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> is "No Pork, No Lard" food shop still halal?

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post Nov 3 2014, 06:34 PM

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It's your own choice. Afterall, if you're muslim, you know one of the thing that muslim need to believe is the judgement day. If you take this things so lightly right now, prepare for the consequence. If there's another alternatives for halal food although maybe a little far, as for me, i'll go for it.
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post Nov 3 2014, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(fix24311 @ Nov 3 2014, 06:26 PM)
weird la...last time Jakim said sushi king no halal wor...because got mirin hmm.gif

hence why i eat at sakae sushi and edo-ichi laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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they never said that sushi king not halal..they say not halal certified
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post Nov 3 2014, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(Night Fox @ Nov 3 2014, 06:23 PM)
We Sabahan as long we see the food is no pork and cook with halal food.. we don't care if it chinese shop, indian shop or local bumiputra shop..
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post Nov 3 2014, 07:32 PM

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Ibadat sia sia kalau makan dari sumber tak halal bukan setakat makanan saja hehe.
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post Nov 3 2014, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(mrhulk @ Nov 3 2014, 02:35 PM)
i walk round -round jb....i see a food shop with malay workers, but no halal logo in the front of the shop....i can see some customers also malay.....shop only put '"No Pork, No Lard"' sign on the shop windows.....so is "No Pork, No Lard"= Halal?
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from my humble understanding,

halal - covers basic 3 requirement : -
1. no pork or pork byproduct (lard) used in food
2. beef and poultry certified from halal sources.
3. no haram additives in food prepaeation i.e. alcohol, mirin etc.

no pork, no lard - only effectively cover one requirement. :-
1. no pork,or pork byproduct used in food.
2. beef and poultry NOT CERTIFIED from halal sources
3. might contain alcohol in food preparation.

in order to ascertain which one is safe for consumption, please use ur own brain and consider. depends on your level of piety.

This post has been edited by shenonymous: Nov 3 2014, 07:48 PM
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post Nov 3 2014, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(falzehope @ Nov 3 2014, 03:46 PM)
waste time yes

waste money no

you can attract alot more customers with halal logo instead of only your own kind
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Malay aren't adventures in eating....eat only those few simple food...yang penting gula kena banyak starch kena banyak...
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post Nov 3 2014, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Nov 3 2014, 02:38 PM)
No. I mean beer isn't halal but it doesn't fall under pork or lard products.

Halal food falls under a complex set of rules.

But usually even if restaurant don't post "no pok, no lard" I still eat hahahaha!
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same... coz normally hawker don use alcohol in cooking... just take seafood... and beef n ayam also can get from halal source
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post Nov 3 2014, 10:47 PM

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no pork, no lard, but got other stuff brows.gif


so how ?
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post Nov 3 2014, 10:49 PM

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Red Lobster Restoran in The Intermark, serve beer n Alchohol.... but I see lots of malays eat there (mean not alcohol... only food) I read that muslims eating in a placer where alcohol served is haram ??

mohon ustaz's of /k explain?
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post Nov 3 2014, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Nov 3 2014, 02:43 PM)
Sushi King non Halal dishes (that use Sake) is mentioned properly.
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i dont eat at sushi king, but let me get this right... some sushi king dishes uses sake which is not halal, but mentioned properly.

That literally means the outlet serves non-halal food, but its still halal to eat there?
Is it given hahal logo by jakim?
Are their preparation area is separated, with diff sets of tools, plates, ect?

Why can it be halal, but indian shop which don't cook pork, who don't ear pork generally, who uses all sorts of halal ingredient is still considered not halal? Mende logic korang nie. sesat agama betul doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Nov 3 2014, 10:55 PM

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saya yakin jadi saya makan..
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post Nov 3 2014, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(jaymansion @ Nov 3 2014, 10:43 PM)
Malay aren't adventures in eating....eat only those few simple food...yang penting gula kena banyak starch kena banyak...
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The last part isnt an indian thing?

Maybe thats why culinary, the food is very boring and not very varied. Say compared to the koreans.

Btw, pork is king in korea.

Google sam gyap sal for reference.
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post Nov 3 2014, 10:56 PM

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post Nov 3 2014, 11:06 PM

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halal logos usually complicate things for food business with stringent standards, severe penalties and yearly license renewals instead of being business friendly. Thus, many businesses couldn't be bothered about going to JAKIM for their halal-logo accreditation

there was even one point when JAKIM refuse to recognise halal logos of other muslim bodies if we look back at the Golden Churn butter case.

halal license is easy money

goyang kaki dapat duit every year

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post Nov 3 2014, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ Nov 3 2014, 02:41 PM)
in sabah so far yes
as long as chinese restaurant with 'serve no pork' sign even without jakim halal
all malays will come and eat together with the other races
there was once my dad bring a contractor from KL to sabah and he brought him to the local seafood restaurant
no halal jakim although banyak melayu/islam makan he refuse to eat
ended up bring him to mamak lel
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same principal apply at sarawak
makes me awkward everytime
esp once I'm back at hometown
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post Nov 3 2014, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(jaymansion @ Nov 3 2014, 10:43 PM)
Malay aren't adventures in eating....eat only those few simple food...yang penting gula kena banyak starch kena banyak...
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oh hai you must be malay
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post Nov 3 2014, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(Night Fox @ Nov 3 2014, 06:23 PM)
We Sabahan as long we see the food is no pork and cook with halal food.. we don't care if it chinese shop, indian shop or local bumiputra shop..
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thats why west malaysian that come here to work
everyday literally KFC, pizza hut, MCD, secret recipe...those restaurant
they dn't even dare to try tongue.gif
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post Nov 3 2014, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(cruel_boy @ Nov 3 2014, 10:54 PM)
i dont eat at sushi king, but let me get this right... some sushi king dishes uses sake which is not halal, but mentioned properly.

That literally means the outlet serves non-halal food, but its still halal to eat there?
Is it given hahal logo by jakim?
Are their preparation area is separated, with diff sets of tools, plates, ect?

Why can it be halal, but indian shop which don't cook pork, who don't ear pork generally, who uses all sorts of halal ingredient is still considered not halal? Mende logic korang nie. sesat agama betul  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Maybe since all this issue, Sushi King now never use sake or whatever for its food.

I checked the menu also no mention oledi...and the faqs also mention they are not using all this 'non halal' stuff.

So can go and eat therelor

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Halal Issue

Are Sushi King Restaurants Halal certified by JAKIM?
We are not Halal certified restaurant. No Mirin is used for food preparation in our restaurants. Our poultry products such as chicken and beef are Halal-certified.

Are the food products served suitable for Muslim’s consumption?
All our foods are pork-free (no pork or pork derivatives used) and no added alcohol (No Mirin)


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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Nov 3 2014, 01:54 PM)
And that my friends is the difference between the East and West Malaysia Muslim....
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post Nov 4 2014, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(JoGaki @ Nov 3 2014, 10:49 PM)
Red Lobster Restoran in The Intermark, serve beer n Alchohol.... but I see lots of malays eat there (mean not alcohol... only food) I read that muslims eating in a placer where alcohol served is haram ??

mohon ustaz's of /k explain?
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If you go abroad like UK its also like that....Pak Arab shops no serve pork But in front sure got Bar one.....and they are allowed to bring the drinks to the makan table.

If cannot find arab shops (like in US), Jew shops also is an option if got nothing else to eat.

This post has been edited by azbro: Nov 4 2014, 12:12 AM

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