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TSBoon3
post Nov 27 2014, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 27 2014, 10:47 AM)
Yes, saw that. So unfair  rolleyes.gif
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LOL!

Why was it unfair? tongue.gif

Market no put up big sign and say Ah Lamb cannot buy what....... tongue.gif
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post Nov 27 2014, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 27 2014, 10:49 AM)
LOL!

Why was it unfair? tongue.gif

Market no put up big sign and say Ah Lamb cannot buy what.......  tongue.gif
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That time too scared to do anything. Hold and pray only tongue.gif

Not seasoned trader like you... am still chugging along sweat.gif

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post Nov 27 2014, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 27 2014, 09:59 AM)
gark is ALIVEEEEEEEEEE.... !  rclxm9.gif

hellooo ah Boon3  tongue.gif
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Lamby! I though you no more active... made any $$$ lately? laugh.gif
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post Nov 27 2014, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 27 2014, 11:00 AM)
Lamby! I though you no more active... made any $$$ lately?  laugh.gif
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Got make, but lost big on some counters. So all profits went towards patching holes.. and still patching cry.gif

Happy to see you around. A while back almost wanted to PM you to check up on you. Glad that all's well biggrin.gif
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post Nov 27 2014, 11:10 AM

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Adoi... Armada... sweat.gif
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post Nov 27 2014, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 27 2014, 10:35 AM)
Yup it was much harder to trade in general.

That one big bounce recently.... if you were patient enough... that was rather easy picking. tongue.gif
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Hmm if I am trading at that time.. would have bought some. nod.gif

But too bad missed it. laugh.gif
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post Nov 27 2014, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 27 2014, 11:10 AM)
Adoi... Armada... sweat.gif
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Why you buy so fast? tongue.gif


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post Nov 27 2014, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 27 2014, 11:14 AM)
Why you buy so fast? tongue.gif
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Hehe... long time no trade, finger itchy liao. laugh.gif

Anyway today is D-Day... either they announce, get Madura contract, delay contract or cancel contract. I think that is what everyone is fearing. brows.gif

looks like the market expect to announce negative results. tongue.gif

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post Nov 27 2014, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 27 2014, 11:10 AM)
Adoi... Armada... sweat.gif
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Armada gearing very high..
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post Nov 27 2014, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 27 2014, 11:17 AM)
Armada gearing very high..
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Much much lower after the recent rights issue.

But then again FPSO business needs to have high gearing to build new vessel. wink.gif

Most of their debt is secured with multiyear contract with asset guarantee, so there is very little chance of default.

Their capex will require at least RM 2.5-3 bil this year & next

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 27 2014, 11:18 AM)
Much much lower after the recent rights issue.

But then again FPSO business needs to have high gearing to build new vessel.  wink.gif

Their capex will require at least RM 2.5-3 bil this year & next
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but profit luxury..how come MISC look going up..LNG regasification at pengerang only ready 2016 ?

they hv secure business?


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post Nov 27 2014, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 27 2014, 11:24 AM)
but profit luxury..how come MISC look going up..LNG regasification at pengerang only ready 2016 ?

they hv secure business?
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Several reasons..

Number one it is rumored that they have patched things up with Petronas and the 4 new LNG vessle Petronas is building will be incorporated into MISC. LNG tankers have the highest profit margin for MISC.

Number two is that crude tanker index have shot up recently.. and now crude carriers command better pricing (almost double of last year). Crude tankers represents >50% of MISC's revenue and previously was money losing.

Number three, MISC is entering the lucrative FPSO market with joint venture with Petronas ... and have several rolling out soon. Thier current operating FPSO Kikeh is joint venture with SBM.

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post Nov 27 2014, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 27 2014, 11:29 AM)
Several reasons..

Number one it is rumored that they have patched things up with Petronas and the 4 new LNG vessle Petronas is building will be incorporated into MISC. LNG tankers have the highest profit margin for MISC.

Number two is that crude tanker index have shot up recently.. and now crude carriers command better pricing (almost double of last year). Crude tankers represents >50% of MISC's revenue and previously was money losing.

Number three, MISC is entering the lucrative FPSO market with joint venture with Petronas ... and have several rolling out soon. Thier current operating FPSO Kikeh is joint venture with SBM.
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MISC is better than Armada

interessting article of Pengerang

http://www.2b1stconsulting.com/dialog-and-...g-lng-terminal/

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post Nov 27 2014, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 27 2014, 11:33 AM)
MISC is better than Armada
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Yeah I agree... BUT... the price has run up from the reasons above.. all priced in already. tongue.gif
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post Nov 27 2014, 11:39 AM

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Anyone trade USA500 here? If there is, we shall work together.

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 27 2014, 11:36 AM)
Yeah I agree... BUT... the price has run up from the reasons above.. all priced in already.  tongue.gif
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Choosing MISC vs Dialog.

Dialog give steady divident.
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post Nov 27 2014, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 27 2014, 11:36 AM)
Yeah I agree... BUT... the price has run up from the reasons above.. all priced in already.  tongue.gif
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I bought Armada Last week... Should be a good price to hold.
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post Nov 27 2014, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 27 2014, 11:40 AM)
Choosing MISC vs Dialog.

Dialog give steady divident.
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I am looking at SKpet instead.. tongue.gif

During these hard times, a firm and large order book is required so the business does not dry up overnight...

Dialog.. price do not move much... not much bargain there. laugh.gif

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post Nov 27 2014, 12:38 PM

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wooo oil price at 72.77
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