no no. what i meant was when you get serious in this hobby and have a vast collection of chelonians, you'd probably spent that amount or more monthly.

p/s: LOL, since when did land tortoises require filter media?

READ MY SIGGY!!!

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Oct 10 2007, 09:58 PM

the one near bukit jalil/vista commonwealth? prone to breakaway.

it's the same thing if you release them anywhere in this country... if everyone thinks it is ok to release just because everybody else did so, the problem will just get worse.

the rule is simple; once you bought a non-native species, you're stuck with it for life. either put to adoption or keep.

nevermind, not your fault if you don't know. it's those stupid wildlife/trade officer's fault for allowing the the import of tens of thousands of those RES hatchling annually here whereas the sales of those hatchlings is ILLEGAL in their native country. friend, that' why research is important

p/s: hey, i haven't tembak you..

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Oct 10 2007, 10:13 PM

i'd add something to infos Samperth had given.

the red eared sliders is considered ecological nuisance not only in non-native countries, but in the us itself. For example, introduced population had been known to interbreed with yellow bellied sliders (T. scripta scripta), thus wrecking the purity of T.s. scripta's genes. they had also been known to breed with various Trachemys species in central america and the carribean, including cuban slider, jamaican slider, etc, resulting in unwanted hybrids.

the whole European Union had also banned RES, fearing the ecological impact they might bring on native species.

in south east asia, res had been increasingly released by keepers since the late 1970s. the feral population competes with local species for food, basking sites, nesting sites, etc. in which local species are the losers, as res are faster and more aggressive than local species.

please also note that a single female res can lay 20+ eggs a clutch, up to five clutch a year. compare that to a malayan boxie, which lays only 2 eggs per clutch, 2 clutch per season. everyone can see the big difference in reproduction rate. and while our local turtles are continuously being caught and consumed on an alarming rate, more and more res are being brought in, and more and more keepers are releasing them. one day, we might not have anymore wild malayan boxies.

conclusion is simple; ban the sales of res here. if the authorities can decide to prohibit the import of common and ally snappers (presumably because of the ecological impact they might bring), they should have seen the bigger picture and ban the import of res instead.

yup bigger aquarium. judging by the size of the aquarium and pellet, yours seem to be around 5", so definitely a 3' or more aquarium is needed to provide adequate water and basking spot with enough aquarium height to prevent escape.

RES are active swimmers, should have some watery playground. the water depth should be at least the size of caparace length to let them swim freely. also note that they are avid baskers that need uvb, otherwise will rapidly develop metabolic bone disease. please check on corresponding caresheets on the internet.

under any circumstances, don't release it back in the wild.

read my previous post please.. its on this same page

DBT in kampung already... only transit in bangi/cyber for about a week b4 raya holiday.

DBTs have wonderful, adorable temperament.. like puppies that loves attention. even hatchlings are not shy to beg for food from anyone, would take food from hand and completely comfortable while being handled, not skittish/excrete waste at all. mine readily take mealworms, guppies, prawn, mussles, oyters and all sorts of seafood.

the only downsides are they won't readily take pellets, the husbandry requirement is quite strict and their market value is in 4 digits, not 2. (in US can get for 2 digits LOL, price multiply exponentially here)

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Added on October 29, 2007, 2:23 pm

northern diamondback terrapin - Malaclemys terrapin terrapin

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Oct 29 2007, 02:23 PM

yeah.. let's get back to bashing leslie..

hi, do you keep them indoors or outdoors?

if you keep them indoors and the res had become sizeable (2 years already), chances are you might find it hidden somewhere under table/chair.

however, if you keep them outdoors and it did escape, you're (willingly or not) contributing to the disruption of local ecosystem. period.

wait till you get these guys follow u around





or better still, this guy here: (oh my beard is twice as long now wahahah)




yeah.. they'll run from you and follow me wahahaha

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Nov 2 2007, 07:32 PM

yup.. way cool, just have to be careful of the bites. Those two species (Orlitia borneensis and Alligator Snapper) are the world's largest freshwater turtles.

cause Leslie's G-a... err.. not straight?

care to share some pictures?

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Nov 6 2007, 10:31 PM

wonder how long they will last with you.. WAHAHAHAHA

uzairi, bring your stars to my house la sometimes.. can play with mine

grandis LOL. good idea.. I have 13 grandis with me now, all sizes, in all nooks and crevices LOL..

13 + 12 = 25 grandis. wahaha that would be a WILD party









This post has been edited by camillenoir: Nov 13 2007, 09:49 AM

try diamondback terrapin lor.. or maybe orange headed temple turtles.. cute little creatures.... wahahaha

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Nov 13 2007, 10:34 PM

yup.. most people prefer tortoises compared to turtles.

however, i'd say that given proper initial setup, keeping turtles is a few times easier and less taxing than tortoises

bio filtration, chemical filtration through power filter, canister filter, etc. that sucks all the excrement in and pumps clean water out.. err ring a bell?

but leslie is so lazy bum bum he only use mechanical filtration the size of his pinkie.

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anything can be obtained here with enough funds .. you have anything specific in mind?

from 1st page

please do check previous posts. most people don't even bother checking them before posting questions, lots of infos would be missed.

plus quite tiring lor answering the same questions over and over again

please do not feel offended by my prior remarks.

reading previous posts before posting something is just common sense. discussing redundant issues every 3-4 page won't be constructive to the thread. the effort to do some simple search also proves your passion, and you'd come with more constructive questions once you do some research, trust me.

uzairi had compiled essential knowledge and posted them on the first page, reading them 1st would help.


please note that your room is too cold for reptiles, turn off that air cond otherwise long term complications will occur.

and change the filtration system for your diamondback to something bigger. that pinkie-sized internal filter won't help no matter how often you change the water (i come to understand that water quality in cyberia is a bit below average)

deyy thamby, when are you coming over?

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Nov 21 2007, 12:02 AM

we didn't mean you can't post/ask questions. and we sure won't ignore any posts!

the point is, do some readings/research 1st, only then ask questions. you'll understand a lot more that way and come up with more constructive questions. that would benefit both you and the thread itself.

p/s: try posting something in the Aquarium thread without doing any prior research, see if their answers are as polite and bearable as ours LOL..

he somehow made those cute little creatures feel like they are being molested.. those DBTs are terrified of him LOL.

(hey, there is more than one right? or just one left?)

wahahah.. sometimes leslie traumatize me also wahhahaha