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 Aircon Discussion v2, Continuing on from previous AC topics

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post May 19 2015, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(rae0724 @ May 19 2015, 02:02 PM)
means.. the r22 aircond can install with r410a pipe~
but cannot use it anymore if i install r410 aircond next time?
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Cause R22 installation fee was cheaper also use cheaper copper pipe and the thickness you should expected how much you pay for.

R410a gas Cooper would be much expansive cost need to avoid higher pressure and gas leak after that.
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post May 20 2015, 07:41 AM

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QUOTE(nomoredfox @ May 20 2015, 07:17 AM)
Electrolux (Invertor's remote, with big screen)
It has a sensor for the ac to detect. (i-Feel mode)

do you know where to get it ?

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How come so easy to spoil?

Check with seller will do, if not just go any computer shop or pasar Maram see wether got selling the universal will work

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QUOTE(cloud666 @ May 20 2015, 03:39 PM)
cant think of why need change whole piping with already r410a piping installed., couldnt be the gas still remain in the pipe right...if change to r410a aircon for sure whole set indoor unit and compressor also change to new one right..

in my case, currently r22 piping, my contractor even told me in future can change to inverter/r410a aircon but need to do proper welding.. dont know how true is that  blink.gif
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Just ask him diesel car can able to used with petrol?
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 20 2015, 07:28 PM)
but in another way can lor. r410a pipe using r22 pipe. just make sure at least 0.6mm thick
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No body can tell in previous installed cooper pipe grade are G23 at least 0.6mm
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 20 2015, 07:28 PM)
but in another way can lor. r410a pipe using r22 pipe. just make sure at least 0.6mm thick
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No body can tell in previous installed cooper pipe grade are G23 at least 0.6mm

Actually can install with R22, but in the warranty won't be able to claim, if they found the user made used with existing R22 copper pipeline
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QUOTE(noien @ May 21 2015, 09:45 AM)
but if the house does come with pre installed piping(for R22) which is nvr been use. then i can used it for R410?
as it is new and no gas inside.
if can confirm it is 0.6mm then it would be better isnt it ?
as i don wish to rehack the whole thing.
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If confirm the contractor given for at least 0.6mm should be find.

If less than 0.6mm, like 0.55mm will be leak at bending area, But I never tried before..

Cause my new Aircon when installed at same time must be used the new Cooper pipe.. Cause if we're using the existing pipe the cost still there and install new pipe the cost also be the same, why not using new pipes.

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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ May 21 2015, 03:00 PM)
Daikin r22 rm850 vs daikin r410a rm900...
Which is a better pick?
Of coz installation fees rm150 vs rm180...
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Get R410a lah, u never get wrong, cause you pay for monthly bill was lower than R22.
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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ May 21 2015, 03:21 PM)
Non inverter also cheaper electrical bill?
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Anyway higher pressure on R410a gas, so u do not set lower temp to suit your house condition.

Also r410a keep faster cooling may reduce to energy efficiently as well
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post May 21 2015, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ May 21 2015, 05:27 PM)
So daikin r22 vs r410a...
Which is a better pick?
Maybe i mis-understand wat he means by do not lower my temp to suit my room condition...
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Meant on R22 never achieve what you set for.
Cause low presure = slower cooling in hot weather.

R410a faster cooling = energy saving also compressor runs in normal input watts via R22 keep in higher input watts for taken longer hours to draw in more power energy.

(Just only who ever saying samsung not good but were used samsung, never realized what's cooling n comfort against energy saving)

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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ May 21 2015, 06:38 PM)
Ic,got it...
Btw,in terms of servicing...
All my house r using r22...
About 5 of them,den i will be d one using r410a...
Will it be troublesome as d service ppl nid to bring another type of gas or something?
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Lol I think for when newbie Aircon man will doing it such thing..

You dunno R410a very common already in the markets so far.
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QUOTE(DecaPix @ May 21 2015, 05:16 PM)
wow...how can 23 degree be same as 20 degree?
this thread is really 'informative'
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Have to understanding diffirent Aircon & compressor grade & design with same horsepower but the out put was slightly different at at.

Why you guys chosen brands.. The reason is don't buy lemon unit.


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post May 22 2015, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(mghong @ May 21 2015, 11:14 PM)
Anyone using MIT Slim model ? i hear ESH said sparepart is expensive compare with mainstream like Pana / Sharp...etc ?
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What is ESH?
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post May 23 2015, 02:28 AM

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Wow now the ME has been phase out of R22 gas n to be
Replace with All R410a gas type already

http://mitsubishielectricmalaysia.com/site...ecification.pdf

http://mitsubishielectricmalaysia.com/inde...a/#wall-mounted

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post May 25 2015, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(mghong @ May 25 2015, 02:18 AM)
bro , the installer told me to stay out from ME as spare part also expensive wow.

as for samsung and LG , they can fit it but repair need direct from samsung & LG , will it better still ?
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You are wrong, if you might worried about spare parts an expansive, why not consider for Daikin GA M'sia, they was cheaper n affordable too
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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ May 25 2015, 08:04 AM)
Anione can confirn with me d daikin GA R410a is 3 star rating for d power consumption thing?
As dis reali make me surprise as ME onli 2 stars for ME mr. Slim basic series...
Btw,noise wise is more or less d same with my 8 year-old panasonic air-cond,i mean medium vs medium...
If max fan is a bit noisy,but currently i am jz using 25 celcius on low for sleeping,reali damn cold...
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Why not consider for Daikin GA inverter model? Since it is good deal at that price?

Never let you disappointed of indoor or outdoor noise at all.

Just check out my reviews from previous still under York
http://www.kimrovacstore.com/mitsubishi-el...lean-video.html

2 stars meant that compressor input watt higher than BTU capacity, Why going for ME basic model?
Just get thier deluxe ME non inverter R410a model at 750w only, if you really wanted for ME
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QUOTE(supersound @ May 25 2015, 08:09 AM)
After gas is the star rating doh.gif
Spend more time in the shop and check the power consumption.
That's more accurate.
This is how I know that beside air cond that really making difference on the power consumption, other appliances won't really help on power savings.
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You too old already... Like buy a car and the specs has meantion lower hosepower and the weight x 2 than engine capacity then you still buy?

End out like what? Petrol drinker lah bro.
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post May 25 2015, 08:18 AM

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Nowadays still keep that old mindset .. No wonder this country never grow and keep currency just going down only.

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QUOTE(noien @ May 25 2015, 09:04 AM)
currency going down is mostly related to our songlaper and not about the mindset.
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When sometime keep inside the house and never open window for look out then never reliase everything has been changed already.

InB4 everyone talks like R22 is a god model & today has many MFGs has been changed their specs keep going for R410a died died we must be follow up also
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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ May 25 2015, 10:07 AM)
Jz to know more about air-cond,ntg wrong as dis is a discussion thread...
U can keep ur word for urself is u r not willing to provide info...
Brw,bro bro kimsim for d explaination...
ME is adi expansive for standard model,so i nv ask for d deluxe model...
Btw,i did't see ani daikin L series with r410a in daikin website...
As i see my design is d M series,but d gas shown is different,specs i am not so sure...
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Check here
http://www.daikin.com.my/Daikin_Catalogue/FTN-1114-A.pdf

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