I dowan to vroom here but I would like to point out that Muslims who absolutely insist on 'halal' certification from restaurants despite no pork/lard assurances are practicing a weird sort of discrimination.

Look, a restaurant wouldn't simply put that 'no pork/lard' sign up if they didn't look into ensuring that their food is consumable by Muslims (and not merely from excluding pig products). What else do you expect them to put up than? If they didn't make an effort, they wouldn't have bothered even as such a sign might deter Chinese consumers (who actually want pork) with no guarantee that it might attract Malays.

They are not actually allowed to state that their food is 'halal' without obtaining certification and that costs money AND yearly maintenance. They are not allowed to explicitly state that their food is consumable by Muslims either because that is as good as declaring that their restaurant is 'halal' and that is illegal too. So what sign are they supposed to put up if they don't want to pay for certification even though they made an effort to cater for Muslims? What else but 'No Pork/Lard'?

If the 'halal' certification is so important to you, well...its not as if the streetside nasi lemak, karipap, pisang goreng, lekur, etc vendors are all certiiced either yet you have no qualms about buying from them. How come? Because its sold by fellow Muslims? That just means you don't trust non-Muslims than, and isn't that a form of discrimination?

This post has been edited by arubin: Nov 4 2014, 06:38 PM