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post Sep 11 2006, 09:05 PM, updated 20y ago

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Hello guy...
Help me decide which one better...for gaming and movie...will buy it tomorrow or 2 day from now...already googling but want to ask u guy...

p/s: now more to MX5021 cos popularity, jarang dengar klipsch speaker that why want to ask u guy...
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post Sep 11 2006, 09:52 PM

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Then go for Klipsch GMX 2.1 .Me getting one TOMORROW, rclxm9.gif . But dunno which sound card to get..Audio Prodigy 4 or AV 710 unsure.gif

Read on this forum that Klipsch GMX 2.1 and audio zs is a nice combination...
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post Sep 12 2006, 07:34 AM

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I'm also considering on this two models + Logitech Z2300, going to pair the speakers to creative SB Audigy 4. I'm more to music.
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post Sep 12 2006, 11:48 AM

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altec lansing mx5021
klipsch gmx a2.1
logitech z2300

it's already been a week still cant decide to choose which system rclxub.gif

klipsch gmx 2.1 got alot negative review about the annoying static sound when it's not active. So my choice left only the z2300 or mx5021,

i more into music and anime and i do need some bass sometimes blush.gif

hoping to get one tomorrow if able to decide today,

please advice,

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post Sep 12 2006, 12:03 PM

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hmm maybe i go for mx5021...r rm550 is ok price ?
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QUOTE(Godek @ Sep 12 2006, 12:03 PM)
hmm maybe i go for mx5021...r rm550 is ok price ?
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i think rm550 is ok but the lowest price i found is rm535 from MTEC,

anyway, have u listened to the mx5021 yet? i just feel that the sound produced is very "digital"

u didnt consider the z2300? I havent tried out the z2300 yet but there's alot ppl saying that it's lacking of midrange
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post Sep 12 2006, 06:13 PM

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hmm i go for mx5021 cos review i read it is a great speaker with budget around 500
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post Sep 12 2006, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(Godek @ Sep 12 2006, 06:13 PM)
hmm i go for mx5021 cos review i read it is a great speaker with budget around 500
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if u into music, u cant be wrong with mx5021
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post Sep 12 2006, 08:28 PM

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i am more to movie...but kekadang game
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post Sep 12 2006, 08:55 PM

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movie and game. i think GMX is better for u. mostly becoz of GMX's powerful sub.


so u from MMU Melaka, stygix just increase their price for GMX. last month they sell it for RM490 only.
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*looking at chocobee_2707's pic and wonders for a short moment*

those twin mid range drivers of the mx5021 sure look cool and are quite interesting. no one has ever talked about bass/mid integration before dry.gif

i dont think AL would be cheesy enough to have all 4 drivers produce the same frequency range [or perhaps they ARE that bad?? unsure.gif brows.gif]; it should be interesting to see how they perform!


edit:
looking at AL's page, i wonder if the horn tweeter has anything to do with the brightness that has been talked about?

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Er Silon dude, surely you don't mean you never knew what was behind the cloth covers of the MX5021 up till now?

Anyhow, I get what chidori means when he says it sounds "digital". It's so bright that you could say the sound it produces is very "fabricated" at times. Definitely nothing to associate with neutrality.
But dude chidori, believe me, the Z2300 does lack alot of things in the midrange, so don't get it unless you really really want loads of bass (that isn't even well defined to begin with).


OT: sad.gif If my Inspires don't sell, I'm gonna be stuck with them for awhile more.
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thanks for the advise evilnickwong, since i'm more into anime n music so i guess i'll just get the mx5021 instead.

just hoping the mx5021 will sound "softer" after burn-in.

cheers
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post Sep 13 2006, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(chidori @ Sep 12 2006, 11:48 AM)
altec lansing mx5021
klipsch gmx a2.1
logitech z2300

it's already been a week still cant decide to choose which system rclxub.gif

klipsch gmx 2.1 got alot negative review about the annoying static sound when it's not active. So my choice left only the z2300 or mx5021,
i just got my GMX this evening.yeah,there is some hissing sound,but not noticable.very minimum biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Silon @ Sep 12 2006, 09:03 PM)
*looking at chocobee_2707's pic and wonders for a short moment*

those twin mid range drivers of the mx5021 sure look cool and are quite interesting. no one has ever talked about bass/mid integration before dry.gif

i dont think AL would be cheesy enough to have all 4 drivers produce the same frequency range [or perhaps they ARE that bad?? unsure.gif brows.gif]; it should be interesting to see how they perform!
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looking at AL's page, i wonder if the horn tweeter has anything to do with the brightness that has been talked about?
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i dont think all 4 mid range drivers produce the same frequency range. the lower driver produce lower freq, and the higher produce higher freq. maybe only me feel that way sweat.gif, or resonance from the table. there also hissing problem for mx5021 when the speaker idle. just same problem as GMX.

I really like it(mx5021) sound for musics. i never try those high end speaker, just compare with my roomate GMX. but for movies or anything that need for bass, i prefer GMX.

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QUOTE(evilnickwong @ Sep 12 2006, 11:58 PM)
Er Silon dude, surely you don't mean you never knew what was behind the cloth covers of the MX5021 up till now?

Anyhow, I get what chidori means when he says it sounds "digital". It's so bright that you could say the sound it produces is very "fabricated" at times. Definitely nothing to associate with neutrality.
But dude chidori, believe me, the Z2300 does lack alot of things in the midrange, so don't get it unless you really really want loads of bass (that isn't even well defined to begin with).
OT: sad.gif If my Inspires don't sell, I'm gonna be stuck with them for awhile more.
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well, i knew for a fact that each sat has twin drivers [if thats what youre talking about; i had no idea of the horn loaded tweeter!] for a long time but they really struck me when i saw them in real life once: the sats were HUGE!
but somehow i never gave them much thought though tongue.gif

as for the brightness:
*the bells ring in silon's head* horn loaded tweeter! horn loaded tweeter!! laugh.gif laugh.gif

seriously, i really wonder if its all down to that damn tweeter?? unsure.gif

evilnickwong, there isnt anything that cant be sold in this world [well, except for really preposterous things of course laugh.gif]. i suppose its all a matter of 'how low are you willing to go' laugh.gif but too low and you might just be better off keeping it laugh.gif

QUOTE(chocobee_2707 @ Sep 13 2006, 02:09 AM)
i dont think all 4 mid range drivers produce the same frequency range. the lower driver produce lower freq, and the higher produce higher freq. maybe only me feel that way sweat.gif, or resonance from the table. there also hissing problem for mx5021 when the speaker idle. just same problem as GMX.

I really like it(mx5021) sound for musics. i never try those high end speaker, just compare with my roomate GMX. but for movies or anything that need for bass, i prefer GMX.

*sorry for bad english*
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perhaps you can try doing this?

driver1: [ear]

driver2:


then move your ear down to the 2nd driver and see if you could hear a difference laugh.gif

not having great english is not a crime bro, you have nothing to apologise for tongue.gif
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post Sep 13 2006, 08:26 AM

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Well if I can't sell it, my own rationale says I can't get new speakers. 'Sides, I just received two *cough*speeding*cough* letters a few days ago, so reluctant to buy without selling. laugh.gif

Do all horn loaded tweeters sound bright? But the GMX has horn loaded tweeters too doesn't it, I don't think I've heard anyone describe it as bright.
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post Sep 13 2006, 09:18 AM

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for me, GMX tweeter not bland well with the mid driver. feel like im listening to separate unit of mid and tweeter. even edifier s2.1d have better satt than GMX.
*from my judgement*

GMX may not describe as bright coz the bass already cover up its bright side.


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QUOTE(chocobee_2707 @ Sep 12 2006, 07:47 PM)
if u into music, u cant be wrong with mx5021
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Just asking, Is there a different between the original all black MX5021 and newer white MX5021 WHT model?
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QUOTE(chocobee_2707 @ Sep 13 2006, 09:18 AM)
for me, GMX tweeter not bland well with the mid driver. feel like im listening to separate unit of mid and tweeter. even edifier s2.1d have better satt than GMX.
*from my judgement*

GMX may not describe as bright coz the bass already cover up its bright side.
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Trust me man, no fking way the subwoofer can cover up the brightness. shakehead.gif

If it is not called bright then what is it called? smile.gif
Doesn't feel GMX sounds bright!? *looking at the avatar* using MX5021... whistling.gif

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post Sep 13 2006, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(EAC @ Sep 13 2006, 09:52 AM)
Trust me man, no fking way the subwoofer can cover up the brightness. shakehead.gif

If it is not called bright then what is it called? smile.gif
Doesn't feel GMX sounds bright!? *looking at the avatar* using MX5021... whistling.gif
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relax man. i have to admit mx5021 sound bright. but that doesnt mean gmx sound better. our setup are different so cannot compare both. and i only listen to mp3 and some flac, not those well recorded original cds.

im using mx5021 coz i like its sound. not meant that im the fan boy, since i tried both before i bought it. my point is i liked, i bought, and tell others about what i feel.

sorry for all GMX users or fans. i think both are good buy for their price. not much to expect for RM500 sweat.gif . i think GMX better for thread starter since he like movies and gaming thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(chocobee_2707 @ Sep 12 2006, 08:55 PM)
movie and game. i think GMX is better for u. mostly becoz of GMX's powerful sub.
so u from MMU Melaka, stygix just increase their price for GMX. last month they sell it for RM490 only.
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if you only want woofer, booomy, and muddy.. go for VS4121. the king of muddy.

else if you want a little bit more balance drive. go for mx5021.
no point getting GMX. imho. the GMX has everythings great. but except the low cost paper cone driver, potentiometer, and the super narrow sound stage,
it's excellent for blassing though. but i just don't quite like how it sound. just personal taste. =) it sound like a car audio to me.

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aiyo bad news...stigix do not have stok of mx5021...only left with gmx...
hmm which one i would get ?
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QUOTE(chocobee_2707 @ Sep 13 2006, 10:33 AM)
relax man. i have to admit mx5021 sound bright. but that doesnt mean gmx sound better. our setup are different so cannot compare both. and i only listen to mp3 and some flac, not those well recorded original cds.

im using mx5021 coz i like its sound. not meant that im the fan boy, since i tried both before i bought it. my point is i liked, i bought, and tell others about what i feel.

sorry for all GMX users or fans. i think both are good buy for their price. not much to expect for RM500 sweat.gif . i think GMX better for thread starter since he like movies and gaming thumbup.gif
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I had no offense actually. That's how I talk to my friend usually. Sorry man, next time I will watch my words. smile.gif

Godek,
Don't worry, you can get it from the other shop. cool.gif
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QUOTE(Godek @ Sep 13 2006, 11:55 AM)
aiyo bad news...stigix do not have stok of mx5021...only left with gmx...
hmm which one i would get ?
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Tryout the CS21 or the Megaworks 250D brows.gif

In my opinion, the CS21 sounds wayyy better than the MX5021. The MX5021 sounds awful even with a warmer X-Fi card.
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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Sep 13 2006, 12:50 PM)
Tryout the CS21 or the Megaworks 250D brows.gif

In my opinion, the CS21 sounds wayyy better than the MX5021. The MX5021 sounds awful even with a warmer X-Fi card.
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bro,can recommend me any newer warmer sound card for my GMX? budget around rm 200++
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QUOTE(evilnickwong @ Sep 13 2006, 08:26 AM)
Well if I can't sell it, my own rationale says I can't get new speakers. 'Sides, I just received two *cough*speeding*cough* letters a few days ago, so reluctant to buy without selling. laugh.gif

Do all horn loaded tweeters sound bright? But the GMX has horn loaded tweeters too doesn't it, I don't think I've heard anyone describe it as bright.
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LOL, it pays to drive slowly eh? brows.gif

i dont know, they didnt give me the impression of being warm/laid back/plesant the one time i listened to them. i suppose that is reason enough to call them bright? unsure.gif

QUOTE(saiga @ Sep 13 2006, 01:06 PM)
bro,can recommend me any newer warmer sound card for my GMX? budget around rm 200++
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the av710 is very very warm and extremely pleasant.
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hmm anyone now other shop beside stigix that sell altec lansing mx5021 in bukit beruang (mmu melaka)
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QUOTE(Silon @ Sep 13 2006, 02:39 PM)
the av710 is very very warm and extremely pleasant.
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Bro,i know from this forum that this AV71o is good,but the problem is hard to find.If want bulk still need to wait at least 1-2 month even after receive 10 orders.That's why i'm asking about NEWER sound card. doh.gif

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QUOTE(saiga @ Sep 13 2006, 03:10 PM)
Bro,i know from this forum that this AV71o is good,but the problem is hard to find.If want bulk still need to wait at least 1-2 month even after receive 10 orders.That's why i'm asking about NEWER sound card. doh.gif
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theres nothing wrong with the age of the item; newer things can still be worse. besides, there isnt anything at this price that can even come remotely close to how the av710 sounds.
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QUOTE(Silon @ Sep 13 2006, 03:24 PM)
theres nothing wrong with the age of the item; newer things can still be worse. besides, there isnt anything at this price that can even come remotely close to how the av710 sounds.
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I don't have problem with the age is just that I cannot wait that long. laugh.gif .I also know that nothing at the price (RM 100) can beat AV710,that's why I'm ready to spend RM 200++ for newer sound card that can match or perform better than AV710.
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already bought mx5021...sound great for me..... tongue.gif velly hepi lor

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good for you,as for me my ears and eyes prefered the GMX,that's why i get one biggrin.gif .No point getting a system that everyone praise but not u whistling.gif

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Tryout the CS21 or the Megaworks 250D brows.gif
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get aego m.. im enjoying every moment of it..
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aiyo,the price is off budget already doh.gif
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i think mx5021 juz great for me..aego m is way to off budget n i do not know any shop in melaka (espesically bukit beruang) that sell aego m
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save up a little more, go for aego. No regret biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Godek @ Sep 14 2006, 07:38 PM)
already bought mx5021...sound great for me..... tongue.gif velly hepi lor
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glad that you like it thumbup.gif

is there any bulk for mx5021? anyone interested?
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QUOTE(chidori @ Sep 15 2006, 04:04 PM)
is there any bulk for mx5021? anyone interested?
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=302489
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QUOTE(hiroshi @ Sep 15 2006, 04:25 PM)
but the price no cheaper than lowyat sad.gif
just hoping to get it cheaper
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QUOTE(Cahill @ Sep 15 2006, 02:14 PM)
save up a little more, go for aego. No regret  biggrin.gif
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if like that,better save a bit more and go for GMX 5.1 whistling.gif
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QUOTE(saiga @ Sep 15 2006, 06:19 PM)
if like that,better save a bit more and go for GMX 5.1  whistling.gif
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im not trying to start a flame war or anything, but dont be foolish. the GMX is no where near the aegoM in terms of objective performance smile.gif
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QUOTE(Silon @ Sep 15 2006, 06:31 PM)
im not trying to start a flame war or anything, but dont be foolish. the GMX is no where near the aegoM in terms of objective performance smile.gif
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Bro,please understand.i never said that GMX is better.What i mean is if you keep asking the person to top up more and more how can he get good speaker within his budget?

As example,this guy asking which one to choose AL MX5021 or Klipsch GMX 2.1.Both are around same price RM500.WHY DO YOU NEED to recommend something that is more expensive like Aego M?Because the sound quality?Then why don't you just recommend gigaworks etc.

Btw,I do't know why you hated Klipsch so much.Jealous perhaps? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(saiga @ Sep 15 2006, 07:27 PM)
Bro,please understand.i never said that GMX is better.What i mean is if you keep asking the person to top up more and more how can he get good speaker within his budget?

As example,this guy asking which one to choose AL MX5021 or Klipsch GMX 2.1.Both are around same price RM500.WHY DO YOU NEED to recommend something that is more expensive like Aego M?Because the sound quality?Then why don't you just recommend gigaworks etc.

Btw,I do't know why you hated Klipsch so much.Jealous perhaps? whistling.gif
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if that was your point then your post implied otherwise.

if you look closely, i wasnt the one who asked for him to top up for anything smile.gif

ahhh, YES YES YES im SOOOOO jealous over those klipschs. they SOOOOOOOOO good and because i cant afford them im VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY jealous. doh.gif
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Sorry to chip in from nowhere, if my $0.02 is of any worth to the original poster, I would get the AL MX5021 anyday over the GMX2.1.
If you were talking between the MX5021 vs original Klipsch ProMedia 2.1(not the GMX space-ship-like system), then I might sway towards the ProMedia 2.1 as there are enough reviews online to justify that too.....otherwise, if RM500 is the tops, buy the 5021....take care! smile.gif

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QUOTE(Silon @ Sep 15 2006, 07:32 PM)
if that was your point then your post implied otherwise.

if you look closely, i wasnt the one who asked for him to top up for anything smile.gif

ahhh, YES YES YES im SOOOOO jealous over those klipschs. they SOOOOOOOOO good and because i cant afford them im VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY jealous.  doh.gif
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if you look closely, i only said the GMX 5.1 name because OF THE PRICE.not the quality whistling.gif

i'm SO SAD that you are VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY jealous whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Omegaminx @ Sep 15 2006, 07:47 PM)
Sorry to chip in from nowhere, if my $0.02 is of any worth to the original poster, I would get the AL MX5021 anyday over the GMX2.1.
If you were talking between the MX5021 vs original Klipsch ProMedia 2.1(not the GMX space-ship-like system), then I might sway towards the ProMedia 2.1 as there are enough reviews online to justify that too.....otherwise, if RM500 is the tops, buy the 5021....take care! smile.gif
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Just want to know,your $0.02 is based on your PERSONNEL experience or just ONLINE REVIEWS? whistling.gif

I also found some "bad" reviews about the AL MX5021 and the GMX 2.1,but hey guys..let the person test the unit on his own.NO NEED to give advice if you never tested it.
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QUOTE(Omegaminx @ Sep 15 2006, 07:47 PM)
Sorry to chip in from nowhere, if my $0.02 is of any worth to the original poster, I would get the AL MX5021 anyday over the GMX2.1.
If you were talking between the MX5021 vs original Klipsch ProMedia 2.1(not the GMX space-ship-like system), then I might sway towards the ProMedia 2.1 as there are enough reviews online to justify that too.....otherwise, if RM500 is the tops, buy the 5021....take care! smile.gif
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did you listen to the mx5021 before? im curious: how did you find them to be? *brows.gif perhaps you can even compare them to the aegoM and elaborate on the differences? brows.gif*

ive never had the chance to listen to them before sad.gif


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oh and btw, i think i should apologise for inadvertently causing the heaty reply to your post sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Silon @ Sep 15 2006, 08:54 PM)


ive never had the chance to listen to them before sad.gif
Never hear the actual sound but say this and that. doh.gif


I wonder HOW MANY PEOPLE in this forum like this ? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(saiga @ Sep 16 2006, 12:06 AM)
Never hear the actual sound but say this and that.  doh.gif
I wonder HOW MANY PEOPLE in this forum like this ? whistling.gif
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He's never heard the MX5021
But he commented on the Aego and GMX

Never read properly but reply this and that. doh.gif
I wonder HOW MANY PEOPLE in this forum like that ? whistling.gif

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I know how to read la.That's why funny,people talking about MX5021 vs GMX 2.1
NOT AEGO M vs GMX 2.1 doh.gif

I just put the GMX 5.1(more expensive) because somebody just put up AEGO M name and SUDDENLY this guy comment about GMX 5.1 performance against AEGO M! I NEVER said the GMX 5.1 against AEGO M.

What the hell man! vmad.gif


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Did you state that you are talking about the price of GMX 5.1 instead of the performance clearly ?
Did you see how silon was trying not to start a "flame war" by saying "im not trying to start a flame war or anything..." the only comment?
Is the topic of this thread "MX 5021 VS GMX 2.1"?
Are you the thread starter?
Are you a kid or a mature "man"?


*cough*was trying not to post this in this thread for a few times already, but really can't stand this guy*cough*
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QUOTE(saiga @ Sep 16 2006, 03:08 AM)
I know how to read la.That's why funny,people talking about MX5021 vs GMX 2.1
NOT AEGO M vs GMX 2.1  doh.gif

I just put the GMX 5.1(more expensive) because somebody just put up AEGO M name and SUDDENLY this guy comment about GMX 5.1 performance against AEGO M! I NEVER said the GMX 5.1 against AEGO M.

What the hell man! vmad.gif
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Then why was your comment "Never hear the actual sound" instead of "Dont talk about unrelated items?" whistling.gif
Come on, dont be a sore loser

The fella said "Go for Aego", u quoted that and replied "Go for GMX 5.1 better"
Now how is that not saying that the GMX is better than the Aego?
Perhaps a few classes in logic might help
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QUOTE(EAC @ Sep 16 2006, 09:55 AM)
Did you state that you are talking about the price of GMX 5.1 instead of the performance clearly ?
Did you see how silon was trying not to start a "flame war" by saying "im not trying to start a flame war or anything..." the only comment?
Is the topic of this thread "MX 5021 VS GMX 2.1"?
Are you the thread starter?
Are you a kid or a mature "man"?
*cough*was trying not to post this in this thread for a few times already, but really can't stand this guy*cough*
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PLEASE see my post (#44) doh.gif



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QUOTE(KilJim @ Sep 16 2006, 11:14 AM)
Then why was your comment "Never hear the actual sound" instead of "Dont talk about unrelated items?" whistling.gif
Come on, dont be a sore loser

The fella said "Go for Aego", u quoted that and replied "Go for GMX 5.1 better"
Now how is that not saying that the GMX is better than the Aego?
Perhaps a few classes in logic might help
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PLEASE read my post (#44)

I ALREADY MENTION that i mean the PRICE not quality! CANNOT READ ? doh.gif
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QUOTE(saiga @ Sep 16 2006, 11:34 AM)
PLEASE read my post (#44)

I ALREADY MENTION that i mean the PRICE not quality! CANNOT READ ? doh.gif
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Ah,but if you read properly,KilJim was referin to ur post #42

QUOTE(KilJim @ Sep 16 2006, 11:14 AM)
The fella said "Go for Aego", u quoted that and replied "Go for GMX 5.1 better"
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QUOTE(Omegaminx @ Sep 15 2006, 07:47 PM)
Sorry to chip in from nowhere, if my $0.02 is of any worth to the original poster, I would get the AL MX5021 anyday over the GMX2.1.
If you were talking between the MX5021 vs original Klipsch ProMedia 2.1(not the GMX space-ship-like system), then I might sway towards the ProMedia 2.1 as there are enough reviews online to justify that too.....otherwise, if RM500 is the tops, buy the 5021....take care! smile.gif
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QUOTE(saiga @ Sep 16 2006, 11:34 AM)
PLEASE read my post (#44)

I ALREADY MENTION that i mean the PRICE not quality! CANNOT READ ?  doh.gif
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OMG, what's going on here lol biggrin.gif!

Short version:

Compared MX5021 and GMX 2.1. GMX 2.1 > MX5021. Got GMX 2.1. Got Aego M. Aego M > GMX 2.1 for music. Using GMX 2.1 more for all round performance. The End. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(The Scourge @ Sep 16 2006, 03:46 PM)
OMG, what's going on here lol biggrin.gif!

Short version:

Compared MX5021 and GMX 2.1. GMX 2.1 > MX5021. Got GMX 2.1. Got Aego M. Aego M > GMX 2.1 for music. Using GMX 2.1 more for all round performance. The End. biggrin.gif
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Read all my previous posts on the topic in other threads then biggrin.gif. 'Nuff said.
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QUOTE(The Scourge @ Sep 16 2006, 03:46 PM)
OMG, what's going on here lol biggrin.gif!

Short version:

Compared MX5021 and GMX 2.1. GMX 2.1 > MX5021. Got GMX 2.1. Got Aego M. Aego M > GMX 2.1 for music. Using GMX 2.1 more for all round performance. The End. biggrin.gif
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Bro,nice indeed thumbup.gif . At least have one more person saying GMX 2.1 better than MX5021.Anyway,i think this is personal opinion so nobody need to get angry.If you think MX5021 better,than get one.Don't buy the GMX.

Although the GMX don't have wireless remote, i can use my hp to as "remote" for application such as winamp,media player and etc. biggrin.gif



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QUOTE(The Scourge @ Sep 16 2006, 06:25 PM)
Read all my previous posts on the topic in other threads then biggrin.gif. 'Nuff said.
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a quick search of your previous posts revealed a recent [and lenghty] post on the gmx, the mx5021 and the aegoM
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the one comparison againts the mx5021 i did read was personal preference on 'overall sound signature' which of course is a subjective thing and your preference would most probably vary greatly to the next guy.

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QUOTE(Silon @ Sep 16 2006, 09:05 PM)
a quick search of your previous posts revealed a recent [and lenghty] post on the gmx, the mx5021 and the aegoM
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the one comparison againts the mx5021 i did read was personal preference on 'overall sound signature' which of course is a subjective thing and your preference would most probably vary greatly to the next guy.

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Beside that, I really don't know how you "adjust" the settings to gain back the totally missing midrange?
If there is such a settings, please tell us here, I would like to help my friend who curretly own a Klipsch GMX 2.1 and Philips PCS805 to gain back THE TOTALLY MISSING MIDRANGE. rclxms.gif

*Just realize that you were using Prodigy 7.1 LT. Never mind, I can get a Prodigy for him to test out "the settings", just tell us what "the settings" are, thanks. smile.gif

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Be a man, do the right thing. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(EAC @ Sep 16 2006, 09:19 PM)
Beside that, I really don't know how you "adjust" the settings to gain back the totally missing midrange?
If there is such a settings, please tell us here, I would like to help my friend who curretly own a Klipsch GMX 2.1 and Philips PCS805 to gain back THE TOTALLY MISSING MIDRANGE. rclxms.gif

*Just realize that you were using Prodigy 7.1 LT. Never mind, I can get a Prodigy for him to test out "the settings", just tell us what "the settings" are, thanks. smile.gif

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good,can help me "tune" my GMX also biggrin.gif

EAC,i'm a man.or do you want some prove? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(saiga @ Sep 15 2006, 08:18 PM)
Just want to know,your $0.02 is based on your PERSONNEL experience or just ONLINE REVIEWS?  whistling.gif

I also found some "bad" reviews about the AL MX5021 and the GMX 2.1,but hey guys..let the person test the unit on his own.NO NEED to give advice if you never tested it.
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Opinion is based on personal audition done at Sri Comp(they have a nice rig setup for all these PC multimedia speakers....go try on a weekday where nobody is around yet...don't go on Sun/Sat, too noisy for proper evaluation). Also heard them at ALL IT, just ask the sales guy to demo both for you and audition on a weekday lunch/morning if possible. Other places also heard them but separately, not A-B style. However, if u like more bassy tracks by far, maybe you should spring for the GMX2.1.

BTW, i don't own either sets. My PC rig consists of Klipsch ProMedia 2.1, Aego M, Midiland S2-4100, FPS2000, AL ACS48, AL ACS45.1, VAL M20 MKIII(tube).....and just a few others like some ATC/Epos/Ls35a/Quad monitors and the like. Best advice, go listen like what everyone is telling you, once u hear both, there won't be any doubts as to your decision anymore regardless what anyone says, be they audiogurus or just budding enthusiasts. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Omegaminx @ Sep 16 2006, 10:51 PM)
Opinion is based on personal audition done at Sri Comp(they have a nice rig setup for all these PC multimedia speakers....go try on a weekday where nobody is around yet...don't go on Sun/Sat, too noisy for proper evaluation). Also heard them at ALL IT, just ask the sales guy to demo both for you and audition on a weekday lunch/morning if possible. Other places also heard them but separately, not A-B style. However, if u like more bassy tracks by far, maybe you should spring for the GMX2.1.

BTW, i don't own either sets. My PC rig consists of Klipsch ProMedia 2.1, Aego M, Midiland S2-4100, FPS2000, AL ACS48, AL ACS45.1, VAL M20 MKIII(tube).....and just a few others like some ATC/Epos/Ls35a/Quad monitors and the like. Best advice, go listen like what everyone is telling you, once u hear both, there won't be any doubts as to your decision anymore regardless what anyone says, be they audiogurus or just budding enthusiasts.  whistling.gif

Take care!
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no need to go test,i already got myself gmx 2.1 coz i prefer a bit more bass. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(saiga @ Sep 16 2006, 11:10 PM)
no need to go test,i already got myself gmx 2.1 coz i prefer a bit more bass.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Omegaminx @ Sep 16 2006, 10:51 PM)
Opinion is based on personal audition done at Sri Comp(they have a nice rig setup for all these PC multimedia speakers....go try on a weekday where nobody is around yet...don't go on Sun/Sat, too noisy for proper evaluation). Also heard them at ALL IT, just ask the sales guy to demo both for you and audition on a weekday lunch/morning if possible. Other places also heard them but separately, not A-B style. However, if u like more bassy tracks by far, maybe you should spring for the GMX2.1.

BTW, i don't own either sets. My PC rig consists of Klipsch ProMedia 2.1, Aego M, Midiland S2-4100, FPS2000, AL ACS48, AL ACS45.1, VAL M20 MKIII(tube).....and just a few others like some ATC/Epos/Ls35a/Quad monitors and the like. Best advice, go listen like what everyone is telling you, once u hear both, there won't be any doubts as to your decision anymore regardless what anyone says, be they audiogurus or just budding enthusiasts.  whistling.gif

Take care!
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Wow crap, you've got all those plugged into your pc?
Pretty amazing list there man shocking.gif
Btw, always wondered, how's the VAL?

OT : Agrh...must control myself from flaming....

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Wow crap, you've got all those plugged into your pc?
Pretty amazing list there man  shocking.gif
Btw, always wondered, how's the VAL?

OT : Agrh...must control myself from flaming....
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The VAL is nice with a warm & lush sound sig, bass is surprisingly punchy(I think no need sub for small room although VAL does sell a matching sub to accompany this line), I replaced the stock tubes with some EH(didn't try JJ). Got them from yuckfou > 1 yr ago in almost new form, they look very polished and built is reasonably good cf to some standard hifi monitors. I like the sound and btw, they come originally without grilles...(memang no grilles in original form and box).....I don't have all those gear plugged into 1 PC LoL (I am still a sane audiophile), some are relinquished to my younger sis, and some older ones in bedroom as multimedia, some in box, some unopened(Edifier RT1900 MKII rosewood not the MKIII black one). I am currently looking at the Swans M200 or the T200B(new with remote) but wondering any reasonable dealer in Singapore/KL?

Cheers tongue.gif

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how is the condition now?
miss it alot.
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how is the condition now?
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haha... a proud klipsch user here... i started one similar thread last year.... but i didnt compare the gmx with the al mx5021... i compared it with edifier s2.1 and i know edifier is more to music... i own the cheap edifier 102... sweet sound and bass... for just rm65... plus i think my speaker already burn-in... so u may imagine how is the sound now thumbup.gif .... as for my klipsch... i love it.... the bass is powerful but not sloppy... no offense to altec lansing users... but i still prefer klispch, edifier more than altec lansing.... plus they are more established company even in high-end home teather systems.... correct me if im wrong...

and u may consider the aego2 series...
dunno whether they still sell it now or not... try ur luck....

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QUOTE(CGLegacy @ Sep 18 2006, 12:35 PM)
haha... a proud klipsch user here... i started one similar thread last year.... but i didnt compare the gmx with the al mx5021... i compared it with edifier s2.1 and i know edifier is more to music... i own the cheap edifier 102... sweet sound and bass... for just rm65... plus i think my speaker already burn-in... so u may imagine how is the sound now thumbup.gif .... as for my klipsch... i love it.... the bass is powerful but not sloppy... no offense to altec lansing users... but i still prefer klispch, edifier more than altec lansing.... plus they are more established company even in high-end home teather systems.... correct me if im wrong...

and u may consider the aego2 series...
dunno whether they still sell it now or not... try ur luck....
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in USA, midland has their own car team to carry speaker. but altec lansing around 10 plus years ago has their own plane team to carry and deliver their speaker. no doubt., they did successfull once last time.

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well, im sure many of us would love to swim endlessly in nostalgia but fast forward to today and their 'heritage' isnt doing them much, is it? laugh.gif
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well as their main designer left altec lansing they produce crap mainly. i didn't deny it.
what is my point is. klipsch is famous for their speaker long time ago. so do altec lansing.
and klipsch now also producing somethings good for cinema speaker.but undenyable somethings bad. so as altec lansing. i stay neutral in this case not offending or protecting any brand. =)
just to share somethings i had read, or nostalgia you call.
i am pretty sure there's bunch of people hate Mx5021. and also another bunch of people hate klipsch GMX. and some even call call it as a joke.
as a so call big and famous company produce somethings with imbalance sound at low volume... what you call it?
=) i myself feel pretty annoying for that. they can add another couple bucks, to buy a better pot. they just don't wanna do it.

anyway. threadstarter had got himself a GMX.


by the way. i compared mx5021 with AEGO M .
MX5021 in shop(The mines, E-Lite Computer Shop) VS AEGO M in my room.
source. creative ZEN Micro.
mp3 rip from CD 320 KbPS.
cable = 9" canare L-4E6S with normal gold plug.

over impression.... (ps test is not conduct A/B)
altec lansing overall quite ok. treble is nice. not too sharp in my ear. bass is tight.
but sound stage is much more narrow than the AEGO.
and i found the lower mid of altec is some how stronger compare to AEGO M.
BASS. AEGO M bass is shaking. and relatively DEEP compare to altec lansing. altec lansing produce a lot of hard bass. which i guess the resonance point for the woofer box is tune at around 60-70 hz.

while aego M in room. is kinda deep...
as i said. it's in room. sure much deeper.
besides the environment factor. i guess
AEGO M is much more woth to take. i feel the performance is much more better.


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PcWork, i dont hate AL or klipsch, but i must say im not too convinced of them either. so dont take this or what ive said/gonna say the wrong way laugh.gif


as with the bright cables that AE supplies with the aegoM, i cant help but wonder what kind of a company could do something like this?

[in this paragraph im talking about other companies as a whole]
design a top notch speaker to conquer its intended market and at the same time ruin the product with crappy components? i dont care what the reason is. it just shows what kind of a company it is.

i know, i know, they need to sell more in order to make more, but there has got to be a minimum level on how low companies will suck down to in order to sell.

as for AE and the AM in particular, the image of AE that will always remain in my mind is of a company that is willing to sell the aegoM in its current form [with the crappy cables] and market the AM as a hifi speaker. needless to say, i wont be looking at AE with high regard when i move to bookshelfs in the future. [the fact that admist all the *$^!% hype and reviews no one (except one or two people here tongue.gif) was able to clearly state how it sounds just adds bitterness to my experience dry.gif]



and thanks alot for your opinion on the AM vs mx5021 thumbup.gif

i do have a few questions though:

1. you mentioned the Zen micro and 320kbps MP3. so i assume you ripped from a CD at 320kbps and then uploaded the files to the zen micro and played on both speakers?

2.'not too sharp'. so it is sharp, but not too sharp? unsure.gif

3. mid range is stronger than the aegom: do you mean you hear EVEN more vocals and the mid range??

4.'hard bass'. can you please explain a bit on this? sweat.gif


how was the environment btw? any nasty tiles or lots of reflective walls?

once again, thanks for the descriptions biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Silon @ Sep 18 2006, 08:00 PM)
and thanks alot for your opinion on the AM vs mx5021 thumbup.gif

i do have a few questions though:

1. you mentioned the Zen micro and 320kbps MP3. so i assume you ripped from a CD at 320kbps and then uploaded the files to the zen micro and played on both speakers?


2.'not too sharp'. so it is sharp, but not too sharp? unsure.gif


3. mid range is stronger than the aegom: do you mean you hear EVEN more vocals and the mid range??



4.'hard bass'. can you please explain a bit on this? sweat.gif
how was the environment btw? any nasty tiles or lots of reflective walls?


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1. yes. both play from my zen player. same album same song.
Josh Groban First Album - Josh Groban ,
Track 3. You're Still You

Josh Groban 2nd Album -
Track 5 . When You Say You Love Me.
This two track i listen a few time.
got other song. those blassing bass one...

2. well.. it's like it is clear. but some times, when the song "memang" have a lot of treble there. mx5021 tend to "poke" my ear a bit... sort of unconfortable with the level of treble. but with proper positioning. that can be slove.

3. lower mid. where those male singer with low vocal, will sound actually thicker in mx5021. but IMHO quite muffle compare to AM.

4. those bass like "bam bam bam"... higher HZ ,, or i should call it mid bass.. =P
aego is like "Doooom"
my room has reflective wall, very small. but some minor treatment done, like stick some sponge. use tennis ball as a stand for my woofer... eg.
the MX5021 is placed on rack, at open space. with carpet.
their rack has many layer. so i put the satelite on the rack which is same level as my ear. distance is 1.5M. and woofer on floor, side to wall.
that's best i can do. else the shop ppl will kill me for messing around with their speaker.


ps: all the sound comparison is some how based on my impression. after i heard MX. i go home straight away to listen to AEGO..
PS: silon. perhaps the reason u and i have different opinion with AM is because i changed the stock cable to Canare L-4E6S the first day i got it. not sure L-4E6S is better or not. but my fren, anand__2 which also using canare cable for his AEGO M claim that there's a different.
as for myself. i didnt really try to listen to the stock cable. but in my impression i though it is some how quite similar to canare.

conclusion : sound of mx5021 is particular very ok for a computer speaker. perhaps. IMHO it's much better than GMX. watching movie (FF;advent children, Demo) is so nice. and i guess that's why it has a THX over it. everythings well controled. sound stage is some how narrow compare to AM. it's like firing the song direct to your ear. no atmosphere. and close your eye. you can point where the sat is... and this problems comes with every multimedia speaker i ever heard. including GMX (super narrow sound stage)
but for multimedia speaker Mx5021 has the best sound stage i ever heard.
AM. while comparing it to MX, i can feel that AM is slightly "not so aggresive" sound compare to mx. so meaning it can play song loud, yet you can relax. but when comes to movie, i think people prefer mx5021 which can blass until the floor is shaking... (trust me AM in my room shake my floor too, with bass =1 )

if my MAX budget is RM 550, i will definately take MX5021. =) well. i said "I" prefef how mx sound. no offend to GMX lovers.


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QUOTE(PcWork @ Sep 18 2006, 08:44 PM)
1. yes. both play from my zen player. same album same song.
Josh Groban First Album - Josh Groban ,
Track 3. You're Still You

Josh Groban 2nd Album -
Track 5 . When You Say You Love Me.
This two track i listen a few time.
got other song. those blassing bass one...

2. well.. it's like it is clear. but some times, when the song "memang" have a lot of treble there. mx5021 tend to "poke" my ear a bit... sort of unconfortable with the level of treble. but with proper positioning. that can be slove.

3. lower mid. where those male singer with low vocal, will sound actually thicker in mx5021. but IMHO quite muffle compare to AM.

4. those bass like "bam bam bam"... higher HZ ,, or i should call it mid bass.. =P
aego is like "Doooom"
my room has reflective wall, very small. but some minor treatment done, like stick some sponge. use tennis ball as a stand for my woofer... eg.
the MX5021 is placed on rack, at open space. with carpet.
their rack has many layer. so i put the satelite on the rack which is same level as my ear. distance is 1.5M. and woofer on floor, side to wall.
that's best i can do. else the shop ppl will kill me for messing around with their speaker.
ps: all the sound comparison is some how based on my impression. after i heard MX. i go home straight away to listen to AEGO..
PS: silon. perhaps the reason u and i have different opinion with AM is because i changed the stock cable to Canare L-4E6S the first day i got it. not sure L-4E6S is better or not. but my fren, anand__2 which also using canare cable for his AEGO M claim that there's a different.
as for myself. i didnt really try to listen to the stock cable. but in my impression i though it is some how quite similar to canare.

conclusion : sound of mx5021 is particular very ok for a computer speaker. perhaps. IMHO it's much better than GMX.  watching movie (FF;advent children, Demo) is so nice.  and i guess that's why it has a THX over it. everythings well controled. sound stage is some how narrow compare to AM. it's like firing the song direct to your ear. no atmosphere. and close your eye. you can point where the sat is... and this problems comes with every multimedia speaker i ever heard. including GMX (super narrow sound stage)
but for multimedia speaker Mx5021 has the best sound stage i ever heard.
AM. while comparing it to MX, i can feel that AM is slightly "not so aggresive" sound compare to mx. so meaning it can play song loud, yet you can relax. but when comes to movie, i think people prefer mx5021 which can blass until the floor is shaking... (trust me AM in my room shake my floor too, with bass =1 )

if my MAX budget is RM 550, i will definately take MX5021. =) well. i said "I" prefef how mx sound. no offend to GMX lovers.
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great! i forgot to ask about speaker placement somewhere along the way but it seems you sorted it out thumbup.gif

once again, thanks for the detailed descriptions. i woudnt have settled for anything less biggrin.gif biggrin.gif whistling.gif tongue.gif thumbup.gif

no.2 and "it's like firing the song direct to your ear. no atmosphere. and close your eye. you can point where the sat is... " is enough to say its bright. super no-no for me laugh.gif
btw, did you notice the AM's mid range emphasis on the mx5021?

no.3: got what you mean. im assuming they werent many additional factors manipulating the overall sound by a large margin and from your descriptions, it sounds as though the mx5021 has been tweaked all over the frequency response spectrum to 'enchance' its sound unsure.gif

no4 has something to do with the speakers emphasis on the mid bass/upper bass/lower mids and is quite the same as no3, right?




as for the difference in sound before and after the cables, well, im more interested to know how it is different laugh.gif


excellent post. its thoroughly informative thumbup.gif


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great! i forgot to ask about speaker placement somewhere along the way but it seems you sorted it out thumbup.gif

once again, thanks for the detailed descriptions. i woudnt have settled for anything less biggrin.gif biggrin.gif whistling.gif tongue.gif thumbup.gif

no.2 and "it's like firing the song direct to your ear. no atmosphere. and close your eye. you can point where the sat is... " is enough to say its bright. super no-no for me laugh.gif
btw, did you notice the AM's mid range emphasis on the mx5021?

no.3: got what you mean. im assuming they werent many additional factors manipulating the overall sound by a large margin and from your descriptions, it sounds as though the mx5021 has been tweaked all over the frequency response spectrum to 'enchance' its sound unsure.gif

no4 has something to do with the speakers emphasis on the mid bass/upper bass/lower mids and is quite the same as no3, right?
as for the difference in sound before and after the cables, well, im more interested to know how it is different laugh.gif
excellent post. its thoroughly informative thumbup.gif
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i feel MX5021 some how emphasis on lower mid. it's like the satelite and woofer both playing the lowermid... making it very very thick.. and some how quite muffle.. as the woofer is mono, and the midrange is "terkacau" AM also have sort of problems. but not as serious as mx. if i choose a describ to sound of MX. it will be like going through slight V shaped EQ.where the lowest point is upper mid.

sound before/ after recable of AM. will need to check back, hear it for longer periods then i update with you. this few days kinda busy for exam + assignment.

a female singer voice is some how not as smooth as AM especially when the singer sing louder... it's like got "spike" along the spectrum , and not smooth.

i say this is kinda mx is a bad speaker, infact, it still quite impressive. at least i give it higest ranking among all computer speaker i ever heard. it is bad when compare to AM , according to my song, my taste, under the specific testing environment. =)


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Wonder why you bought 2 Edifier MP220, PcWork. unsure.gif

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Sep 18 2006, 09:20 PM)
i feel MX5021 some how emphasis on lower mid. it's like the satelite and woofer both playing the lowermid... making it very very thick.. and some how quite muffle.. as the woofer is mono, and the midrange is "terkacau" AM also have sort of problems. but not as serious as mx. if i choose a describ to sound of MX. it will be like going through slight V shaped EQ.where the lowest point is upper mid.

sound before/ after recable of AM. will need to check back, hear it for longer periods then i update with you. this few days kinda busy for exam + assignment.

a female singer voice is some how not as smooth as AM especially when the singer sing louder... it's like got "spike" along the spectrum , and not smooth.

i say this is kinda mx is a bad speaker, infact, it still quite impressive. at least i give it higest ranking among all computer speaker i ever heard. it is bad when compare to AM , according to my song, my taste, under the specific testing environment. =)
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well, i suppose in a way, its only natural. i mean, how many multimedia speakers out there ship with the *right* amounts of bass? even the aegoM has slightly elevated bass levels. the bass bloat is bound to get in the way of the midrange right laugh.gif

btw did you notice anything different [or anything at all, lol] with the twin drivers in the sats? was there any difference in terms of the sensation and overall feel of music?


OH, youre gonna do the with/without cable change comparison yourself? GREAT! thanks alot! thumbup.gif
oh and btw, if i wanted them, how much do they cost and most importantly of all, where do i get them?


hmmmm ive had the aegoM+0404+celine dion shoutings before and i can assure you, theyre werent fun AT ALL shakehead.gif

i still wonder whether this is caused by the horn loaded tweeter on the mx5021? i did a short [perhaps too short] read on horn loaded drivers a few days ago and apparently the problem is down to the horn resonating and colouring the sound. im thinking it resonates and colours the higher frequencies unsure.gif


i think its best if we agree to disagree on the hifi/computer speaker part whistling.gif laugh.gif



edited ugly spelling errors laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Omegaminx @ Sep 17 2006, 04:02 PM)
Hi KJ,

The VAL is nice with a warm & lush sound sig, bass is surprisingly punchy(I think no need sub for small room although VAL does sell a matching sub to accompany this line), I replaced the stock tubes with some EH(didn't try JJ). Got them from yuckfou > 1 yr ago in almost new form, they look very polished and built is reasonably good cf to some standard hifi monitors. I like the sound and btw, they come originally without grilles...(memang no grilles in original form and box).....I don't have all those gear plugged into 1 PC LoL (I am still a sane audiophile), some are relinquished to my younger sis, and some older ones in bedroom as multimedia, some in box, some unopened(Edifier RT1900 MKII rosewood not the MKIII black one). I am currently looking at the Swans M200 or the T200B(new with remote) but wondering any reasonable dealer in Singapore/KL?

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LoL, and i was wondering how your setup would look like with all those laugh.gif
I'm a n00b about speakers, so i cant really help u there

Ah damn, those are the ones i was supposed to buy from the original seller
He ended up selling to yuckfou instead, IIRC

Oh no grills are cool biggrin.gif
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hehe thank guy cos made my thread happening with information and comparison from audiophile...btw, i already bought mx5021 not gmx...cos for my ear..mx5021 sound good for me...and my target is to get mx5021 not gmx hehe...

p/s : your post can help other people beside me to choose mx5021 or gmx cos there price is not much diff...
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QUOTE(Silon @ Sep 18 2006, 10:41 PM)
well, i suppose in a way, its only natural. i mean, how many multimedia speakers out there ship with the *right* amounts of bass? even the aegoM has slightly elevated bass levels. the bass bloat is bound to get in the way of the midrange right laugh.gif

btw did you notice anything different [or anything at all, lol] with the twin drivers in the sats? was there any difference in terms of the sensation and overall feel of music?
OH, youre gonna do the with/without cable change comparison yourself? GREAT! thanks alot! thumbup.gif
oh and btw, if i wanted them, how much do they cost and most importantly of all, where do i get them?
hmmmm ive had the aegoM+0404+celine dion shoutings before and i can assure you, theyre werent fun AT ALL shakehead.gif

i still wonder whether this is caused by the horn loaded tweeter on the mx5021? i did a short [perhaps too short] read on horn loaded drivers a few days ago and apparently the problem is down to the horn resonating and colouring the sound. im thinking it resonates and colours the higher frequencies unsure.gif
i think its best if we agree to disagree on the hifi/computer speaker part whistling.gif laugh.gif
edited ugly spelling errors laugh.gif
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silon. now in rush. will read ur post back and reply soon. perhaps tomorrow

QUOTE(Godek @ Sep 19 2006, 12:44 AM)
hehe thank guy cos made my thread happening with information and comparison from audiophile...btw, i already bought mx5021 not gmx...cos for my ear..mx5021 sound good for me...and my target is to get mx5021 not gmx hehe...

p/s : your post can help other people beside me to choose mx5021 or gmx cos there price is not much diff...
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good choise... IMHO MX5021 is pretty decent.

silon about twin drive part. it make the mid range spread wider... and some placed need power, like suddent loud, it handel pretty well.....
will think back and tell u what's different.

about why i got 2 X mp220. i have to admit i some how enjoy it's mid range. when i doing soldering cable /study, i will use it to play some vocal heavy song, classical, musical . and i quite enjoy it.
and i buy another set to keep. =)
and i am a note book user. so i get portable speaker. As simple as that =)

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hmm... i think there are some cases where... you bought a speaker... listen for it a few times and then u love it.... but later... u feel the other way....
and there are also cases where u hate the sound when u first heard it.... or just not satisfying enough.... but then later u will feel that ur ears love that same produced sound of the same speaker.... weird huh??? some people notice it while their speakers go through the "burn-in" process... others may only felt the psychology change in them.... so it is still up to them... their ears and their mind... how they want to receive the new sound... and get used to it....
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newbie question here, what is the difference if a speaker is thx certified or not? in this case the klipsch is not while the al is. how does these two speakers compare to al cs21?
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QUOTE(Silon @ Sep 18 2006, 10:41 PM)
well, i suppose in a way, its only natural. i mean, how many multimedia speakers out there ship with the *right* amounts of bass? even the aegoM has slightly elevated bass levels. the bass bloat is bound to get in the way of the midrange right laugh.gif

btw did you notice anything different [or anything at all, lol] with the twin drivers in the sats? was there any difference in terms of the sensation and overall feel of music?
OH, youre gonna do the with/without cable change comparison yourself? GREAT! thanks alot!  thumbup.gif
oh and btw, if i wanted them, how much do they cost and most importantly of all, where do i get them?
hmmmm ive had the aegoM+0404+celine dion shoutings before and i can assure you, theyre werent fun AT ALL  shakehead.gif

i still wonder whether this is caused by the horn loaded tweeter on the mx5021? i did a short [perhaps too short] read on horn loaded drivers a few days ago and apparently the problem is down to the horn resonating and colouring the sound. im thinking it resonates and colours the higher frequencies  unsure.gif
i think its best if we agree to disagree on the hifi/computer speaker part whistling.gif laugh.gif
edited ugly spelling errors  laugh.gif
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by the way. i think... with the treble and bass level set to neutral at MX5021. the horn isn't colouring the sound quite much. and IMHO, as bright as ATP3. but slightly over power... very slightly. if can custom replace the caps inside the tweeter to tame it down. should be perfect. some how i quite like the twin drive mid range. it provide power compare to singel drive. where it can pump out some sound all in suddent... and can feel the power. especially when plucking the guitar string, it can feel how hard the people plug it. ( of course, AM also can hear =P)
and it's less distortion compare to singel drive. (1 drive lawan 2 drive, sure 2 drive win) some more. when compare to bigger driver speaker. the 2 X 3 " did provide more detail sound, i believe smaller drive can move faster in this case.
so twin drive i assume it can provide some detail than single bigger drive, and also provide louder sound than singel drive which is same size.


QUOTE(CGLegacy @ Sep 21 2006, 04:51 PM)
hmm... i think there are some cases where... you bought a speaker... listen for it a few times and then u love it.... but later... u feel the other way....
and there are also cases where u hate the sound when u first heard it.... or just not satisfying enough.... but then later u will feel that ur ears love that same produced sound of the same speaker.... weird huh??? some people notice it while their speakers go through the "burn-in" process... others may only felt the psychology change in them.... so it is still up to them... their ears and their mind... how they want to receive the new sound... and get used to it....
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but most of the time, if the person really used to the song, and love how the song sound like on his own systems. when he test it out on different speaker, he can immediately tells the different, as he always listen to the same song, and got strong memory about the song. and how it should sound like... in my case. if i don't like the speaker from first listening, i won't change much. i already make my self try to accept GMX and some model of edifier before i buy AM. (to save some money). but after all. i rather use back my old model altec lansing ACS295. or else i buy those i really like. i can't force my self, or persuate myself to love some sound. as least i can't accept GMX for almost 2 years arleady. tried time to time once i have chances, either in shop, or my fren unit.


QUOTE(techdroid @ Sep 23 2006, 03:30 PM)
newbie question here, what is the difference if a speaker is thx certified or not? in this case the klipsch is not while the al is. how does these two speakers compare to al cs21?
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THX is certified by lucas film that the speaker are capable to produce some effect accroding to what they want when they record the sound signal. do some search on google or wikipedia. there's a lot regarding this, and very detail explaination.
PS : BOTH MX5021 and GMXa 2.1 are THX certified.
and THX isn't everythings about good sound. =) there's tons of non thx certified speaker might sound better than those with THX.

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i see, thanks.
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izzit a waste to buy good speaker without good soundcard?? i'm using laptop and dunno wat is the brand of the sound card....
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QUOTE(CGLegacy @ Sep 21 2006, 04:51 PM)
hmm... i think there are some cases where... you bought a speaker... listen for it a few times and then u love it.... but later... u feel the other way....
and there are also cases where u hate the sound when u first heard it.... or just not satisfying enough.... but then later u will feel that ur ears love that same produced sound of the same speaker.... weird huh??? some people notice it while their speakers go through the "burn-in" process... others may only felt the psychology change in them.... so it is still up to them... their ears and their mind... how they want to receive the new sound... and get used to it....
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some speakers, they impress you on the first listen but if you listen longer then you'll feel fatiqued and so on, if im not mistaken these are called 'effect speakers' or something - shit stuff IMO tongue.gif

some speakers are just so low beyond your standard that you just feel like lambasting them like theres no tomorrow biggrin.gif

some speakers are actually good, but like things you didnt see at the first glance, you just didnt bother with them. later you grow to love them? laugh.gif

some speakers, they just sound down right right! thoroughly neutral, balanced, detailed and just so right! those are the speakers i want! drool.gif thumbup.gif

but at the end of the day, its all subjective and everyone has their own preference right? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(PcWork @ Sep 23 2006, 09:03 PM)
by the way. i think... with the treble and bass level set to neutral at MX5021. the horn isn't colouring the sound quite much. and IMHO, as bright as ATP3. but slightly over power... very slightly. if can custom replace the caps inside the tweeter to tame it down. should be perfect. some how i quite like the twin drive mid range. it provide power compare to singel drive. where it can pump out some sound all in suddent... and can feel the power. especially when plucking the guitar string, it can feel how hard the people plug it. ( of course, AM also can hear =P)
and it's less distortion compare to singel drive. (1 drive lawan 2 drive, sure 2 drive win) some more. when compare to bigger driver speaker. the 2 X 3 "  did provide more detail sound, i believe smaller drive can move faster in this case.
so twin drive i assume it can provide some detail than single bigger drive, and also provide louder sound than singel drive which is same size.
speaker might sound better than those with THX.
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i havent heard of the ATP3 before so i cant comment but the point i was trying to make was that the resonance coloured the upper frequencies and in turn created excessive sharpness/brightness. i cant say for sure, but if im not mistake this is a common problem with badly designed horns. i dont think there is much doubt that this is the cause of the 'problem' with the GMX.

wait, im confused with this one. youre saying the mx5021's twin drivers provide a better feel when compared to the aegoM, but detail wise they sound the same?
but there is a fine line between being detailed and being detailed because of being bright, dont you agree? unsure.gif

QUOTE(quinzzy @ Sep 23 2006, 10:54 PM)
izzit a waste to buy good speaker without good soundcard?? i'm using laptop and dunno wat is the brand of the sound card....
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definately. you cant do one without the other, but of course, when youre really tight for cash no one has a choice, right? laugh.gif

whatever the sound 'chip' in your lappy is [most likely an AC97] it probably woudnt be of much good if youre gonna pair it with >rm250 speakers!
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QUOTE(quinzzy @ Sep 23 2006, 10:54 PM)
izzit a waste to buy good speaker without good soundcard?? i'm using laptop and dunno wat is the brand of the sound card....
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nah. it's investment...

QUOTE(saiga @ Sep 24 2006, 02:56 AM)
I myself cannot accept edifier though...PLEASE,no need to be angry.this is MY PERSONAL TASTE  notworthy.gif
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well different taste.. =)
i personally can't accept all edifier. except mp220. =P
taste problem.


silon. about the detail of the MX5021 is not compare agains AEGO M. =P
it's compare to normal drive.
but AEGO M is extra ordinary case where singel drive has more detail then twin drive.
sorry for confuse.


 

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