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post Nov 18 2014, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(azreeceli @ Nov 18 2014, 10:03 PM)
heres my plan

to build a house will cost minimum 100K for nowadays
it is almost impossible i can afford that amount of money and commitment to pay

so i use this method
short term plan for long term ease

means, buy land 1st, 35K, but loan 50K
so use extra 15k for container to live for 5 years until loan 5 years finished

after 5 years, make another loan 50-100K for another 5 or 10 years to build a proper house if that's what we wanted lah, else buy more container after 5 years and make it better

hence, maximum loan years is 5 or 10 years
i am downsizing my need but aiming for bigger life
means, i dont want to live life worried about loan, uncertainties

just work hard for few years and later enjoy the time for our golden time (aging)

my pov lah, u dont have to follow mine, i seek no judgement as i dont ask people to follow mine smile.gif
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i applause your effort. some people will say it's impossible (as usual), but they themselves don't dare to try it.
building with sand and bricks will cost a lot more than a cabin constructed like this.
those that worry too much about the heat penetration certainly have never worked inside an AC-ed cabin before.

good luck. if you're interested in rainwater supplementary system read the last few pages of my build thread. there's quite some technical discussion about it.


p/s: makes much sense spending RM50k and getting a landed house rather than spending half a million for a studio unit eh.
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post Nov 20 2014, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 18 2014, 10:14 PM)
ah... how's your lovely house?

later finish, dun forget to tag me in your completed thread
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waiting for the monsoon season to pass. just nice to let the piling to set in this weather.

QUOTE(azreeceli @ Nov 18 2014, 10:43 PM)
paskal, i appreciate your understanding
at least i dont feels like im all alone in this effort
i am scared u know

yup, 500K for soho in cyberjaya with inflation and economic downturn soon, is a nightmare
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it makes no sense to buy a small studio unit for half a million when a nice land plot could still be had for RM35k, eh?

you know once you have the proper land title (geran tanah) you could initiate a loan to build a better house. the interest rate will be the same as buying a house. it doesn't matter if the land is under tanah pertanian status or tanah pembangunan. an agriculture status land would still entitle you to build one house for the owner.

someone will come in an say, nope, there's no such loan. and saying it's bull$hit. this is kopitiam after all.

QUOTE(azreeceli @ Nov 19 2014, 12:05 PM)
yup, very small
but im maximizing the utilization of the space
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i'm building a 3621 sqft behemoth. still got people saying it's small. icon_rolleyes.gif
we did considered the whole container concept at the first land plot that we tried to acquire. the seaside plot in my thread.
but since the land deal didn't go through we didn't proceed.

20 feet containers could be had for RM2k-ish over here. kampung people are buying them and using it as an outdoor store room. decent condition with no leak.
put in on stilts and retain the shell strength so that it can be moved, and viola! it doesn't count as a permanent construction. you'll get A LOT OF LEEWAY, even in the eyes of the law. hence why the local council doesn't have any law regarding a container house, because it can't be counted as a permanent structure.

we considered the whole container concept so that we could build right next to the shore line, and the container on stilts provide such possibility.
check with your local council.
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post Nov 20 2014, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 20 2014, 10:03 AM)
first time i see people use weather to set the pile
usually we just drive the pile to set, either by skin friction or to hard rock layer
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i didn't use the weather to set the pile. it's just that the weather isn't conducive to start building.
so might as well pile before monsoon and leave it to rest through the not-so-favorable weather. make sense?

QUOTE(azreeceli @ Nov 20 2014, 10:15 AM)
it's better to pile after monsoon i think, is it?
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i'm depending on friction to hold the structure. as the soil underneath the plot is quite soft because it's an agriculture land. so like it or not we need to let it set. would you rather let it set through dry season when it's best to work with cement or let it set through monsoon season when it rains heavily everyday?
after monsoon there's gonna be a few month of dry season, esp during march. that time is good to start construction as there's very little rain and the weather is very predictable.

if you're opting for friction to hold the pile, you need to let it rest. so you could pile before the monsoon starts, let it set through the monsoon and start construction after the rainy season passed.
if you start piling after monsoon, by the time you let it rest you're going to hit the next rainy season already. so missed that dry window.

or, you could pile until you hit the hard layer and it doesn't move anymore. that method you don't need to let it rest, can start immediately. but some soil is just too soft that you're going to need lots of pile for each point. that will certainly not be cheap.

then again, i'm not formally educated in civil engineering so i might be off.
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post Nov 20 2014, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 20 2014, 01:45 PM)
LOL

you need to study more on foundation engineering

skin friction is not dependent on the weather or how wet the soil is

piles are driven deep underneath the soil, thus any monsoon or dry weather will not aggect it in any way

if it does affect, then you will be in deep trouble as your house will start to settle unevenly everytime monsoon season arrives wink.gif
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2 genuine questions:

1) does time improve the pile friction to the ground?
2) would a pile left to set for 1 minutes have the same friction to it compared to a pile left to set for 1 month?
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post Nov 20 2014, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 20 2014, 04:10 PM)
general answer:
1. no
2. yes.
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maybe my friend made a mistake when he suggested that we let the pile rest for 3 months.
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post Nov 20 2014, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 20 2014, 07:41 PM)
i don't know your friend. he might be a phd engineer. ayam just a normal bra seller.

but last time when we do load test, once pile is driven to set, we put all the loads up and straight away read the gauge for a few weeks  laugh.gif
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he no have phd. but he civil engineer in the area here. housing projects in alor setar and kangar, mostly in the same condition as my plot.
he visited the site, asked the pile that we're using, the method and suggested rest time of 3 months.

from his mouth, he's never seen a pile move after 1 month rest. they're also not piling to set because it's cheaper. need 3-4 pile back-to-back if the piles are driven to set. too deep soft clay in these area.

just to be safe, we did asked a couple more of them for advice. wife works in jkr so civil engineer is aplenty.
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post Nov 22 2014, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(call me random @ Nov 20 2014, 08:08 PM)
its an abstract not a finding/conclusion biggrin.gif looks like coming fr a perhaps undergrads thesis too, lotsa thesis actually has no real findings.

i understand the claim. as if the soil will grip the pile after sometimes.
but thats not always the case and its not always imrpoving the load bearing capacity per se
even if there are, to what significant? can be doubled or tripled right hmm.gif
but as for the soil, yeah, you can improve the soil condition in that 3 months by the way biggrin.gif
bakau pile always driven in for the mere friction, not to set one, can withheld light load, straight away put also no prob
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sigh. if you were to type back the first paragraph into google you'd know where it's from. the quality of kopitiam replies, i'm not expecting anything less.
it's from electronic journal of geotechnical engineering, written by a senior lecturer from civil engineering department, uitm, one assoc. prof and one full prof from usm engineering campus, civil engineering faculty. that prof is a P.E. in civil eng.

but sure, maybe you've written lots of theses-es to know which is taken from an undergrad. on the findings, i leave it to kopitiam experts to download and read the paper and derive their own conclusion.

i posted the abstract to point out the first 2 line where it's a well known phenomenon, common, and it's also researched and reported in malaysia.
as much as i would like to trust some random stranger posting in some randon internet forum, i dont'. at least the paper is written by someone with credible background.
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post Nov 22 2014, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(thexs @ Nov 22 2014, 12:41 AM)
Land not free. Kontena vs bricks on a similar footprint the cost won't be much different.

Plus it should be impossible to get approval from authorities left and right. TNB will probably not approve, water also difficult and don't forget majlis perbandaran's rules on structural integrity. Impossible la bro.
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not if it's could be declared as temporary structure. if it's not directly welded to the ground, can be moved, it's not permanent structure. refer your local laws. temporary structure have less red tape to them compared to permanent construction.

it's a land lot, with proper paper.
TNB and water probably no problem. we managed to get water and electricity supply to a wooden guard house, built at the side of the road on stilts, declared under temporary structure and the local council doesn't bug us. they're the ones that advised us how to avoid the red tape.
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post Nov 24 2014, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(azreeceli @ Nov 24 2014, 07:17 AM)
indeed, the tnb guy will do the proper grounding smile.gif
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Tnb doesn't provide grounding calculation. They just connect the ground rod and do simple resistive test.

Come k expert. Advice him how to calculate proper grounding point.
Just be wary that a miscalculation could cost someone's life.
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post Dec 14 2014, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(shahzane @ Dec 14 2014, 09:53 AM)
yeah. I was thinking of something similar. my parents have a bungalow plot on a hill, but they're not planning built a house there yet as it is fairly a new area and there's nobody else living there yet.

Thinking of turning that land into a weekend cabin for the family to hang out on weekends, have bbq and maybe even built a pool. when my other siblings have enough fund, they can add on their own cabins later.  icon_idea.gif
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add waterproof sealer into the cement mix. then use waterproof paint or liner to line the pool wall.
you don't need to be a millionaire to enjoy a nice pool next to the house.

if you ever wanna build a container cabin, do it properly.
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post Sep 20 2015, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(fieznur81 @ Sep 20 2015, 04:26 AM)
Masalah pakai kolam pam angin pun penuh dengan serangga nak tumpang meyelam berenang terjun tiruk.... kalau buat kolam camni rasanya kena bela ikan dalam tu.
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