Actually it's a matter of perspective.
Sometimes a No can be wisdom. A No that's meant to protect you. Same thing with close doors or closed window of opportunity that could harm your life in the long run. God always look out for the best for his children.

However I differ in the perspective of the father answering prayer from Pehkay's opinion.

I believe God is in the business of answering prayers because we ask, God loves us and we are his children.

The word of God affirms this many times (Romans 8:32, Matthew 7:7-11, Luke 11:7-13, Luke 18:1-8, 1 John 3:22, Psalm 145:19, John 14:13, & Psalm 37:4)

But why God doesn't answer some of them? The answers can already be found in the Bible.

1) because we ask with selfish motives (James 4:3)
2) because we ask with wrong motives (James 4:3)

God will never gives us something that will destroy us.

A Very good example:

Why God doesn't give me a million $$$ when I ask him?
Why God didn't destroy that evil person when I pray to him?

These are the typical responses that many people who don't understand God use as an excuse to doubt him.
It's not that these 2 are not valid requests.


God can give you wealth, but only if and when God sees you're able to handle wealth with humility and not be brought to the lust or control of money. I've seen how God blessed Christian business man with so much abundant and how faithful is that Christian businessman to the Lord.

God can judge an evil person with punishment but only when the right time come, which could be either God's timing or the end of time. And we have witnessed how some evil people are brought to justice.

Our part is to continue to be faithful and to seek his kingdom and his righteousness first. Put all these worries aside and trust in faith.

Hope this helps you to understand God better.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 23 2014, 10:50 AM

i also wrote myself in the list maaa.... check my original Post #1402 still not edited... only mindset lah brother...

i see myself as a losers,
i see myself as a winner...

only mindset brother.. only mindset...

No you really have an issue with your pride.

You're even willing to use God as a leverage to ask people to help you clean your reputation?

How vain can you get?





This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 23 2014, 10:58 AM

How to differentiate between pride and miscommunication ?

The the nature of the forum (+ my english writing skill) ?

Forum don't have tonal voice to express warmth and gesture. Writing English, and sms and forum posting easily mis communicated

Ask HS maa... ? HS told me to ask help from ngai... give ngai a chance to invest in my life. Ok lah obey...

It's not the tone but how you express yourself.
To you everyone is wrong, you think you're the only one who is right.
That is why you fight with everyone who doesn't agree with you.
When people advise you, you don't want to accept and you retaliate by being judgemental.

You asking the HS but you don't have a base principal to rely on.
It shows when you think the HS will even go against his own principal as outlined in the Bible.

You have a baseless principal. When you do this you can use the word "the HS say so" for almost anything just to justify yourself.
It will be up to your whim and fancy. It's no longer about God but about justifying you and whatever you say.

That is pride.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 23 2014, 11:19 AM

if i express testimonial and people perceived as pride, it's their mindset has problem.

tell me when you argue with general fahmy / Mr Jul about speaking in tongue. may i say i copy u ?

still have flesh maaa... ok lah my excuse... also a message of hope so everybody can give testimonial regardless how many flesh you have

Your definition is not accepted. i defined pride as in Post #1397

My principal works. Mr Zul no more annoying us. It's a breakthrough by GOD's grace.

Who cares about your bible knowledge if it's powerless ? People needs solutions, not knowledge

Pride is about yourself and alevating yourself.
That was how Satan fell anyway, it was about him trying to elevate above God.

Do you see the same pattern?
Can be seen when you mention.

YOUR principal works.

and base on what you say above, you seem to hint;
it's no longer about the Bible or God, it's about you.
all about you.

BTW about your point No 2 & 5, I'm learning and more than willing to let people decide for themselves because
there are Christians from different background and denominations, so have to consider about them as well.

I have to say De_luffy is right in his post 1262. You don't seem to understand him.



This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 23 2014, 12:06 PM

Satan fell cuz he didn't gave glory to GOD. Satan stole it.

How many times i told everybody it's GOD's grace ? ok lah... i gave glory to GOD... satisfy ?

Why you ignore i wrote breakthrough by GOD's grace ? aiyoo... this is not fair lah UW... you made ppl think i steal GOD's glory. kindly note Post #1409 still not edited.

No Satan wanted to be God. That was the problem.

I made people think? My this response to you, I wrote it today.

Yesterday and the day before, the whole counsel of friends in here are all in agreement you are the one who is proud and is in error.

When? About?

I still remember 16 years ago when I am not a disciple, the brother who studied the bible

He: Do you think you are proud or humble?
Me: I don't know. Think half half.
He: No, choose one.
Me: I think I am humble.
He: I think you are the most prideful person in the world. Who got people who is humble say that he is humble.
Me: [more sober] Yeah, true also.

Thinking back, i feel its quite hilarious also. But, on the serious note, actually all of us has our own pride to overcome. Realizing and acknowledge that it first steps. Because this is one area whereby usually other people can see clearer than us. When input comes to us, the response of a (just examples)..

prideful person: No la, we got. I am not like that one. Actually ah bla bla bla....or just counter-attack the other person...you bla bla bla...

humble person: [regardless you think it is true or not...] oh, thanks for pointing that out to me...I didn't realize that i am like this ... i will reflect more on it and pray about it... or [if you think it's true...] oh, thanks for point that out to me...yeah i think you are right...[if you have hurt another person..] sorry if i have offended you in this way...i will work on it...

Then there is this thing i call it 'spiritual pride'. Basically, this group of people, we just proud because they are 'more' spiritual than others and thus looking down on those 'less' spiritual. It is kinda related to being self-righteous. The group of people usually do more , serve more, perhaps leaders in the church. They feel that they are 'higher ranking christian' than many other 'normal' christian.

"I think" - this is also something i learned from a sermon by David Guzik. sometimes, it is better to use "I think" than being overly-confident of your own insights or opinions.

I dig back my old post and maybe this diagram can also help us to be aware and how temptation to be proud is related to our 'success'.

http://www.findingsteve.net/chart_diagram_pride.asp



Roman 12:3 - New International Version
For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought , but rather think of yourself with sober judgment , in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you.




This post has been edited by ngaisteve1: Dec 23 2014, 01:07 PM

I don't want to be GOD.

I want to bring testimonial about GOD's grace.

It's obvious that you define pride as something including bragging about GOD's goodness.

Then all of you, UW, ngai, tina, luffy, sophie, and counsel of friends, have problem with your mindset right ?

you think i am prideful.
i think i bring testimony, a testimony that bring glory to GOD.

It's obvious that you define pride as something including bragging about GOD's goodness.

then how to differentiate between pride and bringing testimony about GOD's provision in your life ?

kindly note that i always bring glory to GOD. perhaps not explicitly, but implied most of the time to save time.

Again, if i don't bring glory of GOD's work in me, let me know.

Maybe you might want to separate it first.

I know it hurts when input comes to us, but if we take it positively, it actually helps us to be a better person.

Last week, my church bro pull me aside and gave me input too. He told me that i tend to stare at people. It hurts but then I thanks him for bring it out to me. I totally didn't realize I did such thing.

This post has been edited by ngaisteve1: Dec 23 2014, 01:46 PM

because of your post #1362, #1381 people think i don't bring testimonial of GOD's grace. at least tina conclude it Post #1394. it's you that start coin the word pride starting #1362, and people ignoring GOD's testimonial

see how damaging is your impact ?

let me demonstrate you 2 mindset:

1. negative mindset:
aiyooo.. money2x again... why celebrate christmas ? why don't feed the poor. this is pride lahhh... are you showing of your church here ? humble lahh humble... do you know Christ died in the cross ? it demonstrate humility... therefore don't be a prideful person... look at the devil. he wanna be GOD so he become pride first...

2. positive mindset:
Alright brother... let's support this one in prayer. Celebrate Christmas and do it so our generation can remember who is Christ, and can focus on our reason here on this earth... as Christ here for a reason, you also here for a reason.

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I choose to support you with positive mindset bro...

it's alllllllllllllllllllllllll about minddddddddddddddddseettttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

Lol ... I think you are confused with the word mindset ... it's good to have a positive mindset toward the Lord.

The "pride" that they refers to is not the mindset but rather your thinking that you are the hero, the strong one among the others. That, we who don't have "God's grace??" are wrong.

so now you are blaming me?

that's your conclusion lah... let's wait until few ppl confirm your point of view.

so are you telling me this mindset below is wrong ?
aiyooo.. money2x again... why celebrate christmas ? why don't feed the poor. this is pride lahhh... are you showing of your church here ? humble lahh humble... do you know Christ died in the cross ? it demonstrate humility... therefore don't be a prideful person... look at the devil. he wanna be GOD so he become pride first...

fyi... that mindset is valid as well. people needs food. demonstration GOD's love to people in street during christmas is more important than celebrating Christmas in church... i just label it "negative mindset" cuz i decide it negative. It's right / valid but negative fyi..

Do you see how you always sway aside things that don't go along with you? That is the very definition of hero.


.... did I say that other mindset is wrong? I only states that it's better to have a positive mindset towards God.

My point is that it is NOT about the mindset and its relation to "pride"

This post has been edited by pehkay: Dec 23 2014, 02:21 PM

Yes i know. just like you right.. ?

playing words.