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post Jan 17 2015, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 16 2015, 12:39 PM)
to be honest, why bother about the word "humble"
if we cannot walk through the wall ?
if we cannot walk on water
if we even don't have experience that GOD can heal somebody when we pray, so our church leader say... oh GOD has other plan ?

meaning... i just success "little bit", share it, and you call it... not humble ?

how can our church grow and be an impact if the congregation is not success... at least like.. like me ?
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post Jan 18 2015, 10:28 PM

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OMG, de...I'm speechless...Can I laugh first?

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post Jan 19 2015, 09:25 PM

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I'm reading about this Tommy Tenney biodata. I dont like what he's preaching.

Oneness Pentecostals sometimes call themselves "Apostolic" to distinguish
themselves from Trinitarian Pente-costals.

Oneness Pentecostals accept the deity of Jesus Christ and the authority of scripture. But they reject the doctrine of the Trinity and insist that people should be immersed in water "in the name of Jesus" and not "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." T.F. Tenney (senior) himself insists that Oneness doctrine does not contradict the bible.

Other problems with Oneness Pentecostalism are legalism, elitism, and judgmentalism towards orthodox Christians. Oneness groups tend to regard people who have not been immersed "in Jesus' name" as unsaved and the UPC itself goes as far as to insist that people who have been immersed in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit must be re-immersed "in the name of Jesus", because otherwise they will remain unsaved. This encourages UPC members to think that their admittance into heaven is decided by their own performance rather than by simple faith in Christ's atonement.
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http://www.christian-witness.org/archives/.../ttenney13.html

Several months ago Truth Matters dealt with the UPC and its derivatives, a.k.a. "Oneness" Pentecostals. We proved that the UPC is a bible-based cult. Without going into great detail suffice it to say that the UPC believes in salvation by works, that one can loose their salvation, that one must be baptized by immersion in Jesus name only and speak in other tongues in order to be "fully saved."
T.D. Jakes also comes from a Oneness Pentecostal background and both of these men have refused to state publicly that they have renounced their former heretical beliefs. When these men have been pressed on their understanding of the Trinity of God, they both have responded using unclear terminology which can be parsed to support either a Sabellian stance or the orthodox Trinitarian belief. Neither man has given a simple statement indicating they are now Trinitarians. According to the Charisma article Tenney "honors his spiritual heritage," which simply means he honors a cultic organization.


http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/GodChasers.htm
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post Jan 19 2015, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 18 2015, 11:03 PM)
can you look at yourself first? maybe you are the 'problem'. continue to add value yourself and think women is not important to you.

MINDSET OF A REAL MAN :
1. Woman is Number Two, My Passion is Number ONE…
2. I Am Honest and Being My Self… I Don’t care if Woman likes it or not…
3. I Don’t apologize for the things I Desire… I Know what I Want and I Know
How to Get it!
4. I am CONFIDENT, ATTRACTIVE, CHARMING, and Yes, Woman Knows it…
5. I WANT Woman, but I don’t DESPERATELY NEEDING them…
6. I Don’t Allow Woman to Control my Life and Emotions, I Control Theirs
instead…
7. I am The MOST important Person in my RELATIONSHIP with Woman…
8. Even though I LEAD Woman, I LEAD with LOVE…
9. I Care and Love Woman… but once they’re out of Line, I Punish them…
10. I Give Woman TWO Chances to make mistakes… the FIRST and the
LAST…
11. I am NOT afraid to Walk Away from any Woman no matter how
beautiful they are…
12. Woman Lives under My RULES, and under my RULES, I will LOVE them
with all my HEART!…
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post Jan 19 2015, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 17 2015, 04:49 PM)
Actually it's we who inherited from Adam's sin. Adam pass it on to the future generation. Inherit means to receive from.

And when you say "and when we sin, there will be consequences" that is under the context of unbelievers who have yet to receive Christ.

John 5:13-14 - …13 But the man who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had slipped away while there was a crowd in that place. 14 Afterwards Jesus found him in the temple and said to him, "Behold, you have become well; do not sin anymore, so that nothing worse happens to you."


I'm talking about God's Salvation plan, How He sees it. The definition is important because it helps us to understand why.

I don't dispute what Pehkay mentioned and I understand what you're trying to say but, that is not my contention. Those are the characteristic of what is sin.
That it is alive and lives in people who have yet to accept Christ. Those who have accepted Christ, sin is removed away, washed clean. This is one part many Christian are still confuse, can be seen when they say, as a Christian you're still a sinner.

It must be understood from Bible perspective why God see us as sinners because of One Man (Adam).

We are made sinners because of Adam's Sin is the correct theology.

Consider this part in Romans which coincided with the devotion earlier. It gives the answer why.

18 Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. 19For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
Have you thought why in the Christian community, they say that no matter how much Good or Righteous thing you do, you can't remove your sin away?
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Is it because the Devil is constantly trying to tell us we are not forgiven by God due to our past sins?

Is it because we are constantly relying upon our own strength instead of God's strength?

After I repented, I read this verse.

1 John 3:8–9

8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.

From there, I have attended church and cg, removed my tattoos and meet new church friends.

But we always stumbled because of our sins. So then we need to rely upon God's grace.

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post Jan 19 2015, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 19 2015, 09:48 PM)
I hope you are not the one who laugh at Jesus when he cures the the blind so the blind can see or he cures the disability so he can walk.
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Why would I laugh at Jesus?

I'm just laughing at your comments regarding "Real Men."
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post Jan 19 2015, 10:06 PM

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I thought these are characteristics of Real Christian Men:-

1. STEP UP: Lead. Initiate. Be a man of action. Assume it is your job and your moment. Hate apathy. Reject passivity.

Ezekiel 22:30

“I searched for a man among them who would build up the wall and stand in the gap before Me for the land, so that I would not destroy it; but I found no one.”

2. SPEAK OUT: Silence in the midst of sin is a sin. Be courageous. Fear God not man. Speak the truth in love.

1 Peter 3:15

But sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence.

3. STAND STRONG: Don’t give in when you are challenged, attacked or criticized. (Reminds me of de1929, though he's doing it for the wrong reasons)

I Corinthians 15:58

Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your toil is not in vain in the Lord.

4. STAY HUMBLE: Be vigilant against pride. Get the log out of your eye. Don’t think less of yourself, think of yourself less.

Psalm 141:5

Let the righteous smite me in kindness and reprove me; It is oil upon the head; Do not let my head refuse it, for still my prayer is against their wicked deeds.

5. SERVE THE KING: Seek first His Kingdom, His glory, His righteousness. Hope in the eternal. Live for a greater reward.

Matthew 6:33

“But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.”

http://www.watermark.org/blog/how-to-be-a-godly-man/
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post Jan 19 2015, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 19 2015, 10:40 PM)
this kind of guy does not exist lah... prove me wrong please...
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Its not about whether they exist, its about what Christian men ought to be.


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post Jan 19 2015, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 19 2015, 10:49 PM)
in Christian belief, because eve eats fruit of knowledge of goods / evil. Then human are born with "reconstruct the interpretations"... allow me to borrow your words...

Actually "i am right / wrong" is a product of sin.

You are good to understand that baby is firstly pure. Good for somebody to discern there is difference between pure and not pure.

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my GOD Jesus would like to invest in your life. You want to help people, My JESUS wants you to help people 10x what you think in your mind. Isn't it beautiful that there is a GOD that wants to invest in your cause ?

JESUS is not something like what other ppl preach... cannot do this cannot do that... there is a lot of freedom in CHRIST... freedom to love, freedom to help ppl... you just need to know CHRIST from the right source... at least try me as your source... ignore these religious people that tell this cannot that cannot...

trust me... in CHRIST, there is a lot of freedom... how else do you think malaysia bumi moslem can enjoy christianity if not... "Being freedom ?"
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Dude, what are you trying to say? Can translate to Indonesia?

Semua orang harus mati karena dosa Adam, bukan begitu dong? Tetapi Tuhan Yesus sudah memaafkan dosa kita.

Yohanes 6:37-40

"Semua yang diberikan Bapa kepada-Ku akan datang kepada-Ku, dan barangsiapa datang kepada-Ku, ia tidak akan Kubuang. Sebab Aku telah turun dari sorga bukan untuk melakukan kehendak-Ku, tetapi untuk melakukan kehendak Dia yang telah mengutus Aku. Dan Inilah kehendak Dia yang telah mengutus Aku, yaitu supaya dari semua yang telah diberikan-Nya kepada-Ku jangan ada yang hilang, tetapi supaya Kubangkitkan pada akhir zaman. Sebab inilah kehendak Bapa-Ku, yaitu supaya setiap orang, yang melihat Anak dan yang percaya kepada-Nya beroleh hidup yang kekal, dan supaya Aku membangkitkannya pada akhir zaman."

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post Jan 19 2015, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 19 2015, 11:11 PM)
Weird ah. Even if you speaks to him in Indonesia, he always reply back in manageable English, it's like he refuse to speak in Indonesia.

Wonder why.  hmm.gif Malu? Tak Erti?
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Aduh. Mengapa si de1929 malu sama gue? Saya boleh bicara bahasa Indonesia sikit2. Ada faham.

Si de1929, kamu tidak perlu malu bahasa Inggris mu kurang lancar. Saya juga tidak pandai bicara bahasa Inggris.

Jangan anggap HS tidak boleh menolong. Percaya lah kepada Tuhan Yesus, dia boleh menolong.

Kamu harus berlatih membaca bahasa Inggris setiap hari.
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post Jan 19 2015, 11:37 PM

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Si de1929 malu apa sih? Sudah kahwin, ada anak. Banget malu? laugh.gif


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post Jan 19 2015, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 19 2015, 11:43 PM)
I don't think he could not speak english well since he is working in O&G industry. O&G industry is full of ang moh people la. If he could not speak english well, how can he work in O&G?
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A lot of people can't read and write proper English in O&G too. They still managed to get the message across.

I've dealt with Chinese uncles from Chinamen company...OMG...Even de1929's English is way better than theirs.

Maybe he can speak English well? Or he's just trolling with us all. hmm.gif
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post Jan 19 2015, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 19 2015, 11:45 PM)
Why Adam, not Eve? Eve the one who convinces Adam la.
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Then why Adam must follow? Free will. God gave leadership to Adam mah...not Eve.

Genesis 2:15-17New International Version (NIV)

15 The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”


Genesis 3:1-6

Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be open, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her: and he did eat ” (Genesis 3:1-6).

This passage details Eve’s dialogue with the serpent, it also reveals that she probably did not realize the serpent was her enemy.

In Eve’s reply to the serpent’s statement she leaves out the word “all ” from God’s original command (Genesis 2:16). She dismisses God’s specific command with a mere “we may eat. ” This is an incorrect impression of the truth. Eve’s representation of God’s command was not accurate, to say the least. She makes the command general, placing it in the plural.


God had said, “Thou shalt not, ” and she said, “Ye shall not. ” And she adds, “neither shall ye touch it. ” Eve merely says, “Lest ye die, ” whereas God had said, “Thou shalt surely die ” (2:17). Eve’s answer reveal her feeling that God’s prohibition had been too stringent and her love for God, and confidence and trust in Him, had begun to waiver. (Liberty Bible Commentary, Volume 1, p. 20.)

In reference to Genesis 3:2-3, Eve had a very clear word from God, simple and unencumbered by any details as to what her moral duty was. Whether this word was heard immediately from God or immediately from her husband matters little and cannot impair the power of that word upon her heart. Eve’s reply should have been an emphatic disavowal of the suspicion that God had been withholding good from man. Instead, it becomes a temporizing, a partial refutation, but at the same time a statement that allows room for the suspicion that perhaps God has not been as entirely good and gracious as they all hitherto supposed.

But as soon as one does not whole-heartedly and unreservedly trust God, mistrust is gaining ground and sin has entered. Eve emphasized the fact that God had allowed them to eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden. But a significant omission in her statement — “all ” — she was beginning to lose sight of the boundless goodness of God. Apparently, there sin took its beginning; God’s mercies are lost sight of.

In reference to Genesis 3:3, during the course of this restatement Eve veers from indirect discourse to direct with the words: “God hath said “; but unfortunately she makes a good case by sharpening and thus altering God’s original demand. Eve betrays the course her thoughts have taken — the attitude of the heart to God is clearly seen no longer to be one of perfect trust. To have suspicions of God and His goodness is a wicked insult of His majesty. Here the Fall took place. (EXPOSITION OF GENESIS, Vol. I, H. C. Leupold, pp. 146-148)

The fall of man represents far more than just the sin of one man and woman. When one throws a rock in a quiet pond, the initial splash is followed by a continuous sequence of ripples. Likewise, the Fall of man influenced the entire world and in turn affects us today. When Adam and Eve disobeyed, God judged their sin. They immediately experienced the full force of God’s judgment. After they died, the consequences of their Fall have rippled throughout the human race.


QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 19 2015, 11:48 PM)
How about christian women? is money important for christian woman? many christian women said cannot live with love but live with money liao..
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Not all Christian women... (I do admit LV and Prada is a minimum requirement for me.... laugh.gif )

We just follow what the bible teach...the right doctrine of course.

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post Jan 20 2015, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 20 2015, 12:00 AM)
Indons' english are way better than japanese, south korea or chinamen. In IELTS, their average scores are 7 while malaysian 7.4 and hongkies 7.8. I just don't believe indon cannot speak english well.
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Well maybe de1929 is an exception? That's generalization. Its like saying all Ang Moh are rich, which is not true.
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post Jan 20 2015, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 20 2015, 12:06 AM)
this! if Adam lead then they bashed Adam have egocentric liao.. Good girl will look man based on his spiritual to God not his wealth. However, many Christian women are not like that. It seems they go church to target rich men with their sexy dress  whistling.gif
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If men lust with their eyes, its not women's fault. Anyway, Christian women should not dress like a tramp when going to church.

Apply to men too, I've seen men wearing flip flop and tight shirt in church. Cannot la.

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 20 2015, 12:18 AM)
drool.gif  rclxm9.gif  you are just to promote feminism liao. We should know men fall in love with his eyes while women fall with their ears. even pastor cannot concentrate to give preach if many women wear sexy dress. it's a man nature with his eyes liao to be  drool.gif when seeing women with sexy dress. when women love money you say reality, when men love sexy girl you will call lust liao
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 20 2015, 08:18 AM)
assumed answered prior post
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Unconvincing answer.
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post Jan 20 2015, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 20 2015, 07:21 PM)
do u have boyfren ? i have someone who likes dominant type woman  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I used to...Whoa...I'm not a dominant type la.. doh.gif

But I don't mind kicking your nuts IF you are out of line.


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post Jan 20 2015, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 20 2015, 08:17 PM)
whistling.gif  that's dangerous  whistling.gif
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My ex bf taught me submission moves.

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post Jan 20 2015, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 20 2015, 07:37 PM)
Do not study Christianity? NIV is the only book allowed?

Kamu sudah sesat ka dong?
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Pokoknya di Indonesia, banyak ajaran sesat dong. Saya khuatir de1929 salah satu.. laugh.gif

Just kidding de1929.
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 20 2015, 05:01 PM)
I don't have time for religious activity that does not help me pay my bills to be frank. regardless money goes to haven or not it's just matter of money management.

if Mr A donate RM1000 yearly and Mr B donate RM 100000000000000000000 yearly... of course Mr B reward in heaven is bigger than Mr A.

again, only money management.
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That's just so wrong dude. You never read about the parable of the rich man and Lazarus?

Luke 16:19-31 New International Version (NIV) - Nah, since you like NIV so much!!!

The Rich Man and Lazarus

19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’

25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’

27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’

29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’

30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’

31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’

Jesus saw wealth as a gift from God to be used in His service (Matthew 25:14-30). Those who have been blessed with wealth must share generously with the poor (Matthew 25:31-46), and avoid the sins of arrogance (1 Timothy 6:17-19), dishonesty (Exodus 20:15, Mark 10:19, Luke 3:12-14) and greed (Luke 12:13-21).

Those of us who are blessed with wealth beyond our need have a responsibility to share generously with the less fortunate. We should view our wealth as a gift from God, entrusted to us, to carry out His work on earth.

If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him? (NIV, 1 John 3:17)

Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life. (NIV, 1 Timothy 6:17-19)


http://www.christianbiblereference.org/faq_money.htm



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