So, if this theory about standing weight lifts causing you to become short is true, wouldn't the opposite be true as well? If you were to do lifts while hanging from Gravity Boots, would you become taller?

Sounds sort of silly doesn't it? Look at all the body builders and power lifters who are tall. Do you think none of them ever did reps standing up?

There may be some risk of stunted growth for those who's bones have not matured, but you would need a fairly agressive weight before that would become a concern for teenagers and older.

There is no doubt that after doing squats and things standing you may lose some height temporarily (1/10" to an inch usually) due to your intervertebral discs being compressed.. But when you wake up in the morning you will be back to normal. Hell people get shorter just from walking around all day due to gravity.

The fact is that weight resistance (working out) AND impact actions and weight bearing actions (IE jumping or running) lead to bone growth (IE increase in height). You can note that standing while you lift weights increases the amount of weight that you bear and therefore increases bone growth. Thats why a young gymnast will have greater bone density then say a swimmer (the reason a gymnast is probly smaller then a swimmer is just because thats the type of athlete that gymnastics is suited for).

I dont know is this consider funny or what. But it happened at MMU gym about last year i think. There was this guy, Malay i think, wear those wrist band thingy on the hand for those basketball player. He will try to do all kind of weird things to attract attention, i remember the last part was he took of his shirt inside the MMU gym, and there was kind of a lot of fat on his tummy and he trying to jump and jump around in front of those mirrors and the "extra ordinary" part was he did a few back kicks. YEAH!!! few back kicks (swing the legs from behind and all the way up, turn to front and to the head that kind of big moment) in that small place with packed of people and he did it few times and he was like trying to tell people that he is from taekoado or things like that.

I wish he would have hit Mr. Chua that time with he shirt off and sweating around.

This post has been edited by iDk: Sep 14 2006, 09:49 PM

urrr darklight u grow much after u do weightlifting eh? how long d u done it..u have big muscles on ur hand...

plus what exercise can remove the fat below the arm...above is muscle..but below is watery

hahaha, tricep extensions, close grip benches, cable.
all works the triceps, great stuff, dips too.

it's not watery, it's soft and fat........also can do cardio to cut it out.

well some argue that weight lifting during your teens (age11-16) will stun your growth, while others disagree....

some say its all just a piece of crap... but do you want to talk the chance?
if it does really stun your growth, you (Jedi) will be the no.1 person to experience it.
if it doesnt, then, yeah, its crap!!

but shouldnt this post be a funny story post message forum?

This post has been edited by L007: Sep 15 2006, 01:46 AM

I once dead barbel rows in the gym.
And so as you know, when you do barbell rows your butt's gotta like, stick out a lil and back straight and all right?

This guy saw me doing it, and he made a conversation;

Guy: What's taht for?
Me: The upper back, IINM.
Guy: You gotta wear a belt to do that, else you'll hurt your back
Me: But AFAIk, with proper form, it's fine. As long as my back's straight and I don't round them, i'm not putting excessive strain on my back.
Guy: No, you have to. Else you can slip your knee cap (Okayyyy......knee cap...barbell row, alright....)
Me: But you said strain on the back, why the knee cap then?
Guy: Because you have to bend your knees, you should just use dumbells if you don't know how to use proper form.
Me: (Kinda gettin bored) yeah alright, thanks. If I need help, I'll ask 4 it.

Continues to row with the barbell.....
HE f***IN COMES BACk!!

Guy: I said you should use a belt, or do dumbell rows
ME: Look dude! I know I'm really small, and I know I don't look like I know anything about weightlifting. But I think I'm smart enough to know how to do a barbell row really. Thanks anyway, but please, continue with your hardcore bicep curls with a belt
Guy: Kids like you always wanna act smart
Me: Yea and old newbies like you always wanna shed some knowledge.

It was really annoying......totally tiresome kena such fools.

lol@ old newbies!! haha!!

u just "termed" them!!

haha great job pizzaboy!

This post has been edited by carlsuen: Sep 15 2006, 01:48 AM

LOL!!! Where was it happened? In MMU gym? I wish to know that guy so that i can point my finger at his nose and laugh at him!

This post has been edited by iDk: Sep 15 2006, 02:13 AM

Jedi said he is 15.5 years old & he may not have reach his adult height yet (depends on genetic when is the growth plate close).

If continuous weightlighting, ur intervertebral discs will be compressed, === shorter height!! Though this is temporary, but continiously put the wrong weight on ur body, it has permanent effect.

Therefore, u can lift weight but need to be at appropraiate weight according to ur ability. It won't stunt ur growth. It may even help growth!! (eg. lighting weight less than half of ur body weight is OK !!)

Thats my research on google!!

This post has been edited by hootguuy: Sep 15 2006, 02:19 AM

Bone density is different fr bone growth !! High bone density means u have strong bone!!
Bone growth is mostly determined by growth hormone. Production of growth hormone is peak during teens (10-16 ), thats when u grow taller.

Injection of growth hormone is the only one medication tht prove to be boost growth (height) during teens!!

( U can take 1500 mg (max)of calcium daily to improve bone density but u won't grow taller) Therefore, NO calcium stated tht it encourage bone growth, there only state tht good for the health of the bone.

Sorry, need to correct u. My professional attitude (pharmancy student here!!)

Sorry, you may be a pharmacy student, but i'm in contact with natural professional Canadian, Australian and American bodybuilders, some who compete in natural and juiced competitions and are well over 6 feet. Terry Gallyot, Mr Asia is also one of my friends and I'm pretty sure he has been lifting at a very young age. carlsuen can verify this. Theory <results.
Most of them have been lifting at 15 years old and height is genetic. By the way, exercise physiologists and certified kinesiologists also disagree with this thoery. [b]Quit thinking in extremes. I'm not suggesting powerlifting of heavy singles or triples.
Sorry, but your logic is inherently flawed.
Btw, i'm a medical student and i can tell you, doctors and pharmacists know crap about weightlifting or else we'd have very muscular doctors and pharmacists all over the world who qualify as part time sports physicians. And you are definitely NOT a sports physican if you don't realize squatting and deadlifting increase the production of growth hormone as well as CNS force proprioreception. Don't believe me? Look it up. I suggest you try reading up Darwin's theory of evolution, genetics are genetics, period. I'd rather listen to a person who has been training professional athletes for longer than i have lived than a pharmacist student.

Have a good read:-

The whole notion of growth being stunted by weight lifting is
a myth. It didn't stunt the growth of Shaquille O'Neal, David
Robinson, Karl Malone, Michael Vick, etc. They all started
lifting in their early teens, and all have gone on to be well
over 6' tall and star in professional sports.

Dave Draper and Arnold Schwarzenegger [/B]started lifting very
young and both are 6'1" or taller. Lou Ferrigno started
working out at 14 years old at the height of 5' 9" and grew to
6' 5" - taller then anyone in his family!

So the answer is no, weightlifting does not stunt height growth, or
any other kind of growth, for that matter. There is no scientific
evidence to support such ideas and, in fact, books such as the
Russian, School of Height, suggest that weight training may
stimulate growth. The latest weight training studies done on
teens showed only positive effects.

I'd also point out that activities such as running and jumping
create forces on the body that are six to eight times one's body
weight. The compression forces on his legs and spine are far
greater in running and jumping than they will ever be in
squatting or pressing over head.

Not only will proper weight training not stunt growth, it allows
teens to grow up with stronger muscles and bones, along with a
healthy lifestyle. It certainly benefits any other sport they
engage in.

Even though proper weight training protocols will not inhibit
growth, the risk for such occurrences and injuries are just like
anything else. If you have proper instruction and a
well-organized program,,your chances are very low.

It is important to learn the basics of weight training and get
medical clearance from your doctor before you begin.

Careful attention should be paid to correct weightlifting form, and
not using too much weight or too much stress placed on the
joints. This is still true, of course for everyone, regardless
of age, and no one should ever try to do more weight than they
can reasonably lift, otherwise injury can occur.

Correct technique will reduce any risk of injury and develop your
strength more effectively than not training with proper technique.
The greatest benefits and smallest risks occur when 8 to 15
repetitions can be performed with a given weight before adding
weight in small increments.

Remember if you are going to exercise regularly always do a
warm up followed by some stretching. After your workout take
5-10 minutes to cool down and do some more gentle stretching.
Studies have shown that people who warm up and cool down
adequately have far fewer injuries.

This post has been edited by darklight79: Sep 15 2006, 04:25 AM

i have to agree with darklight here too.. alot of friends i know have started lifting since they were like 14-17.. and all are damn tall!! like 6'2" to 6'7"!!!

so although u maybe a med student ot pharmacist or chinese doctor or sports physician or whatever! i don't care what medical profession u're in.. but if u have never gotten under the bar and done experiments and research based on your own body, then u're persuasive power as a professional would be null to me..

but anyway this has been a long time debate and long time myth.. someone should clear this up once and for all..

aiyo~ we are getting OT again... anyway, why not join in the fun

I've seen a young weightlifter (about 14 yrs old) back in my hometown school, and that was about 12 years back. That time he was kinda short, I think about 5 ft only, but got muscle all over. He represent my state in Sukma also His dad is a state weightlifter also, and is around 6ft tall.
Bump into that guy few years back during our school reunion, and guess what? The muscles are still there, but his height is still 5 ft.

seems like shorter ppl will have some advantages in weightlifting, bcos they need to lift shorter distance compared to tall weightlifter

i'm closing this.....
completely OT.

yay it's reopened.

how bout a dude that pulls up his short's leggings until it looks like he's wearing the ancient japanese underwear called happi before squatting? GROSS.

And he can only squat 40kg. LOL.

my turn,
there's this big size guy wearing a BIG weightlifting belt, but only see him doing arm curl whole day then go home

oooh ooh there is one too in my place. He's huge, but groans like hell when he benches 60kg on the smith, with a belt. I know I shouldnt laugh but someone of his size groaning at 60kg is really funny, somemore smith machines make the weight lighter. Whats with big guys and belts? They treat it like the gym's fashion statement (huge misuse lol)

also got skinny smartass uncle telling me that 3 reps is too little I should do atleast 12. Told him I'm following a programme he kept saying "its useless, waste your time and energy" yea so how big have you gone so far? heh. lets see his face when I grow with the mark rippetoe program. I'm getting good results so far.

another guy who's been in the gym for 4 years but still look skinny, with only some definition at the arms. dont wanna end up like him. now thats sad, really sad.

Oh one clown told me this; "You should use the weight plates to elevate your heels so you can workout your (points to calves) also" *Stacks for me 2 plates of 25lbs plates*

jackass....if i lose balance and throw off 200lbs on his neck, i see he wanan support annot.

maybe your face are too friendly to him, that's why he busy body add some weight to your program. LOL!!!!!!!!!