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English Clubs Chelsea FC V30, BPL - Chelsea v Hull City 10.55pm #812

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post Nov 24 2014, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Nov 24 2014, 08:55 AM)
this is the best/worst scenario for me.

cuz United and us already found long term managers..

so we are out of the contention already..

imagine that if arsenal and liverpool both can get their hand on pep and klopp ..

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don't be too quick to judge. Rmb Moyes? I still rmb SAF said to the fans and board, give time to Moyes, I thot Moyes would be in for the long term, but in the end, kena sack juga. doh.gif

Glazers really impatient imho. laugh.gif

QUOTE(melt @ Nov 24 2014, 11:24 AM)
This I agree, we do wasted a lot of money on British talents. British player are overpriced as they were hardly anymore players like Terry,Lampard, Scholes, Gerrard and etc.  sad.gif

It wont affect much for Chelsea on the introduction of FFP as you guys are the most completed team I would say. JM only need to dump those overpaid players that is not suited with his style which he already did that(Mata, Torres and etc). D.Luiz is definitely the best transfer he made this season  laugh.gif
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That is well known fact. Look at Shaw, Carroll, etc. Heck, even if u are considered as homegrown player, u'll also get price hike, look at Lukaku. 30M+! And what has he won? ntg...... sweat.gif doh.gif
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This post has been edited by briantwj: Nov 24 2014, 11:35 AM
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post Nov 24 2014, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Nov 24 2014, 11:29 AM)
still hoping for him to reinforce that right side with more attacking power  flex.gif  flex.gif

and against big teams, no more of that last minute defending without a brain. keep the ball and waste away the last few seconds instead of keep getting equalized at the last possible minute  mad.gif
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Lel Chelsea has the most goal currently. Apa lagi Chelsea mau? laugh.gif

Give other clubs some chance wei
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post Nov 24 2014, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Nov 24 2014, 12:34 PM)
don't be too quick to judge. Rmb Moyes? I still rmb SAF said to the fans and board, give time to Moyes, I thot Moyes would be in for the long term, but in the end, kena sack juga.  doh.gif

Glazers really impatient imho. laugh.gif
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well, Moyes is not LvG.

plus United injury crisis is crazy this season to see their true potential.

thats why LvG will be here for a long time, at least 3 season.
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post Nov 24 2014, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Nov 24 2014, 11:37 AM)
well, Moyes is not LvG.

plus United injury crisis is crazy this season to see their true potential.

thats why LvG will be here for a long time, at least 3 season.
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actually pity them oso la. Keep chop and change the back 4 and back 3 due to injury crisis. Last week Shaw injured lagi.

I cannot imagine if players like Azpi, JT, Iva injured. then really abis. touch wood! laugh.gif laugh.gif Still not that convinced by Zouma yet. hmm.gif
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post Nov 24 2014, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(melt @ Nov 24 2014, 11:36 AM)
Lel Chelsea has the most goal currently. Apa lagi Chelsea mau?  laugh.gif

Give other clubs some chance wei
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lol most goal.. but dono why always feel so insecure when last minute against big teams.
unable to can't kill off games.
now also got risk of getting complacent

QUOTE(Ichighost @ Nov 24 2014, 11:37 AM)
well, Moyes is not LvG.

plus United injury crisis is crazy this season to see their true potential.

thats why LvG will be here for a long time, at least 3 season.
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he already say mah. judge him in 3 m̶o̶n̶t̶h̶s̶ years. laugh.gif
but i think LvG eventually will get be a force in EPL. M Utd injury crisis is really doh.gif
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post Nov 24 2014, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Nov 24 2014, 11:32 AM)
as for English talent, the only viable way is to buy them cheap..or develop from the academy.

actually this team that seem like complete taem, was rebuilt since the day we signed Ramires, that was like 2010..every transfer window we bought one or two quality singing..and not overhaul all at once..this team took almost 4 years to be like this..

basically we go the route of quality over quantity.

as soon as the new signings settle down, we let go of the previous batch slowly.. laugh.gif
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Yes at that time the 3 main core is still there. Cech, Terry and Lampard. I think I should include Drogba as well since he play a significant role in terms of goal scoring. If any of your core were sold at that time, you guys might be facing what we are currently facing and what Tot faced before.

We did the wrong thing which we bought quantity rather than quality. Last season we were called as one man team I still think it might not be the case as if we have Sturridge back we might not do that badly. (He is the only hope for me at least wink.gif )
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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Nov 24 2014, 11:44 AM)
lol most goal.. but dono why always feel so insecure when last minute against big teams.
unable to can't kill off games.
now also got risk of getting complacent
he already say mah. judge him in 3 m̶o̶n̶t̶h̶s̶ years.  laugh.gif
but i think LvG eventually will get be a force in EPL. M Utd injury crisis is really  doh.gif
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Bring in back Cech. He should be able to solve your LMG crisis.

I still believe he is better than Curtouis.
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QUOTE(melt @ Nov 24 2014, 12:45 PM)
Yes at that time the 3 main core is still there. Cech, Terry and Lampard. I think I should include Drogba as well since he play a significant role in terms of goal scoring. If any of your core were sold at that time, you guys might be facing what we are currently facing and what Tot faced before.

We did the wrong thing which we bought quantity rather than quality. Last season we were called as one man team I still think it might not be the case as if we have Sturridge back we might not do that badly. (He is the only hope for me at least  wink.gif )
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yap, core is very important for us, because our managerial seat before this almost like revolving door hahaha the core stabilize the team.

yap before this Cech, Terry, Lampard and Drogba

now we are creating a new core..in the process..but as for now..you can say..Courtois, Terry, Matic, Cesc and Costa..at least for our current system..Hazard and Oscar still vital but you can still play around with the lineup if those 5 players in the team.

and for me Liverpool, dont have a core now, and I dont really like watching Gerrard at DM, look very awkward.


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post Nov 24 2014, 11:54 AM

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Maybe we should start to develop our youngsters in remaining cup matches like Capital and FA cup. Zouma need to get some time to familiarize to partner with Cahill when Terry hung his boots. Solanke and Baker too need some time. Hopefully they are what Mourinho claim. Really want to see some player that actually came out from our academy can represent us like how Terry did. sad.gif
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after seeing MU and arsenal injury crisis we surely be proud with our medic team especially Dr Eva Carneiro tongue.gif

my facebook full of moyes wenger and rodger statistic... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Nov 24 2014, 11:41 AM)
actually pity them oso la. Keep chop and change the back 4 and back 3 due to injury crisis. Last week Shaw injured lagi.

I cannot imagine if players like Azpi, JT, Iva injured. then really abis. touch wood!  laugh.gif  laugh.gif Still not that convinced by Zouma yet.  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(melt @ Nov 24 2014, 11:45 AM)
Yes at that time the 3 main core is still there. Cech, Terry and Lampard. I think I should include Drogba as well since he play a significant role in terms of goal scoring. If any of your core were sold at that time, you guys might be facing what we are currently facing and what Tot faced before.

We did the wrong thing which we bought quantity rather than quality. Last season we were called as one man team I still think it might not be the case as if we have Sturridge back we might not do that badly. (He is the only hope for me at least  wink.gif )
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sturridge also kesian. dono what's wrong with him. injured everytime he go touch the ball during training rclxub.gif

QUOTE(melt @ Nov 24 2014, 11:47 AM)
Bring in back Cech. He should be able to solve your LMG crisis.

I still believe he is better than Curtouis.
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yep, imo i think Cech is still better, esp maintaining def. feel like we are in safer hands with cech.
but courtois is the future. physically better, and younger. with a more aggressive distribution as well, imo.
once he can manage the back line and learn as much as he can from Cech, we'll have a strong def for years to come
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Nov 24 2014, 12:54 PM)
Maybe we should start to develop our youngsters in remaining cup matches like Capital and FA cup. Zouma need to get some time to familiarize to partner with Cahill when Terry hung his boots. Solanke and Baker too need some time. Hopefully they are what Mourinho claim. Really want to see some player that actually came out from our academy can represent us like how Terry did. sad.gif
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so far Mou did everything he said.

our final frontier will be bringing youth to the first team regular.

and this will take a few season..we should be patience about this.

I also cant wait for this to happen.
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post Nov 24 2014, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Nov 24 2014, 11:52 AM)
yap, core is very important for us, because our managerial seat before this almost like revolving door hahaha the core stabilize the team.

yap before this Cech, Terry, Lampard and Drogba

now we are creating a new core..in the process..but as for now..you can say..Courtois, Terry, Matic, Cesc and Costa..at least for our current system..Hazard and Oscar still vital but you can still play around with the lineup if those 5 players in the team.

and for me Liverpool, dont have a core now, and I dont really like watching Gerrard at DM, look very awkward.
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Surprise to see that you didnt name Hazard as the core of Chelsea

As for Gerrard, he was playing there last season and he had not much problem with the team attacking most of the team instead of defending. This season was the total opposite especially the counter attack from opponents. He doesnt have the pace and power he used to have. Dropping him seems the easier way to go but is there any players who can play that role?

Plus there were no real leader in the team anymore if we did took out Gerrard. I blame BR for his stubbornness. The current formation is definitely not working anymore. This is going to cause his job if he still playing the same tactic.
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post Nov 24 2014, 12:08 PM

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For me, our core is Courtois, Cahill, Matic, Fab, Oscar, Hazard and Costa. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(melt @ Nov 24 2014, 01:02 PM)
Surprise to see that you didnt name Hazard as the core of Chelsea

As for Gerrard, he was playing there last season and he had not much problem with the team attacking most of the team instead of defending. This season was the total opposite especially the counter attack from opponents. He doesnt have the pace and power he used to have. Dropping him seems the easier way to go but is there any players who can play that role?

Plus there were no real leader in the team anymore if we did took out Gerrard. I blame BR for his stubbornness. The current formation is definitely not working anymore. This is going to cause his job if he still playing the same tactic.
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I know, haha for me he is a key player no doubt, but for the formation to work and fully function..we need the 5 players I mentioned before this.

If you switch Hazard with Salah or Schurrle, the team will still play exactly the same, the difference is whatever Hazard can bring to the team and them cannot, to be fair the system will work the same way but not as effective as with Hazard or Oscar laugh.gif

I kindda see BR getting into AW mould.. sweat.gif


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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Nov 24 2014, 11:32 AM)
as for English talent, the only viable way is to buy them cheap..or develop from the academy.

actually this team that seem like complete taem, was rebuilt since the day we signed Ramires, that was like 2010..every transfer window we bought one or two quality singing..and not overhaul all at once..this team took almost 4 years to be like this..

basically we go the route of quality over quantity.

as soon as the new signings settle down, we let go of the previous batch slowly.. laugh.gif
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We seem to for quantity and jackpot for our youth player. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Nov 24 2014, 12:08 PM)
For me, our core is Courtois, Cahill, Matic, Fab, Oscar, Hazard and Costa. tongue.gif
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might as well put everyone in your list lulz.

for me every player deserve the same credit as far the season goes. But there are still room for improvement particularly the killing off the game aspect. We still lacking on that i believe. The player need to be more ruthless yet compose when in front of the goal. Hazard a bit reluctance nowadays to try something special with this talent unlike his first season here. Perhaps too concern about maintaining the team shape and discipline.


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QUOTE(briantwj @ Nov 24 2014, 11:34 AM)
That is well known fact. Look at Shaw, Carroll, etc. Heck, even if u are considered as homegrown player, u'll also get price hike, look at Lukaku. 30M+! And what has he won? ntg...... sweat.gif  doh.gif
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oi oi, shaw was 18yo when we got him lar....same with luni. to say overpriced, then the name u putted aftr shaw is. icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(briantwj @ Nov 24 2014, 12:08 PM)
For me, our core is Courtois, Cahill, Matic, Fab, Oscar, Hazard and Costa. tongue.gif
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core will always be 3 outfield players lar. gk aside. in ur case, now, it'll be

cahill - fab - costa

matic/hazard/oscar/fab are all consider midfielders. so out of the lots, fab stands out. hence my selection of him as ur team core now. previously, it was

jt - lampa - drog

whereas my team, previously was

vida - scholesy - luni

now.......

?? - ?? - luni
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i dun see blind and carrick as the core. maybe not yet.

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Nov 24 2014, 11:34 AM)
don't be too quick to judge. Rmb Moyes? I still rmb SAF said to the fans and board, give time to Moyes, I thot Moyes would be in for the long term, but in the end, kena sack juga.  doh.gif

Glazers really impatient imho. laugh.gif
That is well known fact. Look at Shaw, Carroll, etc. Heck, even if u are considered as homegrown player, u'll also get price hike, look at Lukaku. 30M+! And what has he won? ntg...... sweat.gif  doh.gif
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Don't think it's Glazers impatient just that Moyes made his tenure unacceptable. Players, Fans and everyone also not supporting him liao. Hard for him to go on. Very clearly the players has lost confidence in him regardless of what they say in the press.


Barkley gonna go for 50m but is he worth 50m? Don't think he achieve enough to be priced at that.
Look at Cesc. He has accomplished so much more and how much you paid for him?

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