nope. mirrorless camera quite good enough for me, compare with DSLR

Mirrorless camera is not a dslr, so don't expect it to perform like one, especially in af speed, response and even the start up time you were mentioning. But the image quality these days in mirror less is good enough to replace a dslr on certain extend.

I guess most of us here are from dslr league. So when choosing a mirrorless system, we be more cautious as we want the best out of the system. Each system has its advantage and as far as I know you can't get the best of both world. Example like Olympus is famous for its in body stabilisation and weather sealing, Panasonic has its GM1 for smallest CSC contender and the noctilux, fujifilm has it unique x trans sensor and retro styling, Sony has blazing fast af speed and zeiss lens as stronghold.

So when I buy a mirrorless, I wish I have all the wanted stuffs as I said above. So for me any system will do, as I will eventually suit to the system and get my photos out of it. Quote from my sifu: "a good photographer should able to make good picture with the gears on hand and not relying on hears to make good picture."

Anyhow, happy shopping!

Shooting with flash at very low light events. Where an external flash and its AF assist beams. I don't know how mirrorless performs in this area. I don't see much reviews or discussions about it. I know the mirrorless can't access the flash guns AF beams because it uses a different focus system.

A DSLR with a flashgun combo is still awesomeness for indoor events. And the best flash guns aren't small so that big DSLR body really helps support and balance it when you hold the combo.

If you can't let go of flash photography then its best not to let go of DSLR just yet.

well, Olympus is also famous with its blazing fast AF speed too.

well, you get some you lose some.

for example comparing my Canon 550D to Olympus EM10, both have their own strengths and weakness.

In comparison

Canon 550D
-better grip and ergonomics, since button are spread apart further away than small mirrorless
-faster write speed or buffer? even shooting RAW, the process of taking the image then previewing it is instant, where with the olympus I had to wait 2 or 3 seconds
-OVF, means even using flash in M mode, I have a bright and clear viewfinder, where the EM10 darkens until almost pitch black as it previews the exposure
-cheap lenses, I have the good Tamron 70-200 for below 2k but with m4/3 system, the closest equivalent is the panasonic 35-100 which is 3k+. most dslr lenses are cheaper than mirrorless too because of the age.
-battery life is crazily good, I got 900 images in a single charge from the 550D before although it is rated at 500-600 shots only, since you can turn off the preview/screen that uses a lot battery.
-noisy shutter. it varies from different dslr, but the sound of mirror flipping is extremely annoying if you are photographing concert or street which always unwanted attention.


Olympus em10
-well, the size and weight is nothing compared to a dslr, very light to carry around and hanging on your neck/ hand, less tiring for long time usage.
-in body stabilization, a very big advantage compared to dslr, I did some experiment before, got very good results of handholding the camera for 2 seconds at 24mm. put any lens on the camera and you still get stabilization.
-EVF, a lot bigger and more functions can be shown. with dslr you get very small viewfinder on entry level models with basic information of exposure only. with EVF, you get tons of information like leveling/ peaking (good for manual focus)/ various grids to aid composition/ previewing images and even recording video using viewfinder.
-resolution of EVF, as good as it goes, a EVF is basically a smaller LCD. you don't get the same kind of feel like a optical dslr, just like looking at a image on your computer and seeing it in real life. you get a little lag when pan around or subjects moving around, then the colors are a little off compared to real life.
-good quality lenses. although more expensive, more mirrorless lenses are built in a good quality since they are newer. almost every olympus lenses have good performance regarding kit lens or pro lens. the aperture plays a role in separating the pricing rather than sharpness.
-battery life is quite poor, I got maximum 300 shots with the camera which only lasted for less than half day. with wifi those functions turned on, it gets even worse.

Image quality wise, they are from different formats so comparing them aren't really fair. hope you can understand my not so professional kind of writing and comparison.

how about 550D vs A6000?

thats is another concern..flash photography..how do mirrorless perform with indoor flash photography?

i've read somewhere tha the a6000 can be use with any flash including nikon. if this true then it good, i dont have to sell my SB800.

btw i already put my gears in the market, but please keep the opinions coming as i may having 2nd thoughts on selling.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3410541

http://www.garyfong.com/videos/unleashing-...your-sony-a6000

looks like you are poisoned by the A6000.

Its AF system is like dslr level (some even test it against Nikon D4s), with 179 phase detection points and 25 contrast detection points.

It is a good camera with all possibilities. The downside is the battery only (most mirrorless has this problem), u need to have extra batteries.

This post has been edited by hensky: Nov 14 2014, 04:32 PM

You meant this video?


I don't mind carrying extra batteries since the weight of the batteries are much lighter than the DSLR.

This post has been edited by Xiia0Ban: Nov 14 2014, 04:35 PM

yeah a6000 is the reason why i had an epiphany about changing to mirrorless. i missed bringing my camera during family outing. need to get a 'smaller DSLR'.. i was sceptical but after read some reviews and play around at shop, i think its amazing..but i am still having doubts and concerns, hence this thread is made.

just to share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfjsG1NlGMo

This post has been edited by sallehsi: Nov 14 2014, 05:11 PM

Why not trying the x-t1? Maybe the AF isn't as good as the a6000

But the quality of the lens simply the best

My friend and I made the switch from Nikon and Canon to X-T1 after tried it.

Who is the one that hasut u guys?

Btw forgot to tell story that 3 of my friend switched to fuji after I showed to them sample image taken from my xe1 and xf 35.

Two of them with x-t1 and kit lens. The rest x-e1 and kit lens

And they just wowed when they saw the image on the computer

Quite a number of people
Then the design of X-T1 caught my attention, where the design is much different from other mirrorless camera.
After I bought it, I am impressed with the colour and IQ of the photo taken by X-T1 even though it's just 16MP.


This post has been edited by Xiia0Ban: Nov 14 2014, 05:47 PM

only tried the a6000 for few minutes at shop, looks promising especially the AF system, but not a fan of sony's lenses (zeiss is very expensive in comparison).

This is a very difficult choice for me

I have tried XT-1, XM-1, XE-2 for 2 hrs


I like XT-1 EVF, very nice, but XT1 is feels heavy.

The magnesium body was solid.

When I touch XM1 and XE2, the premium feel dissipated

Now still deciding A6000 or XM1

how good is fujifilm after sales support..i heard they dont have service centres in malaysia and all service job they use 3rd party or sent to singapore. how about video performance?

if i have to choose between these 4. which one is the best for all rounder in terms of photo and video

sony a6000
fuji ex2
panasonic gx7
olympus omd em10

price almost the same,

This post has been edited by sallehsi: Nov 15 2014, 08:04 AM

U "heard"?


http://www.fujifilm.com.my/contact/service_centre/


The service centre is in Shah Alam

From my experience talking to the salesman & the japanese manager, reading about them, comparison, looking at their lens roadmap, I feel Fujifilm is really serious, as a brand, and quality-wise too.

oh sorry..i didnt check that..yeah i heard from a 'sony' fan shop..they said shah alam is their distributor..not service center. again correct me if im wrong.

and also, is it worth to consider samsung nx30.