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 Traders Kopitiam! V6

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kevraul
post Dec 11 2014, 11:55 AM

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eurosp, anyone?
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post Dec 11 2014, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 11 2014, 11:47 AM)
Magasale ... where are you?  rclxms.gif

OnG is more resilient than i thought... even though oil drop all the way to $60, all the weak sellers bailed out already?  hmm.gif
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i was expecting another megasale.. seems like oil price need to break USD60 before another panic sell coming in brows.gif

oil price do not only affect OnG counters tongue.gif
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-08/t...es-stalled.html
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post Dec 11 2014, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(holybo @ Dec 11 2014, 12:00 PM)
i was expecting another megasale.. seems like oil price need to break USD60 before another panic sell coming in  brows.gif

oil price do not only affect OnG counters  tongue.gif
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-08/t...es-stalled.html
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REAl panic will come when oil reach the $40's range. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Many oil companies will close shop, the survivors will win it all.. wink.gif
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post Dec 11 2014, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 11 2014, 12:08 PM)
REAl panic will come when oil reach the $40's range.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Many oil companies will close shop, the survivors will win it all..  wink.gif
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capex ady spent. the oil production must go on to recover their investment. i think those O&G new comers will suffer the most when it reach $40
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post Dec 11 2014, 01:16 PM

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With oil so cheap, why aren't governments taking advantage of the price to do more stuff? For example, large infrastructure projects in the US. I guess the problem is that no one knows how long the drop will last and projects take years to complete.
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post Dec 11 2014, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 11 2014, 09:10 AM)
I scared to play component stocks already...except for DiGi which is my cash cow stock


Right now they are paying out about 97% earnings, gearing is 110% as of last year.

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post Dec 11 2014, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Dec 11 2014, 01:16 PM)
With oil so cheap, why aren't governments taking advantage of the price to do more stuff? For example, large infrastructure projects in the US. I guess the problem is that no one knows how long the drop will last and projects take years to complete.
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well, Dr M also said, the people running our government are stupid whistling.gif

better we look for private enterprises investing offshore e.g. homer, karex etc and we invest in them
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post Dec 11 2014, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 11 2014, 11:47 AM)
Magasale ... where are you?  rclxms.gif

OnG is more resilient than i thought... even though oil drop all the way to $60, all the weak sellers bailed out already?  hmm.gif
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U mean ur BUMI Armada or SKPetro...or other stock?


Now NON OPEC(Norway) want to close their non profit oil field.....


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-09/b...orces-cuts.html




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post Dec 11 2014, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(holybo @ Dec 11 2014, 12:00 PM)
i was expecting another megasale.. seems like oil price need to break USD60 before another panic sell coming in  brows.gif

oil price do not only affect OnG counters  tongue.gif
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-08/t...es-stalled.html
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Bloomberg add some HOT OIL to MARKET HEADLINE

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-10/o...n-12-years.html

but no company bankrupt..we need someting like Singapore OW Bunder


the domino effect...can fell.. biggrin.gif

mine 2sen curse.



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post Dec 11 2014, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Dec 11 2014, 01:21 PM)
U mean ur BUMI Armada or SKPetro...or other stock?
Now NON OPEC(Norway)  want to close their non profit oil field.....
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-09/b...orces-cuts.html
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Not surprised, drilling in north sea is very expensive up to $80 bbl, so it is not worth it. The more of the high cost producers close, the better for the more efficient players.

Skpet's average drilling cost is $40 bbl, producing light sweet TAPIS crude, which fetch the highest price in the world. wink.gif

Like I say, it will be the survival of the fittest, highest cost producers will die, lowest will survive. When enough high cost producers die, oil production will naturally taper off even without OPEC and the market will rebalance itself.

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Tapis crude is a Malaysian crude oil used as a pricing benchmark in Singapore. Tapis is very light with an API gravity of 43°-45° and very sweet with only about 0.04% sulfur.[1][2] While it is not traded on a market like Brent Crude or West Texas Intermediate (WTI), it is often used as an oil marker for Asia and Australia.[3] The price of Tapis in Singapore is often considerably higher than the price of benchmark crude oils such as Brent or WTI (those commonly referenced in market commentaries). This is because it's greater aromaticity (i.e. higher ° API) allows for greater production of higher-value products (such as gasoline) from Tapis than Brent or WTI.


BTW.. Malaysia exports almost all it's TAPIS crude, and import heavy sour crude from middle east for refining into petroleum products. whistling.gif

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post Dec 11 2014, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(foxxy @ Dec 11 2014, 12:16 AM)
Technical analysis does not work when buying and selling is determined by news, the news of oil price to be exact.
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Hehe, well also not right to just buy on good news, sell on bad news ya? Since this oil price event, some stocks still considered 'ok'

As long as the risk/reward ratio is good and the systems suits you, then is ok. Most important is you know what you do and be discipline to yourself ba cheers.gif


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post Dec 12 2014, 08:28 AM

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12-12-2014 the megasale for OnG counters? biggrin.gif
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post Dec 12 2014, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(holybo @ Dec 12 2014, 08:28 AM)
12-12-2014 the megasale for OnG counters? biggrin.gif
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Buy your favourite O&G counter from Lazada at 50% off and also earn 12x B points! thumbup.gif
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post Dec 12 2014, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(holybo @ Dec 12 2014, 08:28 AM)
12-12-2014 the megasale for OnG counters? biggrin.gif
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Since we are nearby XMAS;

below...wishing list rumor i listen i heard
from BolehLand Investor for XMAS gift




SKPETRO wish drop below rm2,
BUMI wish drop rm0.80
PetDag wish drop below rm12


Let Sing Merry Xmas song...


» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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post Dec 12 2014, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(holybo @ Dec 12 2014, 08:28 AM)
12-12-2014 the megasale for OnG counters? biggrin.gif
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Why so happy?

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post Dec 12 2014, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 12 2014, 08:39 AM)
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Why so happy?

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XMAS and MEGA SALES before GST.

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post Dec 12 2014, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Dec 12 2014, 08:39 AM)
Since we are nearby XMAS;

below...wishing list rumor i listen i heard
from BolehLand Investor for XMAS gift
SKPETRO wish drop below rm2,
BUMI wish drop rm0.80
PetDag wish drop below rm12
Let Sing Merry Xmas song...
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Isn't the main objective to make money?

Buying 'cheap' stocks is not fool proof.

What is cheap to you might not be cheap for others...
What is cheap could end up much cheaper...........................



in short...... don't forget.................. don't chase a stock down.

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post Dec 12 2014, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 12 2014, 08:39 AM)
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Why so happy?

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im still in more than 80% cash holding. i invested small amount in skpetrol (less than 3%) to force me study further. i lazy to study if im not invested tongue.gif

of course i will not rush to buy. waiting to super mega sale sweat.gif
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post Dec 12 2014, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 12 2014, 08:43 AM)
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Isn't the main objective to make money?

Buying 'cheap' stocks is not fool proof.

What is cheap to you might not be cheap for others...
What is cheap could end up much cheaper...........................
in short...... don't forget.................. don't chase a stock down.

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Mine objective. didnt need to made shorterm money.
When oil drop below USD60; didnt meanz forever drop below never come out.

Human population still depend 70% as energy source.


When ever i can hold for 2-3year im happy to put and hold.
Keep CASH in BANK will is not mine objective; inflation will kill CASH value in bank.




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QUOTE(felixmask @ Dec 12 2014, 08:41 AM)
XMAS and MEGA SALES before GST.

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Just curious... what does your own chart of SKP?

For me... it looks damn ugly..... sweat.gif

Like I said before....
just imagine....
if the current trend (movement) is an uptrend and not a downtrend.................
what would rush to put a SHORT on the stock?

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