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post Nov 29 2014, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 29 2014, 08:55 AM)
I thought many rich ppl and high salary earners? no takers? developers still holding units wor... seringgin too  doh.gif  doh.gif

showtime 747 want ppl to buy his invested prop so that he can move in those areas wor..  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Very afraid of my comments...like jliew said, bearbear kena strip naked
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post Nov 29 2014, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 29 2014, 08:55 AM)
I thought many rich ppl and high salary earners? no takers? developers still holding units wor... seringgin too  doh.gif  doh.gif

showtime 747 want ppl to buy his invested prop so that he can move in those areas wor..  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Bro bear lu sibeh funny. Others advised u to buy, din advise u to buy their props. Dun put words into other ppl's mouth la. Come on grow up kid. V luv u. V dun wanna c u in holand selling aisikilim. nod.gif
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post Nov 29 2014, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Nov 29 2014, 09:10 AM)
Bro bear lu sibeh funny. Others advised u to buy, din advise u to buy their props. Dun put words into other ppl's mouth la. Come on grow up kid. V luv u. V dun wanna c u in holand selling aisikilim. nod.gif
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market not healthy, you ask ppl buy , this one is going holland
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post Nov 29 2014, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 29 2014, 08:55 AM)
I thought many rich ppl and high salary earners? no takers? developers still holding units wor... seringgin too  doh.gif  doh.gif

showtime 747 want ppl to buy his invested prop so that he can move in those areas wor..  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Ya la....now need you first timer to rescue la.
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post Nov 29 2014, 09:40 AM

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Why investments fail

Knowing when to make the cut

Their hope for a turnaround: Chance is a vital ingredient in the investing game. Many think they have figured the market out, and refuse to accept the warning signs that prevail. They believe that if the market has dropped, it can and will rebound eventually.

I Paper loss: The reality of the losses incurred is taken lightly. Many fail to cut their loss and move on because they feel that paper loss is not an actual loss. As long as they do not perform the transaction to realise their losses, it is not final that it is a failed investment. They can still take comfort in the hope that the investment will eventually profit over time. Investors focus primarily on the capital they would lose if they sell, instead of focusing on the cost of not moving on.


Lack of monitoring: Buying into an investment is just the beginning of the money optimisation journey. Many fail to regularly monitor and review how their unit trust or shares are doing, thus leaving them unaware as to when the investments start underperforming.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...g-on/?style=biz

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QUOTE(bcpbeancounter @ Nov 29 2014, 09:40 AM)
Ya la....now need you first timer to rescue la.
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everybody will stop buying until next year after GST
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 29 2014, 09:29 AM)
market not healthy, you ask ppl buy , this one is going holland
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Don say like that la. Later cannot find buyer how? You know your word very powerful one you know! Like dr m speak in umno, everyone listen.
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 29 2014, 09:41 AM)
everybody will stop buying until next year after GST
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Few month only wo? Subsale no gst mah! Why wait?
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post Nov 29 2014, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 29 2014, 09:41 AM)
everybody will stop buying until next year after GST
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Bro, i thought u keep saying transaction slightly drop from record high to high? How come now u said nobody buying zero transaction?
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 29 2014, 09:40 AM)
Why investments fail

Knowing when to make the cut

Their hope for a turnaround: Chance is a vital ingredient in the investing game. Many think they have figured the market out, and refuse to accept the warning signs that prevail. They believe that if the market has dropped, it can and will rebound eventually.

I Paper loss: The reality of the losses incurred is taken lightly. Many fail to cut their loss and move on because they feel that paper loss is not an actual loss. As long as they do not perform the transaction to realise their losses, it is not final that it is a failed investment. They can still take comfort in the hope that the investment will eventually profit over time. Investors focus primarily on the capital they would lose if they sell, instead of focusing on the cost of not moving on.
Lack of monitoring: Buying into an investment is just the beginning of the money optimisation journey. Many fail to regularly monitor and review how their unit trust or shares are doing, thus leaving them unaware as to when the investments start underperforming.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...g-on/?style=biz
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Now i wan to cut loss....but you keep asking people dont buy....how le?
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QUOTE(kradun @ Nov 29 2014, 09:46 AM)
Bro, i thought u keep saying transaction slightly drop from record high to high? How come now u said nobody buying zero transaction?
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Yesterday and today different liao....now we are living in a very dynamic world.
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 29 2014, 09:29 AM)
market not healthy, you ask ppl buy , this one is going holland
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No wor, no 1 can guarantee u later is better than now, high probably will change from no good to worst lor.. Then u say no matter how u need it then u ma cbhsl..
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post Nov 29 2014, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 29 2014, 09:29 AM)
market not healthy, you ask ppl buy , this one is going holland
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Market increased 20-30% annually you said not healthy, market increased 10-15% annually you said not healthy, market increased 5-10% annually you said not healthy, market stagnant no moving you said not healthy as crash coming can wait, market drop 5-10% you said will drop more can still wait, market drop 10-20% you said big crash coming jtst wait a little bit longer, market drop 20-30% you said just hold 1 last time, (then your boss ask you to go to his office & tell you his lost a lot of money, he can no longer employing you give you a Big envelope & wish you all the best in your next endeavour) Forever & forever you are waiting.

Becoz when price go up you refuse to move target it become harder & harder for you to buy, when price drop you keep on moving to a bigger & bigger target which you also not buying.

See you problem or not, we all have the same thought, just that we keep it as a short fantasy then fast2 move back to reality once our logic mind alarm ring, but you never set a alarm clock in your mind that why every morning you wake up late & missed the boat, where else Ice cream boy to anxious he wake up whole night get up too early take a wrong boat (a pirate one that is) unload too early now no capital to restart.

Ok lah I will pause here at least give you a piece of leave to cover the importance opps i mean important part, so that you can have some face to continue entertaining us..lol
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 29 2014, 09:41 AM)
everybody will stop buying until next year after GST
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Minister already give green light for developer to increase 3% post GST, you still dreaming ah ? In fact now many buyer rush to buy before GST kick in & everything increased price, problem is most owner refused to sell as they know they can increase futher after GST.

New launch increased surely Secondary will followed.

That why we said you have bad foresight.
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Bear2 u are just a willing buyer but u looking at whole bunch of willing sellers somemore u want them to beg u to buy their prop at 10-20% discount from market price, a.k.a 10%-20% below valuation price, like this got logic boh? U keep stressing subsales valuation cannot get spa price but in reality almost everywhere i see also still able to find property that dont have issue to get valuation match the selling price.. That look like those trying to find excuse keep magnified its bads, chinese say look for chick bone inside the egg..

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post Nov 29 2014, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 29 2014, 09:40 AM)
Why investments fail

Knowing when to make the cut

Their hope for a turnaround: Chance is a vital ingredient in the investing game. Many think they have figured the market out, and refuse to accept the warning signs that prevail. They believe that if the market has dropped, it can and will rebound eventually.

I Paper loss: The reality of the losses incurred is taken lightly. Many fail to cut their loss and move on because they feel that paper loss is not an actual loss. As long as they do not perform the transaction to realise their losses, it is not final that it is a failed investment. They can still take comfort in the hope that the investment will eventually profit over time. Investors focus primarily on the capital they would lose if they sell, instead of focusing on the cost of not moving on.
Lack of monitoring: Buying into an investment is just the beginning of the money optimisation journey. Many fail to regularly monitor and review how their unit trust or shares are doing, thus leaving them unaware as to when the investments start underperforming.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...g-on/?style=biz
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bearbear, you are confused with your objective.

You buy house for own stay. Not for investment. You got to be very clear what you want

Buying a house is a need. Just like food, transport, clothing.

Whereas investment has different objective. You have to remember and clear about your own objective
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 29 2014, 06:48 AM)
Typical of herd behaviour as described by prof Oswald.
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Why u didnt reply with solid examples or evidence??..... mad.gif mad.gif

QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Nov 28 2014, 05:50 PM)
Please quote example of same repeated history (in terms of reasons) of prop downfall......  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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post Nov 29 2014, 11:12 AM

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Saturday...... so earlier bbw start trolling everywhere liao..... wacko.gif wacko.gif
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post Nov 29 2014, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 29 2014, 09:29 AM)
market not healthy, you ask ppl buy , this one is going holland
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market where got not healthy???..... Minister says "zero unemployment" woh....... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

http://news.asiaone.com/news/malaysia/mala...e-says-minister

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Nov 29 2014, 08:37 AM)
Don't be inflexible in interpreting prof Oswald's teaching. There are always 2 ways of looking at things. There are 2 herds in property market.

1 type is UUU - who buy properties and makes money for the last 5-6 years

1 type is DDD - who also wanted to buy property but wait for crash. They also chase for property, but at cheap price. But for the last 5-6 years, they lost the opportunity, or more commonly known as "missed the boat"

So, both herd types have sizeable followers. Both are herds mentality.   

Your narrow interpretation of prof Oswald's teaching has cost you to have missed the boat
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The world and future generation is lucky and saved that you are not teaching.

QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Nov 29 2014, 11:11 AM)
Why u didnt reply with solid examples or evidence??.....  mad.gif  mad.gif
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You are a typical example, what else need to add?


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