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post Sep 18 2006, 09:55 PM

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Wonder why you bought 2 Edifier MP220, PcWork. unsure.gif

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Sep 18 2006, 09:20 PM)
i feel MX5021 some how emphasis on lower mid. it's like the satelite and woofer both playing the lowermid... making it very very thick.. and some how quite muffle.. as the woofer is mono, and the midrange is "terkacau" AM also have sort of problems. but not as serious as mx. if i choose a describ to sound of MX. it will be like going through slight V shaped EQ.where the lowest point is upper mid.

sound before/ after recable of AM. will need to check back, hear it for longer periods then i update with you. this few days kinda busy for exam + assignment.

a female singer voice is some how not as smooth as AM especially when the singer sing louder... it's like got "spike" along the spectrum , and not smooth.

i say this is kinda mx is a bad speaker, infact, it still quite impressive. at least i give it higest ranking among all computer speaker i ever heard. it is bad when compare to AM , according to my song, my taste, under the specific testing environment. =)
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well, i suppose in a way, its only natural. i mean, how many multimedia speakers out there ship with the *right* amounts of bass? even the aegoM has slightly elevated bass levels. the bass bloat is bound to get in the way of the midrange right laugh.gif

btw did you notice anything different [or anything at all, lol] with the twin drivers in the sats? was there any difference in terms of the sensation and overall feel of music?


OH, youre gonna do the with/without cable change comparison yourself? GREAT! thanks alot! thumbup.gif
oh and btw, if i wanted them, how much do they cost and most importantly of all, where do i get them?


hmmmm ive had the aegoM+0404+celine dion shoutings before and i can assure you, theyre werent fun AT ALL shakehead.gif

i still wonder whether this is caused by the horn loaded tweeter on the mx5021? i did a short [perhaps too short] read on horn loaded drivers a few days ago and apparently the problem is down to the horn resonating and colouring the sound. im thinking it resonates and colours the higher frequencies unsure.gif


i think its best if we agree to disagree on the hifi/computer speaker part whistling.gif laugh.gif



edited ugly spelling errors laugh.gif

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post Sep 19 2006, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(Omegaminx @ Sep 17 2006, 04:02 PM)
Hi KJ,

The VAL is nice with a warm & lush sound sig, bass is surprisingly punchy(I think no need sub for small room although VAL does sell a matching sub to accompany this line), I replaced the stock tubes with some EH(didn't try JJ). Got them from yuckfou > 1 yr ago in almost new form, they look very polished and built is reasonably good cf to some standard hifi monitors. I like the sound and btw, they come originally without grilles...(memang no grilles in original form and box).....I don't have all those gear plugged into 1 PC LoL (I am still a sane audiophile), some are relinquished to my younger sis, and some older ones in bedroom as multimedia, some in box, some unopened(Edifier RT1900 MKII rosewood not the MKIII black one). I am currently looking at the Swans M200 or the T200B(new with remote) but wondering any reasonable dealer in Singapore/KL?

Cheers tongue.gif
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LoL, and i was wondering how your setup would look like with all those laugh.gif
I'm a n00b about speakers, so i cant really help u there

Ah damn, those are the ones i was supposed to buy from the original seller
He ended up selling to yuckfou instead, IIRC

Oh no grills are cool biggrin.gif
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post Sep 19 2006, 12:44 AM

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hehe thank guy cos made my thread happening with information and comparison from audiophile...btw, i already bought mx5021 not gmx...cos for my ear..mx5021 sound good for me...and my target is to get mx5021 not gmx hehe...

p/s : your post can help other people beside me to choose mx5021 or gmx cos there price is not much diff...
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post Sep 20 2006, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(Silon @ Sep 18 2006, 10:41 PM)
well, i suppose in a way, its only natural. i mean, how many multimedia speakers out there ship with the *right* amounts of bass? even the aegoM has slightly elevated bass levels. the bass bloat is bound to get in the way of the midrange right laugh.gif

btw did you notice anything different [or anything at all, lol] with the twin drivers in the sats? was there any difference in terms of the sensation and overall feel of music?
OH, youre gonna do the with/without cable change comparison yourself? GREAT! thanks alot!  thumbup.gif
oh and btw, if i wanted them, how much do they cost and most importantly of all, where do i get them?
hmmmm ive had the aegoM+0404+celine dion shoutings before and i can assure you, theyre werent fun AT ALL  shakehead.gif

i still wonder whether this is caused by the horn loaded tweeter on the mx5021? i did a short [perhaps too short] read on horn loaded drivers a few days ago and apparently the problem is down to the horn resonating and colouring the sound. im thinking it resonates and colours the higher frequencies  unsure.gif
i think its best if we agree to disagree on the hifi/computer speaker part whistling.gif laugh.gif
edited ugly spelling errors  laugh.gif
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silon. now in rush. will read ur post back and reply soon. perhaps tomorrow

QUOTE(Godek @ Sep 19 2006, 12:44 AM)
hehe thank guy cos made my thread happening with information and comparison from audiophile...btw, i already bought mx5021 not gmx...cos for my ear..mx5021 sound good for me...and my target is to get mx5021 not gmx hehe...

p/s : your post can help other people beside me to choose mx5021 or gmx cos there price is not much diff...
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good choise... IMHO MX5021 is pretty decent.

silon about twin drive part. it make the mid range spread wider... and some placed need power, like suddent loud, it handel pretty well.....
will think back and tell u what's different.

about why i got 2 X mp220. i have to admit i some how enjoy it's mid range. when i doing soldering cable /study, i will use it to play some vocal heavy song, classical, musical . and i quite enjoy it.
and i buy another set to keep. =)
and i am a note book user. so i get portable speaker. As simple as that =)

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hmm... i think there are some cases where... you bought a speaker... listen for it a few times and then u love it.... but later... u feel the other way....
and there are also cases where u hate the sound when u first heard it.... or just not satisfying enough.... but then later u will feel that ur ears love that same produced sound of the same speaker.... weird huh??? some people notice it while their speakers go through the "burn-in" process... others may only felt the psychology change in them.... so it is still up to them... their ears and their mind... how they want to receive the new sound... and get used to it....
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newbie question here, what is the difference if a speaker is thx certified or not? in this case the klipsch is not while the al is. how does these two speakers compare to al cs21?
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post Sep 23 2006, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(Silon @ Sep 18 2006, 10:41 PM)
well, i suppose in a way, its only natural. i mean, how many multimedia speakers out there ship with the *right* amounts of bass? even the aegoM has slightly elevated bass levels. the bass bloat is bound to get in the way of the midrange right laugh.gif

btw did you notice anything different [or anything at all, lol] with the twin drivers in the sats? was there any difference in terms of the sensation and overall feel of music?
OH, youre gonna do the with/without cable change comparison yourself? GREAT! thanks alot!  thumbup.gif
oh and btw, if i wanted them, how much do they cost and most importantly of all, where do i get them?
hmmmm ive had the aegoM+0404+celine dion shoutings before and i can assure you, theyre werent fun AT ALL  shakehead.gif

i still wonder whether this is caused by the horn loaded tweeter on the mx5021? i did a short [perhaps too short] read on horn loaded drivers a few days ago and apparently the problem is down to the horn resonating and colouring the sound. im thinking it resonates and colours the higher frequencies  unsure.gif
i think its best if we agree to disagree on the hifi/computer speaker part whistling.gif laugh.gif
edited ugly spelling errors  laugh.gif
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by the way. i think... with the treble and bass level set to neutral at MX5021. the horn isn't colouring the sound quite much. and IMHO, as bright as ATP3. but slightly over power... very slightly. if can custom replace the caps inside the tweeter to tame it down. should be perfect. some how i quite like the twin drive mid range. it provide power compare to singel drive. where it can pump out some sound all in suddent... and can feel the power. especially when plucking the guitar string, it can feel how hard the people plug it. ( of course, AM also can hear =P)
and it's less distortion compare to singel drive. (1 drive lawan 2 drive, sure 2 drive win) some more. when compare to bigger driver speaker. the 2 X 3 " did provide more detail sound, i believe smaller drive can move faster in this case.
so twin drive i assume it can provide some detail than single bigger drive, and also provide louder sound than singel drive which is same size.


QUOTE(CGLegacy @ Sep 21 2006, 04:51 PM)
hmm... i think there are some cases where... you bought a speaker... listen for it a few times and then u love it.... but later... u feel the other way....
and there are also cases where u hate the sound when u first heard it.... or just not satisfying enough.... but then later u will feel that ur ears love that same produced sound of the same speaker.... weird huh??? some people notice it while their speakers go through the "burn-in" process... others may only felt the psychology change in them.... so it is still up to them... their ears and their mind... how they want to receive the new sound... and get used to it....
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but most of the time, if the person really used to the song, and love how the song sound like on his own systems. when he test it out on different speaker, he can immediately tells the different, as he always listen to the same song, and got strong memory about the song. and how it should sound like... in my case. if i don't like the speaker from first listening, i won't change much. i already make my self try to accept GMX and some model of edifier before i buy AM. (to save some money). but after all. i rather use back my old model altec lansing ACS295. or else i buy those i really like. i can't force my self, or persuate myself to love some sound. as least i can't accept GMX for almost 2 years arleady. tried time to time once i have chances, either in shop, or my fren unit.


QUOTE(techdroid @ Sep 23 2006, 03:30 PM)
newbie question here, what is the difference if a speaker is thx certified or not? in this case the klipsch is not while the al is. how does these two speakers compare to al cs21?
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THX is certified by lucas film that the speaker are capable to produce some effect accroding to what they want when they record the sound signal. do some search on google or wikipedia. there's a lot regarding this, and very detail explaination.
PS : BOTH MX5021 and GMXa 2.1 are THX certified.
and THX isn't everythings about good sound. =) there's tons of non thx certified speaker might sound better than those with THX.

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i see, thanks.
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izzit a waste to buy good speaker without good soundcard?? i'm using laptop and dunno wat is the brand of the sound card....
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post Sep 24 2006, 02:56 AM

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I myself cannot accept edifier though...PLEASE,no need to be angry.this is MY PERSONAL TASTE notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(CGLegacy @ Sep 21 2006, 04:51 PM)
hmm... i think there are some cases where... you bought a speaker... listen for it a few times and then u love it.... but later... u feel the other way....
and there are also cases where u hate the sound when u first heard it.... or just not satisfying enough.... but then later u will feel that ur ears love that same produced sound of the same speaker.... weird huh??? some people notice it while their speakers go through the "burn-in" process... others may only felt the psychology change in them.... so it is still up to them... their ears and their mind... how they want to receive the new sound... and get used to it....
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some speakers, they impress you on the first listen but if you listen longer then you'll feel fatiqued and so on, if im not mistaken these are called 'effect speakers' or something - shit stuff IMO tongue.gif

some speakers are just so low beyond your standard that you just feel like lambasting them like theres no tomorrow biggrin.gif

some speakers are actually good, but like things you didnt see at the first glance, you just didnt bother with them. later you grow to love them? laugh.gif

some speakers, they just sound down right right! thoroughly neutral, balanced, detailed and just so right! those are the speakers i want! drool.gif thumbup.gif

but at the end of the day, its all subjective and everyone has their own preference right? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(PcWork @ Sep 23 2006, 09:03 PM)
by the way. i think... with the treble and bass level set to neutral at MX5021. the horn isn't colouring the sound quite much. and IMHO, as bright as ATP3. but slightly over power... very slightly. if can custom replace the caps inside the tweeter to tame it down. should be perfect. some how i quite like the twin drive mid range. it provide power compare to singel drive. where it can pump out some sound all in suddent... and can feel the power. especially when plucking the guitar string, it can feel how hard the people plug it. ( of course, AM also can hear =P)
and it's less distortion compare to singel drive. (1 drive lawan 2 drive, sure 2 drive win) some more. when compare to bigger driver speaker. the 2 X 3 "  did provide more detail sound, i believe smaller drive can move faster in this case.
so twin drive i assume it can provide some detail than single bigger drive, and also provide louder sound than singel drive which is same size.
speaker might sound better than those with THX.
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i havent heard of the ATP3 before so i cant comment but the point i was trying to make was that the resonance coloured the upper frequencies and in turn created excessive sharpness/brightness. i cant say for sure, but if im not mistake this is a common problem with badly designed horns. i dont think there is much doubt that this is the cause of the 'problem' with the GMX.

wait, im confused with this one. youre saying the mx5021's twin drivers provide a better feel when compared to the aegoM, but detail wise they sound the same?
but there is a fine line between being detailed and being detailed because of being bright, dont you agree? unsure.gif

QUOTE(quinzzy @ Sep 23 2006, 10:54 PM)
izzit a waste to buy good speaker without good soundcard?? i'm using laptop and dunno wat is the brand of the sound card....
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definately. you cant do one without the other, but of course, when youre really tight for cash no one has a choice, right? laugh.gif

whatever the sound 'chip' in your lappy is [most likely an AC97] it probably woudnt be of much good if youre gonna pair it with >rm250 speakers!
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post Sep 24 2006, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(quinzzy @ Sep 23 2006, 10:54 PM)
izzit a waste to buy good speaker without good soundcard?? i'm using laptop and dunno wat is the brand of the sound card....
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nah. it's investment...

QUOTE(saiga @ Sep 24 2006, 02:56 AM)
I myself cannot accept edifier though...PLEASE,no need to be angry.this is MY PERSONAL TASTE  notworthy.gif
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well different taste.. =)
i personally can't accept all edifier. except mp220. =P
taste problem.


silon. about the detail of the MX5021 is not compare agains AEGO M. =P
it's compare to normal drive.
but AEGO M is extra ordinary case where singel drive has more detail then twin drive.
sorry for confuse.


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