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 Maybank Islamic MasterCard Ikhwan Platinum/Gold, Another Fantastic 5% Cash Back Card

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post Apr 20 2015, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(victorywp @ Apr 20 2015, 01:53 PM)
what?! perhaps divide your cl out the other day would be better to secure a ikhwan...  sweat.gif
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I don't want already. So frustrated with them. mad.gif
Obviously they can't share with me the real reason but they listed the possible reasons:
1) Age limit (Not possible)
2) Salary requirement (Not possible, it is the same requirement as M2Cards Plat which I have already held)
3) Payment history (I always pay in full for all banks and never late for payment for Maybank or the most 1-2 days for other banks because sometimes I will forget to make Giro payment but never charged with late payment charges before)
4) Credit history (This is possible, due to BT in Aeon, this is the only I could think of) cry.gif

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post Apr 20 2015, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ Apr 20 2015, 02:07 PM)
I believe the active BT might be 1 of the factor which bank do not approve your credit card application.
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Damn regret of going into BT. mad.gif
I think I will have problem with my loan as well. mad.gif
One more month of BT and I will not touch BT anymore. mad.gif

QUOTE(Alec.Yong @ Apr 20 2015, 02:08 PM)
For those who has both Maybank and Maybank Islamic credit cards.

Does the CL of Maybank credit card will be affected if you apply for Maybank Islamic credit card?

For example,

Currently with Maybank credit cards, total CL is RM20K. When applying for Maybank Islamic credit card and get approved. Will the Maybank CL will cut?
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According to the CS, it will not. Conventional and Islamic banking are different, so CL won't be combined for them.
However, there is a forummer here was requested to split CC.
Others got them in a separate CL.
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post Apr 20 2015, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Alec.Yong @ Apr 20 2015, 02:12 PM)
I know it's separate...

But what am I facing now is...

CS told me that the CL from Maybank will be cut once the Maybank Islamic card is approve.. shakehead.gif
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Earlier there was a forummer here also got requested to split CL from his existing M2Cards.
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post Apr 20 2015, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(Alec.Yong @ Apr 20 2015, 02:15 PM)
The CS who entertained me said that, if the Maybank Islamic CL is RM10K, then they will cut the CL RM10K from Maybank, put into Maybank Islamic... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Alec.Yong @ Apr 20 2015, 02:15 PM)
My concern is... don't cut my Maybank CL.
Separate is ok...
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I suggest you to call again and another agent will tell you different thing. laugh.gif

I'm so disappointed by my application, especially I was pretty confident with Maybank as I don't have any outstanding issues or payment with them. Sigh. sad.gif
It's either 6 months later or never. Let's see when the time comes.

Meanwhile, I'll stop applying for new credit cards until my last BT payment with Aeon ends.

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post Apr 20 2015, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(victorywp @ Apr 20 2015, 02:24 PM)
if your income can cover all your commitments (obviously you can), you may ask to have a separate cl for your ikhwan without affecting your existing m2cards cl. but if they found out you are not, then they will reject your ikhwan application. if you are worry and want to secure the ikhwan card, you may just agree to cut the cl from m2cards to your ikhwan, then later apply to increase your m2cards cl. lol...
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Are you sure they will straight reject you? They didn't even bother calling me ask me to split my CL. In addition, the earlier CS was so confident that it will not touch my current CL.
Again if they really call and ask me to split my CL, I will not agree as well.

In my opinion, my application was rejected not because of CL. So, I don't think so CL reason will lead to one's application rejection.

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post Apr 20 2015, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(Alec.Yong @ Apr 20 2015, 02:24 PM)
I think the CS saying these to me might due to previously (about 4 years ago) when I cut my Maybank Islamic credit card, I did request them to add in the cut card's CL into my Maybank card. So now if I plan to apply Maybank Islamic credit card, they are going "take back" the CL from Maybank.. unsure.gif  rolleyes.gif
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laugh.gif Now it makes sense, they just take back what they deserve for. tongue.gif
I suggest you to call again just to confirm.
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post Apr 20 2015, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(Alec.Yong @ Apr 20 2015, 02:29 PM)
I think it was something to do with the CL reason. For the past few months I did apply for one local bank and one foreign bank's card, both also get decline... sad.gif  shocking.gif  shakehead.gif

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Well, if it is due to CL, then it is really unfair to me. I wasn't given with any option. mad.gif
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post Apr 20 2015, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(Alec.Yong @ Apr 20 2015, 02:31 PM)
Not dare to try unless I can get the confirmation from them...
Hard to maintain the high CL as per today... better keep it..
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Though my CL is not high but I don't intend to touch my current CL for Ikhwan card, it is supposed to be my back up card.
Life goes on it seems for me, till we meet again next time if I still want it. laugh.gif
I don't like to be seen as if begging for the bank(s) to give me a card.
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post Apr 20 2015, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(pisanq @ Apr 20 2015, 04:01 PM)
How to separate conventional CL & islamic CL without cutting some % from your existing conventional CL? If your current income only eligible for RM X CL and your existing conventional CL already assigned with RM X CL, your new islamic CL need to "eat" some % from your existing conventional CL so you will have two split conv & islamc CL at the end which total of RM X
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hmm.gif But why they keep telling both conventional CL and Islamic CL are non-related and they will not affect each other. They are independent and standalone.
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post Apr 20 2015, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(pisanq @ Apr 20 2015, 04:14 PM)
our total CL (islamic+conv) to the bank is one lump sum figure based on our proof of income. from this value, bank need to split to two different CL that will be independent and standalone
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They should explain clearly. Now my application is rejected just like that. sleep.gif
Though I don't know if this could be the reason.
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post Apr 20 2015, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(koinibler @ Apr 20 2015, 06:09 PM)
Also, don't think BT is a culprit.
Its all goes by case to case, very hard to know the real reason for the time.
I had my card approve(other bank) while having BT.

And I also been rejected for this card  tongue.gif .
Maybe because of M2U.
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You also got rejected eh? When was this happened?
What happened to your M2U? unsure.gif

So sad that I cannot add another cash back card in the near future. Oh well, if I'm not lazy enough then I'll try my luck again after 6 months.
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post Apr 20 2015, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(red_scorpion @ Apr 20 2015, 10:01 PM)
Fruities, sad case to you.
Btw, i just apply this card last friday, call to pre-approve no, but the maybank sales girl still requested me to submit Payslip to her since my salary is not credit in Maybank. The sales girl even asked alot of information from me (name, address and etc) even though I had saving, current, car loan, house loan, m2card with maybank. I did ask why you cannot check on the system as my information should be in your maybank system, but she insisted want to ask again as she didnt have computer with her.

Recently I had 3 times experiences of being reject while applying for CC (Pb, HSBC, HL). I did asked the CS before, they told me the same thing, they don't know the real reason, just can tell me the possible reason same as you. For HL cc, my fren is the salesman, he help me to appeal and it approved after that.

But I think all of the rejection is due to High Commitment as when I apply car loan last year, the officer did told me your commitment is high, hence I submit Stock Market and FD statement, then they approved after that. I think they will consider all your outstanding credit (loan, bt, installement) and compare with your monthly salary. Credit card application approval process should be more or less same with Car/House Loan.

Let's see whether my Ikhwan CC application will be rejecte or not, if rejected, I will ask the sales girl to appeal for me, and I can submit more document such as Stock Market statement or FD Statement.

P/S: All of my payment history are good, I also never ever pay a single cent interest or late payment to any Bank Loan or CC. My CCRIS records all are 00000. Just that the outstanding credit is high  doh.gif 0% BT is the culprit also which increase the outstanding credit  rclxub.gif
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Sigh. I also have car loan but the value is very low only. RM 580 per month, only around 10% of my salary. I have an active BT which is around RM 1100 per month and it's ending next month. Another thing is I cannot deny I have spent quite a lot on my M2Cards these recent few months but I still pay in full when the statement is due. sweat.gif Very bad for them to reject my application. Now I have a strong feeling that my CIMB application might be rejected as well. Let's see and I'm totally losing faith now. I guess I will start my hunting again after 6 months. laugh.gif
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post Apr 20 2015, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(red_scorpion @ Apr 20 2015, 10:20 PM)
But I think when they process your application, and check with CCRIS, ur CCRIS will show to them your total outstanding amount , for eg M2Card outstanding balance is 15000, (11000 from bt,4000 from statement balance[which you haven't pay it since not reaching due date yet]).

Just my 2 cents.

Or another reason which I suspected before is they will check all of our credit cards limit, and will not approve if total credit limit is high? Bank negara not allowed us to own too many credit limit?
I am not sure..hehe, I just requested OCBC to reduce my credit limit from 25k to 8k. But I not dare to terminate my rarely use OCBC and SCB cards yet, as I scare if I couldn't apply new CC anymore, at least these 2 card still can serve as backup card.
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My BT is with Aeon card which I seldom use and the only thing ties to it is the BT. Soon all will be cleared and I will try applying again. biggrin.gif
Just that didn't expect my application will be rejected though. laugh.gif
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post Apr 24 2015, 04:00 PM

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I just made another call to Maybank to understand further. Finally, they revealed the reason for my rejection and I'm not able to appeal due to this reason. So, I have no choice but to wait till it passes the cooling period which is 6 months later.

My reason was high exposure. In layman term, my income is too low to have two separate credit limits la. sleep.gif They evaluate my income vs my spending and commitment and I guess they feel that I cannot afford to pay them back. sleep.gif I responded that I have never owed Maybank a single cent so far, I don't see why I should be rejected. The guy kept apologizing and said it is management's decision.

CC maskedchan, since you suggested I called the CS again. tongue.gif
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post Apr 24 2015, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(CP88 @ Apr 24 2015, 04:06 PM)
Too many iphones purchase is bad for credit card history.  tongue.gif
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cry.gif That could be one of the reasons. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Apr 24 2015, 04:49 PM)
at least you get a better explanation from the 2nd CS..
since the problem with credit limits, instead of reject, the bank should call u to discuss whether you could reduce the credit limits on current card and having the new card...

maybank still much to learn on how to get more customer to spend..
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Yeah, what's more disappointing is nobody called me to inform about this news until I called to follow up. It was rejected on 16th April.
At least they should make an effort right? tongue.gif Even if they really did suggest me to split my CL, I won't agree as well. tongue.gif

QUOTE(victorywp @ Apr 24 2015, 04:52 PM)
actually bank also is doing business = to gain profit.

when they analyse you of having high exposure, it doesn't mean that they feel you unable to pay them back. it simply means that you may not be able to further utilise their cc (based on your current usage and capability).

your response of "never owed mbb a single cent" won't be helping, as they prefer you to owe and pay them interest.

you should have replied that you are actually considering to cancel "some of your other cc" to give way to this cc (if approved). this may give the cs a reason to put a note for an appeal for management approval.
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It's OK, Victor but thanks for the tips. I will take note for next rejections (if any *touch wood*). laugh.gif
In the meantime, I still don't know what are other cards to cancel yet. So yeah, not good to lie them too. tongue.gif
I already terminated the useless SCB card before I applied for this Ikhwan card.

I will wait till October then... That said, if I'm still keen by that time. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(chongaik82 @ Apr 24 2015, 05:17 PM)
At least you know the reason. Aeon take 2 days to reject my application with the reason "Management decision" shakehead.gif

Thinking to get the card for BT purpose now no hope....  cry.gif
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Rightfully they are not supposed to share rejection reason, this applies to all banks.
I hope the guy who shared the info to me won't get himself into trouble...

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post Apr 24 2015, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Apr 24 2015, 05:22 PM)
why dont consider MBB VS since VS also come with cashback features..
add on another card that having same credit limit, they no reason to reject you this time  whistling.gif
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I'm a poor slave. Still far from VS' requirement. sad.gif
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post Apr 24 2015, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(red_scorpion @ Apr 24 2015, 05:40 PM)
Frutie, you called to first level of CS, and he/she able to tell you the real reason? or they escalate the call to someone higher level?
I remember last time when I asked first level of CS, they said they dont know, they only know is rejected and they dont know the real reason..
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First level only. I called the other day and the CS can't share with me, just told me cannot appeal.
Today tried luck again, he did put me on hold for a while and checked with Ikhwan department and came back with the reason this time.
For the two times also called the Plat hotline.

QUOTE(hebe87 @ Apr 24 2015, 07:27 PM)
i also got rejected becoz of this.. too much commitment on housing loans..
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At least you have a house... Mine is just a car loan. doh.gif

QUOTE(maskedchan @ Apr 24 2015, 07:46 PM)
From what I heard, if your current credit limit already VS level (20k),u can get the card without hassle.
Perhaps you head to MBB VS thread and have a look
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Mine hasn't reached 20k yet but close to, maybe next time when I apply for CL increase, it will go to 20k. Then I will try my luck for VS. Thanks for the tips! biggrin.gif
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post Apr 25 2015, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(victorywp @ Apr 25 2015, 02:43 AM)
another reason of rejection may be due to other cc application you did recently around the same time when you applied for this ikhwan cc? did you any?
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Well, I only applied CIMB after Ikhwan which hasn't been approved as well.

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