QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 21 2014, 09:40 PM)
You trying to say call me random is having mood swings? I'm konpuised.
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looks like a death trap. looking forward to hearing someone died inside one of these lol |
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Land not free. Kontena vs bricks on a similar footprint the cost won't be much different.
Plus it should be impossible to get approval from authorities left and right. TNB will probably not approve, water also difficult and don't forget majlis perbandaran's rules on structural integrity. Impossible la bro. |
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Nov 22 2014, 05:17 AM
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QUOTE(thexs @ Nov 22 2014, 12:41 AM) Land not free. Kontena vs bricks on a similar footprint the cost won't be much different. Primarily it is the easy in known structural integrity and movability I guess. Plus build time would be far less than an equivalent brick and mortar house.Plus it should be impossible to get approval from authorities left and right. TNB will probably not approve, water also difficult and don't forget majlis perbandaran's rules on structural integrity. Impossible la bro. I live in these things when I'm at work. We call them "Dongas". The primary concern when it comes to these structures is that them being metal, there is a "touch potential" hazard when it comes to electricity, but it is nothing that a competent engineer could not compensate for with a few good GND stakes and welded tails. |
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Nov 22 2014, 05:17 AM) Primarily it is the easy in known structural integrity and movability I guess. Plus build time would be far less than an equivalent brick and mortar house. now that's something newI live in these things when I'm at work. We call them "Dongas". The primary concern when it comes to these structures is that them being metal, there is a "touch potential" hazard when it comes to electricity, but it is nothing that a competent engineer could not compensate for with a few good GND stakes and welded tails. TS, u should consider naming your humble loft "The Donga" it sounds so exclusive just like The Datai at Langkawai |
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at least need 5,000 for sound proofing
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QUOTE(call me random @ Nov 20 2014, 08:08 PM) its an abstract not a finding/conclusion sigh. if you were to type back the first paragraph into google you'd know where it's from. the quality of kopitiam replies, i'm not expecting anything less.i understand the claim. as if the soil will grip the pile after sometimes. but thats not always the case and its not always imrpoving the load bearing capacity per se even if there are, to what significant? can be doubled or tripled right but as for the soil, yeah, you can improve the soil condition in that 3 months by the way bakau pile always driven in for the mere friction, not to set one, can withheld light load, straight away put also no prob it's from electronic journal of geotechnical engineering, written by a senior lecturer from civil engineering department, uitm, one assoc. prof and one full prof from usm engineering campus, civil engineering faculty. that prof is a P.E. in civil eng. but sure, maybe you've written lots of theses-es to know which is taken from an undergrad. on the findings, i leave it to kopitiam experts to download and read the paper and derive their own conclusion. i posted the abstract to point out the first 2 line where it's a well known phenomenon, common, and it's also researched and reported in malaysia. as much as i would like to trust some random stranger posting in some randon internet forum, i dont'. at least the paper is written by someone with credible background. |
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QUOTE(paskal @ Nov 22 2014, 12:13 PM) sigh. if you were to type back the first paragraph into google you'd know where it's from. the quality of kopitiam replies, i'm not expecting anything less. im not going to type back the first paragraph into google.it's from electronic journal of geotechnical engineering, written by a senior lecturer from civil engineering department, uitm, one assoc. prof and one full prof from usm engineering campus, civil engineering faculty. that prof is a P.E. in civil eng. but sure, maybe you've written lots of theses-es to know which is taken from an undergrad. on the findings, i leave it to kopitiam experts to download and read the paper and derive their own conclusion. i posted the abstract to point out the first 2 line where it's a well known phenomenon, common, and it's also researched and reported in malaysia. as much as i would like to trust some random stranger posting in some randon internet forum, i dont'. at least the paper is written by someone with credible background. but but u could hv quoted the sauce u know? /k rule of thumb? doesnt matter u donwan to trust me, just sharing my thoughts only engineering after all deals with all kind of assumptions, and very much site specific, we dunno ur site condition, we can only assume, can be off also.. |
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QUOTE(thexs @ Nov 22 2014, 12:41 AM) Land not free. Kontena vs bricks on a similar footprint the cost won't be much different. not if it's could be declared as temporary structure. if it's not directly welded to the ground, can be moved, it's not permanent structure. refer your local laws. temporary structure have less red tape to them compared to permanent construction.Plus it should be impossible to get approval from authorities left and right. TNB will probably not approve, water also difficult and don't forget majlis perbandaran's rules on structural integrity. Impossible la bro. it's a land lot, with proper paper. TNB and water probably no problem. we managed to get water and electricity supply to a wooden guard house, built at the side of the road on stilts, declared under temporary structure and the local council doesn't bug us. they're the ones that advised us how to avoid the red tape. |
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Nov 22 2014, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(paskal @ Nov 22 2014, 12:23 PM) not if it's could be declared as temporary structure. if it's not directly welded to the ground, can be moved, it's not permanent structure. refer your local laws. temporary structure have less red tape to them compared to permanent construction. Registering it under a temporary structure will solve some of the red tape issues but we need to remind ourselves that the purpose of this project is to create homes that people would live in as a replacement for the traditional houses that are deemed to be unaffordable these days. it's a land lot, with proper paper. TNB and water probably no problem. we managed to get water and electricity supply to a wooden guard house, built at the side of the road on stilts, declared under temporary structure and the local council doesn't bug us. they're the ones that advised us how to avoid the red tape. As the name would imply, a temporary structure is afterall, temporary. Unless there are loopholes that allow these structures to remain indefinitely or with reasonable timeframs (5 years or so), it is hard to see anyone actually investing in these as their home. A rental-based business model might solve this issue but again you'll have to charge below the standard rate for traditional apartments/flats and still be able to profit even with the possible relocation costs. |
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Nov 22 2014, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 22 2014, 10:26 AM) Honestly, IMO you could have opt for a wooden hut, the same size of tat container. dudeor bricks even. Shouldn't cost that much, have you tried asking? the problem is because this thing made fully metal corrosion,electrocution,hot as long this building properly sealed and got air conditioning itll be good i used to live one week during bad weather no problem |
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Nov 22 2014, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Nov 22 2014, 05:17 AM) Primarily it is the easy in known structural integrity and movability I guess. Plus build time would be far less than an equivalent brick and mortar house. yeah...mine at workplace got many bonding cableI live in these things when I'm at work. We call them "Dongas". The primary concern when it comes to these structures is that them being metal, there is a "touch potential" hazard when it comes to electricity, but it is nothing that a competent engineer could not compensate for with a few good GND stakes and welded tails. lightning struck occurred one..got one big hole at the top but i feel nothing lol properly grounded i say |
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