact that it folds vertical, it takes less space than my former Speed. Eg, in trains, going slightly up vertically actually does not matter but a bigger footprint will. So the Qix has a smaller foot print than other conventional 20 incher. I also take consideration that modding a 20 speed is easy on the Qix. That's my main criteria. Also, next year , I am riding from Incheon to Busan in Korea and I actually plan to stop over in Hong Kong to check out Bromptons ( EPF withdrawal time  rclxms.gif  )  but if the Qix is OK, with the 20 inch wheels and 20 speed , it would be most ideal. Hopefully, 2 bikes won't weigh above 30 kgs. Maybe I will try to target 24 kgs for 2 bikes!
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I'm also looking for a smaller foot print bicycle. Brompton does attract me the most but the price is too expensive. I was considering Dahon eezz because the foot print is almost similar to Brompton. However, 3 speed gear is too narrow for me. Now with this qix, it seems perfect but not sure how big is the foot print. Is 16" eezz too small? If I'm not mistaken, Brompton wheels are bigger than regular 16"


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post Nov 26 2015, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Nov 26 2015, 12:56 PM)
Paul, all Bromptons are 16" wheels only.
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Yes, it is but if not mistaken 16" also got 2 sizes. Just like 20" which consists of 406 and 451
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post Nov 26 2015, 09:18 PM

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Price in Tokyo are more expensive than here unless it's on sale. Here's two bikes that is on sale. Maybe it's old model, that's why on sale 🤔🤔


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