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is "No Pork, No Lard" food shop still halal?
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arubin
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 Nov 4 2014, 06:37 PM
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I dowan to vroom here but I would like to point out that Muslims who absolutely insist on 'halal' certification from restaurants despite no pork/lard assurances are practicing a weird sort of discrimination.
Look, a restaurant wouldn't simply put that 'no pork/lard' sign up if they didn't look into ensuring that their food is consumable by Muslims (and not merely from excluding pig products). What else do you expect them to put up than? If they didn't make an effort, they wouldn't have bothered even as such a sign might deter Chinese consumers (who actually want pork) with no guarantee that it might attract Malays.
They are not actually allowed to state that their food is 'halal' without obtaining certification and that costs money AND yearly maintenance. They are not allowed to explicitly state that their food is consumable by Muslims either because that is as good as declaring that their restaurant is 'halal' and that is illegal too. So what sign are they supposed to put up if they don't want to pay for certification even though they made an effort to cater for Muslims? What else but 'No Pork/Lard'?
If the 'halal' certification is so important to you, well...its not as if the streetside nasi lemak, karipap, pisang goreng, lekur, etc vendors are all certiiced either yet you have no qualms about buying from them. How come? Because its sold by fellow Muslims? That just means you don't trust non-Muslims than, and isn't that a form of discrimination?
This post has been edited by arubin: Nov 4 2014, 06:38 PM
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ohman
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Nov 4 2014, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(arubin @ Nov 4 2014, 06:37 PM) I dowan to vroom here but I would like to point out that Muslims who absolutely insist on 'halal' certification from restaurants despite no pork/lard assurances are practicing a weird sort of discrimination. Look, a restaurant wouldn't simply put that 'no pork/lard' sign up if they didn't look into ensuring that their food is consumable by Muslims (and not merely from excluding pig products). What else do you expect them to put up than? If they didn't make an effort, they wouldn't have bothered even as such a sign might deter Chinese consumers (who actually want pork) with no guarantee that it might attract Malays. They are not actually allowed to state that their food is 'halal' without obtaining certification and that costs money AND yearly maintenance. They are not allowed to explicitly state that their food is consumable by Muslims either because that is as good as declaring that their restaurant is 'halal' and that is illegal too. So what sign are they supposed to put up if they don't want to pay for certification even though they made an effort to cater for Muslims? What else but 'No Pork/Lard'? If the 'halal' certification is so important to you, well...its not as if the streetside nasi lemak, karipap, pisang goreng, lekur, etc vendors are all certiiced either yet you have no qualms about buying from them. How come? Because its sold by fellow Muslims? That just means you don't trust non-Muslims than, and isn't that a form of discrimination? discrimination? thats the purpose ! |
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MR_alien
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Nov 4 2014, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(Night Fox @ Nov 4 2014, 06:22 PM) No wonder la KFC, McD, Secret Recipe and etc.. so laku here east malaysia..  yes.....but so sad for them...can't eat real food |
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SUSkawakubo
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Nov 4 2014, 06:48 PM
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Getting Started
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HALAL tak HALAL pun, u akan mati sebelum cecah umur 80
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SUSNight Fox
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Nov 4 2014, 06:56 PM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 4 2014, 06:47 PM) yes.....but so sad for them...can't eat real food Have you tried already the small chinese noodle shop at kg. air there?? the one beside the hotel, facing the old sedco seafood square. I heard the shop is halal and the noodle is fresh hand made live infront of you. And the chef is a muslim chinese from china.. quite gooding they said.. same row with Sri Melaka restaurant.. This post has been edited by Night Fox: Nov 4 2014, 07:24 PM |
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MR_alien
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Nov 4 2014, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(Night Fox @ Nov 4 2014, 06:56 PM) Have you tried already the small chinese noodle shop at kg. air there?? the one beside the hotel, facing the old sedco seafood square. I heard the shop is halal and the noodle is frash hand made live infront of you. And the chef is a muslim chinese from china.. quite gooding they said.. same row with Sri Melaka restaurant.. hmmm...not yet....seldom go kg air.....very hard to get parking there as well |
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toda_erika_II
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Nov 4 2014, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ Nov 3 2014, 02:41 PM) in sabah so far yes as long as chinese restaurant with 'serve no pork' sign even without jakim halal all malays will come and eat together with the other races there was once my dad bring a contractor from KL to sabah and he brought him to the local seafood restaurant no halal jakim although banyak melayu/islam makan he refuse to eat ended up bring him to mamak lel got mamak in sabah? |
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fabianz03
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Nov 4 2014, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Nov 4 2014, 07:13 PM) yeah. only indian population are those who work at mamak lel |
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