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post Nov 4 2014, 08:11 AM, updated 11y ago

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post Nov 4 2014, 09:02 AM

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For the Q to Q net profit comparison.

2014 Q4 was 6.689 million - 2013 Q4 7.987 million.

profits decreased by 1.298 million. ie profits dropped by 16.2%

Verdict?

Fiscal year end performance?

fy 2013 -- 17.941 million net profit
fy 2014 -- 24.303 million net profit

Net profit increased by 6.362 millon ie the company recorded an annual growth of 35.4%.

Verdict?

Dividends.

FY 2013. Homer paid 3.75 sen. (or a total dividends of 7.5 million )

Today Homer announced its proposing a 3.1 sen dividend for the quarter.
This brings total dividends for fy 2014 to be 5.1 sen ( or a total dividends of 10.2 million )

Dividends increased by 36%!

Verdict?

With increased of dividends, one should ask if the dividends is sustainable or not?

Last year, 2013, Homer showed that it had 34.7 million in its banks.
Today's report, Homer showed that it had 51.586 million in its banks.

Cash in the bank increased by 16.886 million or by 48.6% !!!!

Who was it that said that this was a cash printing machine??
Who?

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Final verdict?
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So Homer got the bad verdict from the market yesterday.

Stock was thrashed and it closed at 0.83.

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Is the beating down justifiable?
Or is the beating down a rash act from the market?


I know some are saying stuff like this beolow...

Yes, we know the net profits for Q4 was down a fair compared to its previous year Q4.

And yes, we know all along, the strengthening of the USD was a factor for Homer's excellent results the previous few quarters.

So accordingly, th other interesting note...

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When we leave out this USD X-factor......

From the screenshot above:

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The PBT of Q4FY2014 declined by 34% to RM6.233 million from RM9.44 million in Q4FY2013, mainly due to lower of sales and a forex loss of RM0.318 million in current quarter, instead of a forex gain of RM0.811 million in Q4FY2013.
So when we minus out the forex gain of 0.811 mil in Q4FY2013 ie 7.987 mil - 0.811 mil we get 7.11 mil.
And when we add the forex loss of 0.318 mil in Q42014, ie 6.689 + 0.318 we get 7.007 mil.

Which means it was basically a flat quarter IF the USD was a non factor.

However... I personally would NOT do such a thing. tongue.gif

Ths USD factor is part and parcel of Homer's business since it's an exporting business.



Furthermore, I do not think it's good to dig up reason for it's relatively weak Q4 performance. wink.gif

Having said that... as per arguement, since USD is a FACTOR in Homer's business (exporting business), we should be aware of the USD movements...

and in case anyone isn't aware of it yet............... the USD has but been extremely strong recently. sweat.gif

check out the USD/MYR chart.

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so questions now (for the immediate future) :

would the recent strength in the USD be sustainable?
if so, would it benefit Homer again?

Verdict?

Lastly.....

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Homer's AGM is usually in Jan....


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post Nov 4 2014, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Nov 4 2014, 09:05 AM)
What does the last sentence mean?

"Homer's AGM is usually in Jan...."

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Just stating the fact.

Well, the 3.1 sen final dividend is a proposal and it needs to be approved... and IF like previous years... that dividend should be paid in Feb ie Feb 2015.

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post Nov 4 2014, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Nov 4 2014, 09:31 AM)
AHB classified as PN17 , worth play the reversal? any opinion traders from here?
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What would be the catalyst for the reversal to happen?


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post Nov 4 2014, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Nov 4 2014, 09:57 AM)
so far i found none also, but maybe brother keow teow have some insight....maybe consider play some contra trading...for fun tongue.gif
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Try show some respect for some traders here lor....
I am sure many traders here do not trade for fun laaaaa....

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post Nov 4 2014, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(Le Don @ Nov 4 2014, 10:04 AM)
Bjauto, take profits or hold at current price?  whistling.gif

Any comments from traders here?
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If you want to take profits..... why?

Is it because you have gotten a very nice profit in a rather short time? tongue.gif




If you want to HOLD...... why?

Is it because you think there's more good stuff to come?




Is the charts showing any sell signs?

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post Nov 4 2014, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Nov 4 2014, 10:16 AM)
Oil price dropping wooo
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I think the USD strength is a bigger worry for 'many' companies.... sweat.gif

For example...

a company which has lots of USD denominated loans (for example AirAsia) it is a worry cos higher USD means they have to pay more in their loans repayment.
of course, this could avoided via hedging......

a company importing goods/raw material in USD....
higher USD ....means higher costs...............


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post Nov 4 2014, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(Le Don @ Nov 4 2014, 12:04 PM)
According to conventional wisdom, if a stock move up 20-25% in a short time, you should sell some to lock in the profits. Also, the stocks has almost reached the TPs of many investment banks.

But I will hold for the moment because: EPF still acquiring the stock, QE by Japan making the yen cheaper, and the charts has yet to show a head and shoulders formation. Also, I have a feeling there is more good stuff to come for Bjauto  brows.gif

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I do not practice conventional wisdom leh...
and I certainly do not pay too much attention to TPs....

I do not see any sell signal...... yet.

For me, if I have the stock, perhaps I might consider waiting.....
why?
The big money is always in the waiting. biggrin.gif
So perhaps wait until next reporting quarter (next month, yes?) might be an option. wink.gif
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post Nov 4 2014, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 4 2014, 12:05 PM)
New thread already, so long didn't visit Ah Boon

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cheh..... tongue.gif


want tipsy ah?????



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post Nov 4 2014, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 4 2014, 12:10 PM)
hehehe......  laugh.gif
I do not practice conventional wisdom leh...
and I certainly do not pay too much attention to TPs....

I do not see any sell signal...... yet.

For me, if I have the stock, perhaps I might consider waiting.....
why?
The big money is always in the waiting. biggrin.gif
So perhaps wait until next reporting quarter (next month, yes?) might be an option. wink.gif
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p/s.... I can be wrong one..... always.

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post Nov 4 2014, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ Nov 4 2014, 12:21 PM)
Boon3 open new thread and change title. You think I won't find you?
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Shiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttt!!!!

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post Nov 4 2014, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Nov 4 2014, 12:40 PM)
Easiest tip should be all of the O&G companies, which are rather obviously oversold. At the same time, it is also obvious that so long as the oil price continues to fall, the stocks will keep falling too. So the big question is at which point do you think oil prices will stabilize?
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Interesting !!!!

Me ....say....... wait and see is best option.

No rush.

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post Nov 4 2014, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ Nov 4 2014, 12:57 PM)
Hahah... yu can run but you can't hide....
Previous thread you ban me for asking tips. Now I see others asking tips here in new thread, so I come back to haunt you....
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post Nov 4 2014, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Nov 4 2014, 02:48 PM)
Sapura dropping quite a fair bit again.

Good bargain at 3?
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As per usual again................


DON'T RUSH to buy..................... tongue.gif




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Also as per usual again....................................

DON'T USE PRESET prices to bargain hunt........................ tongue.gif

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post Nov 4 2014, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Nov 4 2014, 03:09 PM)
Haha, 3.18/3.17
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What?
For this stock..... you want to challenge is it?

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come come...
bring horse come over....... laugh.gif
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post Nov 4 2014, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Nov 4 2014, 03:24 PM)
What sort of challenge  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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I have xilo idea. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Nov 4 2014, 03:24 PM)
What sort of challenge  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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You see hehe's rationale?

He's using the price where SKPet rebounded recently as the buy point......... tongue.gif

I think NOT.

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post Nov 4 2014, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Nov 4 2014, 03:35 PM)
Haha! tongue.gif

Not just recent eh, last year august also got, gonna form triple bottom!

Anyway, crude oil did break 80...
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Is this really the type of triple bottom you want to play?

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Imagine for a while.....

SKPet is FLYING UP....... instead of FALLING DOWN....


IMAGINE LAH.................................


the last time....

SKPet hit a resistance....

oh.... say ..... 3.17.....

say only la.....


anyway... just imaging what..... whistling.gif


now......

given such a case...............

would you say it's a sure thing that SKPet would not fly past 3.17 ?????

Would you use SKPet at 3.17 as a SURE WIN bet that it would fall ?????????????

Would you????

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post Nov 4 2014, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Nov 4 2014, 04:16 PM)
Haha will play or not of course not exactly at that price lo. Maybe 3.2x after successfully retest that area AGAIN and didn't sell down.

Err... you ask me to imagine when its below 3.17? Haha but now i can see its chart until 2012 wooo laugh.gif So cannot imagine for you laaaa

But if you ask me to imagine using RESISTANCE, then mostly if met RESISTANCE sure drop a bit then see successfully break (retest) or not loooo...

Some traders who entered may sell 1/3 or 1/2 of its position when met resistance and buy back if is a strong breakout.

As always, easy to say, hard to act, lol
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errr.... huh?




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never mind....





chase the falling stock then....


chase and believe that the stock will always bounce back as previously.................... whistling.gif





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post Nov 4 2014, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Nov 4 2014, 08:25 PM)
Silly to chase right? cheap is cheap. Like "we are selling shares in Hilton for US$0.35" cheap smile.gif
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Sometimes people cannot see the irony of it....

If the stock was shooting UP instead of down.....
would they chase to sell the stock SHORT at every resistance point? wink.gif

But when the stock is falling.....
they always think cheap is good.......
and they WILL chase to buy....
at every possible 'support' points.....

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It's a strange, strange world....................................

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