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TStrade99
post Nov 17 2014, 11:13 PM, updated 12y ago

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After almost 2 years of workout, from mon, wed, fri change to current monday - sat workout schedule.
1 week 2 days for leg, but my leg still like not growing, chicken leg.
Upper body growing fast like normal, but not lower body leg.

please give me some suggestion or comment solve this problem.
what should I do, is it not enough heavy for workout or what.

This post has been edited by trade99: Nov 18 2014, 11:27 PM
arelan090807
post Nov 17 2014, 11:16 PM

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put more weight..more weight, more mass..
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post Nov 17 2014, 11:17 PM

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What is your current workout for the legs?
Weights reps sets

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post Nov 17 2014, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(PeinEVO @ Nov 17 2014, 11:17 PM)
What is your current workout for the legs?
Weights reps sets
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1 week 2 days leg
- 1st day (power) HEAVY
squat 8 set at least 4 - 6 reps, from 1st set increase the weight untill only can do 4-6 reps, my maximum weight is 45kg + 45kg
sumo deadlift 5 set, increase the weight untill only can do 4 - 6 reps weight is 30kg + 30kg
leg press 5 set, increase the weight untill only can do 4 - 6 reps total weight is 270lb + 270lb
calf 5 set, increase for each set but not heavy, 10-15 reps 30kg +30kg

- 2nd day (iso) Normal weight
squat 5 set, from 1st set increase the weight untill only can do 4-6 reps, max weight 40kg + 40kg
walking lunges 5 set from 70lb to 80lb 10 step go and 10 step back
machine 5 set for front leg and rear leg
calf 5 set weight increase for each set but not heavy, 10-15 reps 30kg +30kg


now im in cutting, lower back injured many times when doing leg or back workout since cutting.

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post Nov 17 2014, 11:54 PM

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Go do Starting Strenght. Then tell me about your lower body.
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post Nov 18 2014, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Nov 17 2014, 11:54 PM)
Go do Starting Strenght. Then tell me about your lower body.
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please explain why I need starting strength ?
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post Nov 18 2014, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(trade99 @ Nov 17 2014, 11:30 PM)
1 week 2 days leg
- 1st day (power) HEAVY
  squat 8 set at least 4 - 6 reps, from 1st set increase the weight untill only can do 4-6 reps, my maximum weight is 45kg + 45kg
  sumo deadlift 5 set, increase the weight untill only can do 4 - 6 reps weight is 30kg + 30kg
  leg press 5 set, increase the weight untill only can do 4 - 6 reps total weight is 270lb + 270lb
  calf 5 set, increase for each set but not heavy, 10-15 reps 30kg +30kg

- 2nd day (iso) Normal weight
  squat 5 set, from 1st set increase the weight untill only can do 4-6 reps, max weight 40kg + 40kg
  walking lunges 5 set from 70lb to 80lb 10 step go and 10 step back
  machine 5 set for front leg and rear leg
  calf 5 set weight increase for each set but not heavy, 10-15 reps 30kg +30kg
now im in cutting, lower back injured many times when doing leg or back workout since cutting.
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Try a proper leg workout instead of jumble up your own version of leg workout. Sumo deadlift focused more on the back instead of the leg. Reason why Armesh told you to go for Starting Strength because it is a proper programming and it works.
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post Nov 18 2014, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(frozenne @ Nov 18 2014, 12:23 AM)
which part of lower body?
still 2"?
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post Nov 18 2014, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Nov 18 2014, 12:22 AM)
Try a proper leg workout instead of jumble up your own version of leg workout. Sumo deadlift focused more on the back instead of the leg. Reason why Armesh told you to go for Starting Strength because it is a proper programming and it works.
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I've search for Starting Strength workout, but it running 1 day workout next day rest then another day workout, and mixed upper body and lower body
Not really understand about Starting Strength for the legs, can you please explain thank you
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post Nov 18 2014, 12:44 AM

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im also doing 2 leg days, same like you, one power day and one high reps day
but template is different

my power day
10 sets of 3 reps super heavy squat (around 90~95% 1RM)
5 sets of 5 front squat
5 sets of 5 stiff legged deadlift

high reps day
100 reps of squats with 80% 1rm
100 reps is split over multiple sets like 8/7/7/5/5/4/4 and so on
ill do whatever sets and reps as long as it totals out to be 100 reps

usually it will last about 2 hours for leg day

it works for me, maybe you can give it a try, or just follow some heavy compound routine. i dont do any machines because sometimes if i workout at campus my campus have only barbells and racks, no machines

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post Nov 18 2014, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(trade99 @ Nov 17 2014, 11:30 PM)
1 week 2 days leg
- 1st day (power) HEAVY
  squat 8 set at least 4 - 6 reps, from 1st set increase the weight untill only can do 4-6 reps, my maximum weight is 45kg + 45kg
  sumo deadlift 5 set, increase the weight untill only can do 4 - 6 reps weight is 30kg + 30kg
  leg press 5 set, increase the weight untill only can do 4 - 6 reps total weight is 270lb + 270lb
  calf 5 set, increase for each set but not heavy, 10-15 reps 30kg +30kg

- 2nd day (iso) Normal weight
  squat 5 set, from 1st set increase the weight untill only can do 4-6 reps, max weight 40kg + 40kg
  walking lunges 5 set from 70lb to 80lb 10 step go and 10 step back
  machine 5 set for front leg and rear leg
  calf 5 set weight increase for each set but not heavy, 10-15 reps 30kg +30kg
now im in cutting, lower back injured many times when doing leg or back workout since cutting.
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They are many variables in any workout; mind-body connection, intensity, rest time, giant sets, compound sets etc. Try to tweak as many as you should. In addition calories intake and even proper sleep and rest. You got to figure that out yourself unless you have a coach who can see what and how you do your workouts.
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post Nov 18 2014, 03:49 AM

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natty should just go low sets, heavy weight
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post Nov 18 2014, 07:00 AM

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QUOTE(trade99 @ Nov 18 2014, 12:33 AM)
I've search for Starting Strength workout, but it running 1 day workout next day rest then another day workout, and mixed upper body and lower body
Not really understand about Starting Strength for the legs, can you please explain thank you
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It's a fullbody routine. That is how every natural shud train. Dont do that stupid bodypart splits. Thats just crap.

About legs, u are squating 3x per week.
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post Nov 18 2014, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Manlet @ Nov 18 2014, 12:44 AM)
im also doing 2 leg days, same like you, one power day and one high reps day
but template is different

my power day
10 sets of 3 reps super heavy squat (around 90~95% 1RM)
5 sets of 5 front squat
5 sets of 5 stiff legged deadlift

high reps day
100 reps of squats with 80% 1rm
100 reps is split over multiple sets like 8/7/7/5/5/4/4 and so on
ill do whatever sets and reps as long as it totals out to be 100 reps

usually it will last about 2 hours for leg day

it works for me, maybe you can give it a try, or just follow some heavy compound routine. i dont do any machines because sometimes if i workout at campus my campus have only barbells and racks, no machines
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so your high reps day is more on squat only ?
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post Nov 18 2014, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Nov 18 2014, 07:00 AM)
It's a fullbody routine. That is how every natural shud train. Dont do that stupid bodypart splits. Thats just crap.

About legs, u are squating 3x per week.
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because right now im cutting... should go back to full bodypart ?
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post Nov 18 2014, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(trade99 @ Nov 18 2014, 10:27 AM)
because right now im cutting... should go back to full bodypart ?
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Your routine does not change when you cut. Just that your progression on that routine changes (slows/or maintain weights).

At advance levels you can do workload regulation (this shit is way harder).
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QUOTE(trade99 @ Nov 18 2014, 10:21 AM)
so your high reps day is more on squat only ?
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its squat only.. but you will get doms everywhr. quads and hamstring

maybe you can throw in some calves but since my leg day is already so long i planned my calves at cardio day
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post Nov 19 2014, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Nov 18 2014, 10:35 AM)
Your routine does not change when you cut. Just that your progression on that routine changes (slows/or maintain weights).

At advance levels you can do workload regulation (this shit is way harder).
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im sorry i cant understand about workload regulation... please explain
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post Nov 20 2014, 08:15 AM

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sometimes it genetics prob. like my fren, hav huge body but vry small leg (mind u he didnt lift any weight).

u got strength, n now go for hyperthrohy. hitting in d range of 8-12 reps n in every angle.

n also cut d crap up ab bro split. it does work jus its a matter how u use it.
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post Nov 20 2014, 08:38 AM

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Let me sort of quote darklight79

Weights up, physique no up -> fix your food intake

Physique up, Weights no up -> fix your training

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