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 Aircon Discussion v2, Continuing on from previous AC topics

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post May 30 2015, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(kenaban @ May 30 2015, 09:58 AM)
Midea kot ..
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Midea did much better than hitachi wow
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post May 30 2015, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ May 30 2015, 01:19 PM)
Go back to the shop you bought it, make noise, if they still refuse to look in to your matter seriuosly, waste rm5 and send them to tribunal court.
This is nothing to do with so-called condensation issues, it is more on installation or blocked cooling fin.
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Just the above photos can tell, no condensation shall take place on outdoor unit.
First photo the bottom part do have rust marks, it is due to install too near to the roof and getting water splashes during rain.
While second photo are installed below roof, so it is still clean.
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That 2 different unit of condenser is your?

i never get wrong there is after switch from national brand into pana model were over 10++ yrs already, no wonder didn't feel not cold enough, if you compare from the latest condenser design was small and small size than your previous model at all, like a 2hp condenser now.
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QUOTE(supersound @ May 30 2015, 01:36 PM)
Nope, I just look for units that have water mark below, just to help you guys justifying cheating are right. Mine are even worst, no rust mark at all, even after 10 years.
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that's why your is always doing in prefectly rclxms.gif
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post May 30 2015, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(lan_86 @ May 30 2015, 11:40 PM)
any a/c mechanic here?

My super old a/c  only run for few minutes then compressor stop,indoor unit still running but no more cool air...I can feel slight vibration on the wall before it stopped.

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post May 31 2015, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(queenc @ May 30 2015, 11:56 PM)
anyone can recommend me 1.5hp aircond below 1.3k

found few model panasonic and daikin slightly above 1k.

can recommend me 1?

thx
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May u needs look at the lower price from few China brands.
Midea, hassien, haier, gree, also fujiare too
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post May 31 2015, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ May 31 2015, 11:03 AM)
Are you sure it is a 6*6 room?
A single bed already eat up 3*6 already. So, do measure again.
1HP can fit a room up to 10*12 as the surface area also matters.
Brand A's 1HP won't same as brand B's 1HP.
Over size the air cond's HP won't do any good as it will damage the air cond faster.
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6x6m usually ppls will do with 2hp at least.
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QUOTE(^Ware^wolf @ May 31 2015, 07:23 PM)
recently i notice that both my living hall and master room aircon indoor unit got water dripping sound . wall and floor didnt wet ...weird enuf , it didnt leak out ... is it normal ?
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May I knew which model of your Aircon?

Like my previous hitachi has it issue, I think is the cooling coil an issue.


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post Jun 1 2015, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ May 31 2015, 10:53 PM)
Letting any electric appliance that are using motor, compressor to cut in/out too frequent are very bad. The coil may deteriorates faster, if the wiring connection are not done properly, it may create arching.
For non inverter air cond, the storage capacitor won't store enough charge to energize the outdoor unit.
As said, the surface area(after putting all furniture matters) needs to be known before choosing an air cond. Just the empty measurement won't be that accurate.
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Nowadays lesser n lesser ppls who going for non inverter leh.

If from inverter would be more accurate to calculate by self and space to kick for optimum power to draw in for cooling as fast.

That is why compressor runs much durable than non inverter start & stop for non stopping.

If prefer to use from non-inverter just turns on in daytime cause wouldn't has issue like compressor start/stop an issue, once at night really worst like non stopping to kick in full power after 15mins to be cut off again.

Oversize horsepower would be best option for able to set in lower speed & temp at all, also power saving, unlike under power in each setting you might go for the lowered temp degree and higher fan speed to suit your condition and space.

3x4m = 1hp
3x6m = 1.5hp
6x6m = 2hp
6x12m = 2.5hp or 2 units of 1.5+2hp just a option only

Most of user we're hope their Aircon can be as cold as fast than what they expected, or rather than keep it slower and eat more energy forever.
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post Jun 1 2015, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Jun 1 2015, 08:18 AM)
Since you talk like a pro, why not you dump all of your current air conds and buy 1HP oversize?
If your bill still the same, then only you talk. Else, don't spread lies to mislead people.
Sellers want to make money also will ask what is the room size and never ask people to buy oversized air conds.
What ever that you never do, don't ask others to do.
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That is why I had given you as a list for room size above, if you wanna go for wrong decision then I has no comment
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QUOTE(^Ware^wolf @ Jun 1 2015, 09:27 AM)
if use flexible pvc hose , that mean i need to get a longer hose ?
since my drain pipe 2-3meter...LoL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyvPR7yMqbk
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Just use pvc hose tapping from water tap and slot into Aircon discharge point will do..

Another thing would be the installer never do a proper slopping into a side.

This post has been edited by kimsim: Jun 1 2015, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(^Ware^wolf @ Jun 1 2015, 09:51 AM)
air con installer ? or those who do concealed piping ?
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hose for water outlet pipe, not the copper pipe laugh.gif

just check the aircon indoor unit was the water fall on 1 side to outlet pipe or isn't too flat so the water collected into drain pan and just overfall on after when it is full.

This post has been edited by kimsim: Jun 1 2015, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(^Ware^wolf @ Jun 1 2015, 10:02 AM)
if it is due to this , shouldnt i have heard the dripping sound since i 1st use it  ? erm...water dripping only happen recently ...
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sure lah, when new is dry where got water leaving on drain pan.
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QUOTE(^Ware^wolf @ Jun 1 2015, 10:32 AM)
if its due to too flat , what can i do ? can i tilt ?
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can slot thing hard cover on one side
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daikin 1hp vs ME starmex 1hp really smaller condenser size at all.

but daikin performance quite well also rclxms.gif

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post Jun 3 2015, 07:15 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jun 3 2015, 05:06 AM)
ME like peugeot/BMW whereas Pana like Toyota/Nissan/Daihatsu. which one you like lor? even my toshiba small outdoor capacitor only costed me rm 10 lor
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 2 2015, 11:12 PM)
Holi crap my ME spare parts almost double pana parts...  Every single one of it... 

Just change the capasitor (non inverter ) ac guy say parts not alot for ME and ME control all the price...  And parts availibility is low...

Pana can get parts easily and competitor make parts cheap...  And i have 3unit of ME another 2 is panasonic...
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Pana most parts made in China for the cost definitely was cheap.
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jun 2 2015, 04:11 PM)
kimsim can you post Gree outdoor unit? the biggest outdoor unit is ME?
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Gree 1hp smaller like Daikin
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QUOTE(babyk @ Jun 3 2015, 09:27 AM)
Pana parts are made in Malaysia at Kulim plant laugh.gif
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Just assembly only
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 3 2015, 10:24 AM)
ME parts I check with my aircon contractor is also same quality... same shit capacitor same manufacturer as Pana (Same OEM) just the design is different and hell it is expensive...

Reason for it is not panasonic parts is low quality but because the sheer amount of panasonic aircon user in malaysia make it cheap and they are available pretty much easily as they have stock on it.

ME parts expensive as they can only get from HQ or Authorised center which mark-up like no business hence expensive... also some model need to order which will take like 1-2 weeks...the common parts same shitty manufacturer also... Fan motor (outdoor) cost RM500-600 while panasonic ones only cost RM250-300

let's assume Panasonic parts is cheap and low Q (say lasted 5 years) I still willing to only pay RM250 for it since spare parts only warranty for freaking 3-6 month...

ME spares also warranty for 3-6 month only but the cost double holy shit!!! if they give me 1-2 years then I dont mind paying more...
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That why go for inverter if you can..

My ME so far has 6 yrs now, so far so good
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 3 2015, 10:33 AM)
Depends..

If you take the old Daikin (Made in thailand) it is pretty good minus the ionizer and stuff very basic

of you take the Daikin GA (cooling king) it is made by YORK basically it is rebrand of YORK which I dont like the quality... it is good but only lasted 3-5 years then it degrade very very fast... leaking noisy vibration etc etc

Panasonic if get the inverter deluxe version pretty good come with basically everything... doubt it cost this cheap...

since your price is around this I bet it is non inverter... I'll go with pana for cheap parts and long run...

daikin unless the thailand ones pretty good actually... not the daikin GA
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Seem like you never kena after warranty PCB failed for Daikin Thailand, that is too common already, 2 pcs of PCB over Rm700

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