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 Property Bubble & Its Social Impact V13, LYN famous DDD Vs UUU Thread

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bearbearwong
post Nov 5 2014, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Nov 5 2014, 04:33 PM)
Sori cant help u. Tried my best but cant find one so far. Ask bearbear to help.
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those who are holding expensive chips like bro Midfields 2 are one of the nice example...

name us the new launches which cannot finihs selling at this point... any of these happening in the past (bro showtime era)
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post Nov 5 2014, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 5 2014, 03:44 PM)
come on, whoe midfields 2 many owners, you one owners bising, coz based on 600k selling price but hoping 700k price, this is another project with reduced profit compared to others..

like bro showtime say

superbull 30% per annum

example, few years ago he like to use, 300k

so 30% p.a of 300k =90k pa

so 3 years = 90k x 3= 270k (3 years)

so plus 300k +270k = 570k

now superbull run is over, small bull still running (5-10%) pa [according to bro showtime)

so after superbull/speculation, small bull still running

so , after superbull, 570k,

5-10% from 570k = around (30k to 60k ) p.a

so 3 years after superbull  3x (30k to 60k) = 90k to 180k for 3 years

and the list goes on according to them,

so 10 years after 9according to briliant small bun run)

10 x (30k to 60k) = 300k to 600k

(300k to 600k) + 570k (superbull run efect) = 870k to 1.170 million

870k to 1.170 million, doable or not? after 10 years of VP?

few years ago =superbull (30%), this is due to demand
now superbull no more , left with bull ( 5-10%), this is also due to demand
Calculation roughly is correct. But I won't call 5%-10% bull run. I call it inflation.

As you can see, the faster you buy, the cheaper you can get and more profit you can earn. What are you waiting for ?

QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 5 2014, 03:44 PM)
both are motivated by demands, right? so has demand come down? there cannot be anyomore superbull run series after this... question is (even with 5-10% also not sustainable demand)...

got different than few years back or not? of course, demands losing up... mere wish to earn property, this is what trend? UUU? BBB?
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Talking about sub-sale market, market is not motivated by demand only. You have to see supply also. Whether people want to sell lower or hold on and wait for another bull run again. Don't underestimate the holding power of property owner. So, your theory of looking at demand only is flawed
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 5 2014, 03:03 PM)
Since there are no firesales, could you shre with us why new launches have so many unsold units? like OUG parklane? one south?

you are not helping green residence at all 2 unsold towers...

not to mention subsales, you can check with Amaya maluri units, 1 year mark still with depressing occupancy, your friend hold 2 units till no car loan if you remember, banker lai de, max stretch

why still spend time in bubble talk, since it wont happen, cant happen , and etc (according to your good selves) save sometime and buy more units around ya..
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Bear bear, why u still use this amaya as example? have u checked his latest status? have he sold his units? bankrupt already? u keep repeating old news and u think people wont change over time? u think everyone is like u, sit there idling waiting and may be next year also postpone marriage.... icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 5 2014, 03:56 PM)

Bank is not a charity organization, they have shareholders and bnm to report to. Like cc, personal loan and car loan, banks will repossess property as quickly. From npl to foreclosure will take 12 to 18 months, don't expect drastic drop until 2016.
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bearbearwong

Your comrades told you don't buy until at least 2016. Feel stupid to buy in 2015 ? brows.gif
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 5 2014, 04:31 PM)
can some list out married couple which prefer studio and speech like this in LYN?

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post Nov 5 2014, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 5 2014, 04:36 PM)
with losing of demands, means price cannot sustain already, superbull run has ended, now small bull run seems unsustainable also, where is the heading of property direction? since demand is losing? if you apply Jolokia reasoning, just hantam new launch, but sadly even new launch are suffering slow down with good package, subsales how?

no agents dare to comment? how come transaction low price still up?
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bearbear, since you predicted price to come down, your student comrade say price won't come down so soon.

Why you still plan to buy in 2015 ? Feel stupid or not ? tongue.gif
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post Nov 5 2014, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Nov 5 2014, 05:10 PM)
bearbearwong

Your comrades told you don't buy until at least 2016. Feel stupid to buy in 2015 ?  brows.gif
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that is a drastic drop isn't..
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Nov 5 2014, 05:14 PM)
bearbear, since you predicted price to come down, your student comrade say price won't come down so soon.

Why you still plan to buy in 2015 ? Feel stupid or not ?  tongue.gif
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why do i need to feel stupid, since drastic drop will around the corner, really waiting for drastic drop? you need to service a lot of loans before reaching it..
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Nov 5 2014, 05:10 PM)
Bear bear, why u still use this amaya as example? have u checked his latest status? have he sold his units? bankrupt already? u keep repeating old news and u think people wont change over time? u think everyone is like u, sit there idling waiting and may be next year also postpone marriage.... icon_question.gif
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you keep saying property in Malaysian will not bubble, but you keep spending time here commenting and not buying more properties out there..
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post Nov 5 2014, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 5 2014, 04:36 PM)
with losing of demands, means price cannot sustain already, superbull run has ended, now small bull run seems unsustainable also, where is the heading of property direction? since demand is losing? if you apply Jolokia reasoning, just hantam new launch, but sadly even new launch are suffering slow down with good package, subsales how?

no agents dare to comment? how come transaction low price still up?
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Malaian holding power too PowerFuLL!!

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post Nov 5 2014, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Nov 5 2014, 05:08 PM)
Calculation roughly is correct. But I won't call 5%-10% bull run. I call it inflation.

As you can see, the faster you buy, the cheaper you can get and more profit you can earn. What are you waiting for ?
Talking about sub-sale market, market is not motivated by demand only. You have to see supply also. Whether people want to sell lower or hold on and wait for another bull run again. Don't underestimate the holding power of property owner. So, your theory of looking at demand only is flawed
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so it is correct, and now change choice of word, its is now inflation better word... means no more bull run? investment cant work anymore? since 5-10% is now inflation, means it is just to counter the shrinking of money.. investment after super bull run stops ? change town? changing bull run to inflation? to save demands? cannot like this very foul & wrong (will be continous reminder after this) bull run theory has evolved into inflation, BBB

if this is the point you wanted to show, property has peak at end of superbull run... so all they are waiting is to cash out... if cant need to service loan already..

bro if is going to profit, you not buying and waiting other ppl to profit meh? you don't fool the property investors, making them to believe holding property is the right course, holding requires cost of holding it, maintenance and etc... longer you hold more cost incurred, units getting old, competition is eating in.. and most importantly, it is profit reducing..

ability to hold to prove a point is not a good investment idea.. this is another time i heard supply is more important than demand... have you heard ppl saying like this before?

where is Jolokia? no flaming you? demand is not dependable buy supplies. so do we have supplies massively in the market then? Amaya? GT208? OUG parklane ( and the whole of old klang road)

pretty obvious, from demand point of view ( as you promoted) and also supplies point of view (with proof)
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 5 2014, 04:38 PM)
those who are holding expensive chips like bro Midfields 2 are one of the nice example...

name us the new launches which cannot finihs selling at this point... any of these happening in the past (bro showtime era)
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U eye got problem or wat? Pipu ask fire sales. U answer slow sales. Knn. Ur brain or ur eye problem now?
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post Nov 5 2014, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 5 2014, 03:44 PM)
come on, whoe midfields 2 many owners, you one owners bising, coz based on 600k selling price but hoping 700k price, this is another project with reduced profit compared to others..

like bro showtime say

superbull 30% per annum

example, few years ago he like to use, 300k

so 30% p.a of 300k =90k pa

so 3 years = 90k x 3= 270k (3 years)

so plus 300k +270k = 570k

now superbull run is over, small bull still running (5-10%) pa [according to bro showtime)

so after superbull/speculation, small bull still running

so , after superbull, 570k,

5-10% from 570k = around (30k to 60k ) p.a

so 3 years after superbull  3x (30k to 60k) = 90k to 180k for 3 years

and the list goes on according to them,

so 10 years after 9according to briliant small bun run)

10 x (30k to 60k) = 300k to 600k

(300k to 600k) + 570k (superbull run efect) = 870k to 1.170 million

870k to 1.170 million, doable or not? after 10 years of VP?

few years ago =superbull (30%), this is due to demand
now superbull no more , left with bull ( 5-10%), this is also due to demand

both are motivated by demands, right? so has demand come down? there cannot be anyomore superbull run series after this... question is (even with 5-10% also not sustainable demand)...

got different than few years back or not? of course, demands losing up... mere wish to earn property, this is what trend? UUU? BBB?
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KNN u pusing here pusing there don't know what the hell u talking ...

Why can't admit you simply mistake for wrongly accuse me lie people midfield 2 can sell 700k which I nver ever say?

So simple things u pusing here pusing there
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post Nov 5 2014, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 5 2014, 04:31 PM)
can some list out married couple which prefer studio and speech like this in LYN?

Krandun -
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Look down on people again ...u sendiri very good meh?
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post Nov 5 2014, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 5 2014, 04:38 PM)
those who are holding expensive chips like bro Midfields 2 are one of the nice example...

name us the new launches which cannot finihs selling at this point... any of these happening in the past (bro showtime era)
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HAhaha I can see sour grape here...what is expensive chip? Midfield 2 500k is expensive chip meh?


Oh ya...u cannot afford mean expensive lo hehehe

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 5 2014, 05:52 PM)
why do i need to feel stupid, since drastic drop will around the corner, really waiting for drastic drop? you need to service a lot of loans before reaching it..
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Again ur eye or brain not workin properly. Pipu ask u y u so dumb dumb and stupid plan to buy next year whn ur comrade 2cent studnt confidently says price will drastic drop the following year? Either u r stupid or ur comrade talk cock sing song. So how to answer dis difficult question post by ur comrade? Better sacrifice ur studnt comrade and ask him go yaksi. He is embarrassing u.
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 5 2014, 03:03 PM)
Since there are no firesales, could you shre with us why new launches have so many unsold units? like OUG parklane? one south?

you are not helping green residence at all 2 unsold towers...

not to mention subsales, you can check with Amaya maluri units, 1 year mark still with depressing occupancy, your friend hold 2 units till no car loan if you remember, banker lai de, max stretch

why still spend time in bubble talk, since it wont happen, cant happen , and etc (according to your good selves) save sometime and buy more units around ya..
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Lu ada betul boh ? OUG Parklane already sell 97% lah , phase 1 only 11 units with developer, phase 2 fully sold off 100%, only phase 3 with about 100 units.

Still not good enough ah ? Any project sure got some unsold units, it could be developer own self keep some units to fix benchmark for their property, i know 1 project developer take up few unit to sell at high price so that those buyer can price their unit close to it, sales gimik mah !

Bear2 you really newbies in property lah.. whistling.gif

Why you wanna kepoh Amaya, thats how many years story liao, you got follow up with him or not ? maybe he now sibeh kaya drive benz leh,, thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 5 2014, 03:04 PM)
U no comment one on Midfields 2, probable selling price, someone want to sell 600k but hope to sell 700k..

do some of your one south calculation, bro midfields 2 need your enlightenment..

is it a good investment/bad investment ( provided it has been sold)
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If Jliew sell me his Midfields 2 at 600K when it VP, now it self i pay him earnest deposit liao,, rclxms.gif
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post Nov 5 2014, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Nov 5 2014, 06:14 PM)
If Jliew sell me his Midfields 2 at 600K when it VP, now it self i pay him earnest deposit liao,,  rclxms.gif
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I losing hope on Bearbear liao..homeless and earn peanut but wanna look down on people stay in studio doh.gif
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