You sure about that ( tail growing back )???

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Added on September 1, 2007, 3:26 pmCould be both fungus and lack of sunlight

Some other possibility are - diet lack in vital vitamin / minerals ...etc

Before any treatment , advise given can you show us or just tell us how and where these two have being living in
As water condition could be another cause

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Sep 1 2007, 03:44 PM

I'm a beginner in this so.....they live in a beginners 'cage',the most common type and the water is filtered water,the only thing they don't have is sun light or the UVB,i think that's the reason why that became like that......after knowing some diseases and it's remedy,now i'll put them outside my house everyday to have enough sun light and also maybe to dry off the fungus...it's ok to do that right?

Beginner's cage as in those round with a coconut tree and a bridge type ??

You mention filtered water or filter in there to clean water or just filtered water used - How often is that water changed if no filter installed

You could try drying the fungus under the sun
But some kind of anti-fungus / anti bacteria for aquarium fish use ie. White spot special , General Aid , S1 , Iodine or even salt to be added into the water for a few days ( daily water change and new medicine added )


All the best

lotong is leaf monkey LOL..

Callagur borneoensis (painted terrapin) is occasionally referred to as Tuntong Laut. my friend call them tembikai lol...

you referring to Chrysemis picta? i don't know if their tail will actually grow back... plus there's risk of their genitals being cut off with the tails.

addition to the points u guys have discussed: proper basking site, to let the turtles completely dry off both the carapace and plastron.

p/s: i have experimentally raised turtles on Reptomin (as staple) and completely without sunlight, no problem. (not that i encourage doing this)

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Sep 3 2007, 07:34 PM

i gotta ask again ah...how do we differentiate between male and female turtles ah??

depends on which turtle you're trying to differentiate...

anyhow, for general sexing purposes:

i) males have concave plastron, females have flat plastron
ii) males have long front nails, females long hind nails
iii) cloaca on males closer on tip of tails, cloaca on females closer to body. males usually have longer tails

(the simple logic for the above traits on males are to help them mount females)

other methods:

i) in most species, females are bigger than males. so if any specimens had already exceeded male size, high probability is female.
example: Star tortoise - males are normally no bigger than 7-8 inch, females get up to 11-12 inch. However in species such as Orlitia borneensis and those from Heosemys genus, males are usually bigger (from experience with H. grandis and H. spinosa)

ii) coloration:
males more often have brighter color, especially during breeding season. Example: male C.borneoensis had solid red 'hat', male B. baska are deep black. Their female counterparts had much duller coloration:

please note that juveniles are usually not sexually dimorphic, so if any seller tells you how to differentiate baby RES through the color of their carapace, please smack them.

fellow forumers please add if i miss out anything.

thx for the info camillenoir...
but i still cant see whether my turtle is a male or female
i don hv a female to compare it to and i also cant seem to see it's tail la...

used to have tortoise
i let go in the pond already
cos its kinda big size

every now and then, there's still people letting go of invasive species in our waterways...

guys, please inform our friends and families that letting go of foreign species would disrupt local ecosystem, resulting in the loss of local species.

i'll start by putting it in my siggy.

i let go on a pond in PJ
got alot of tortoise there
so i think its okay

if everyone thinks it's ok then it wouldn't be ok...

nevermindlah, had happened. just don't do it again.

actually if one day our turtles have grown over the size of which we can keep in a tank ah then where should we let it go??
the oceon??

For local species can always release them to the wild; streams, ponds or forest reserve. Not ocean, freshwater creatures could die there. (however, please note that they might have contracted some diseases through contact with human beings, thus can spread them to other animals if they are released in the wild)

Problem is, most keepers don't know which species is local and which is foreign. that is why red-eared sliders had became such a nuisance in Asian waterways, they are more aggressive than most local species, swim better and a lot faster. They compete for food with local species, invade breeding grounds and causing ecological imbalance. As their numbers soar, the number of local species like Malayan boxie dwindled. This disruption had already occured for decades (as proven in todays WC market, in which RES far exceeds any other species), no need for us to add the damages.

chelonian keepers must remember that most turtles/tortoises would probably outlive us, so we have to ensure our kids would take care of them or have to get them adopted to good homes. If they had outgrown their tanks, best way is to buy bigger tank

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Sep 4 2007, 02:18 PM

the pond i that i release is full of tortoise wor
dunno ler..
next time if i am gonna release i am bringing it back 2 penang

Still wanna release LOL

find someone to adopt them 1st... releasing to wild won't do any good. no matter if you release in PJ or Penang or Myanmar, they are still not local. Unless release in US.

Europe had already banned RES, but Malaysia so slow in enforcing regulations.

don't u know what in penang got a temple for turtle, tortoise to release?
its not wild la.. got ppl feed them every day
some grow very very big and some has been there more den 100 years

Looks a bit like you..

I did post a basic guide in front, go and read it.

Turtle sis, not tortoise.

Or built a nice big place for them.

Not advisable to release them there, you can see a lot of shell and bones of dead chelonians there. Why? Lack of care and awareness about the animals there. You can adopt it here also, they are ppl that would adopt it happily from you.

Like uzairi said, not a good place to release them. As they keep all different species together without treating them or quarantining newly acquired animals, diseases and parasites are surely abound. last time i went to Kek Lok Si was about 20 years ago, i don't know the place now. the big chelonian you see there might be Orlitia borneensis, Manouria emys emys or other naturally big chelid, not the same as RES.

I have raised issues on a similar temple at MF last year, namely Sam Poh Tong in Ipoh.

The root of the problem is, people wishing for good things released turtles and tortoises alike in the pond there, indifferent to the fact that they are actually putting the chelonian on lifetime imprisonment or even death sentence. Many elongated tortoises died as a result of being released in ponds, while the emys clings on to life. Others, including endangered species such as Batagur baska and Callagur borneoensis literally live on the little amount of vegetables/bread that visitors bring. Not a good sight...

So the best possible solution is to find somebody to adopt, as not to harm both the turtle and the ecological balance.

i think maybe u guys can release them in 'FRIM', Selangor here. there is a few ponds, which full with RES only. haha.. (but there is a big biawak which fight with them) i saw it last time i went there, and they really fight. hoho....

HI guys, i need your guys help .. Help to to identify wat type of tortoise is this ... And wat's the basic things need to know ...