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post Oct 29 2014, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(vaksin @ Oct 29 2014, 08:13 AM)
thinking about buying 1 also.. dont know which 1 to choose.. any suggestion fellas?
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You should have any brand right.

Mit Pana Daikin York Sharp
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post Oct 29 2014, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 29 2014, 08:11 AM)
Works, u can't feels, if the filter already stuck too many dusts, then become more dirty air to be blowing out to you.

More works is buy separate ionizer & air purifier much better
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I see. But I thought air cond only comes with 1 air filter? if the air filter get stuck with dust, even the blowing air from the air cond without ionizer also dirty right?
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post Oct 29 2014, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(scdvom @ Oct 29 2014, 08:21 AM)
I see. But I thought air cond only comes with 1 air filter? if the air filter get stuck with dust, even the blowing air from the air cond without ionizer also dirty right?
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When the filter get stuck with dust, you need to clean it, like 1 month it stuck 50% then every 2 weeks you need to clean it.
Till today I never trust that air cond with fancy functions can make us healthier, best is still eat healthily, do regular exercise(or sexercise brows.gif ), drink more water and use less air cond.
When air is too dry(since another air cond function is to remove moisture content in your room), this can make our body dry also. When this happens, our lung will start to produce sputum to keep air passage wet which later develope cough.
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For newbie only
How do you choose an the right Air-Con for your home!

1. Please visit here nearness of you, such as jusco or any aircon shops for asking specs or visit thier website online for checking the right specs.
2. Please look at the smaller input watts : such as 800w (8000BTU / 800w = 10 EER) at least go for 11 EER for more energy saving.
3. Choose your specs " Inverter or Non-Inverter.
4. Don't get brushing from salesman for Non-Inverter last more longer or Inverter Gas more expansive for future top up.. (Answer: Wrong)
Inverter unit last more longer runs or more durable for breakdown, even Gas R410a would be going to cheaper in future..if your aircon gas leaks :
meant that installation no up to qauilfied of installation experience, meant the gas leakage would be in the short of within 2 weeks time only.
5. Good in workmanship : meant even usage up to 10 yrs you still don't worried for gas top up else, just do the monthly filter clean out
mantain like new for last longer.
6. Nowadays if your aircon can be last up to 10 yrs = the condition also need to be replacement new unit already,
higher maintenance would be coming up on after 5 yrs and above : such as compressor mounting, fan motor magnet, blower noisy, casing getting rust
or dusts blocked over an aluminium coil fins else, (apply additional filter can be save up your trouble or money for call for service).
7. Pana, Mit Mr Slim, MHI, Daikin, Hitachi, York, Sharp, LG, Samsung all you can decided, for those brands have thier Pro and Cons.

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post Oct 29 2014, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 29 2014, 08:17 AM)
You should have any brand right.

Mit Pana Daikin York Sharp
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how about MHI vs York?

ttp://www.renotalk.com/forum/topic/10567-mitsubishi-heavy-industry-aircon/
see very good review of MHI

MHI also easy clean


AC Mitsubishi Low watt series (1/2pk) SRK-05CM-3
Smallest indoor design, Low Watt(320 watt)
Feature:
½ PK
- Low Wattage 320 Watt
- The smallest AC in the world
- Compact Size
- Long Reach Air Flow
- One Action Filter

Spesifikasi :
CAPACITY
Cool 1.46 kW
BTU/h 5.000
INPUT & EER
320 Watt
13.3
DIMENSIONS ( W x H x D )
Indoor 262 x 614 x 210 mm
Outdoor 437 x 708.7 x 336 mm

Overview :
• COMPACT SIZE
Thanks to this new fin configuration applied to “Heavy Duty Micro”, the desired result is its compact size.

• LONG REACH AIR FLOW
With our remarkable jet flow technology. It allows at once long reach air flow (11m) and minimum power consumption.

• ONE ACTION FILTER
For easy maintenance filter can be taken off and put on easily by just 1 slide action.

• LUMINOUS BUTTON
With wireless “luminous” remote controls that even “glow in the dark”, it is possible to operate all desired function of the unit with the click of a button.

• 24-HOUR PROGRAMMABLE TIMER
By combining a start timer with a stop timer, you can register two timer operations a day. Once set, timers will faithfully start or stop the system at a specified time of the day repeatedly.

• SELF DIAGNOSTIC
In the case that the air conditioner malfunctions an internal microcomputer automatically runs a self diagnostic (inspections and repair should be performed by authorized dealer).

• AUTO RESTART
Power blackout auto restart function is a function that records the operational status of the air conditioner immediately prior to it being switched off by a power cut and the automatically resumes operations at that point after the power has been restart.
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post Oct 29 2014, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 29 2014, 08:48 AM)
For newbie only
How do you choose an the right Air-Con for your home!

1. Please visit here nearness of you, such as jusco or any aircon shops for asking specs or visit thier website online for checking the right specs.
2. Please look at the smaller input watts : such as 800w (8000BTU / 800w = 10 EER) at least go for 11 EER for more energy saving.
3. Choose your specs " Inverter or Non-Inverter.
4. Don't get brushing from salesman for Non-Inverter last more longer or Inverter Gas more expansive for future top up.. (Answer: Wrong)
Inverter unit last more longer runs or more durable for breakdown, even Gas R410a would be going to cheaper in future..if your aircon gas leaks :
meant that installation no up to qauilfied of installation experience, meant the gas leakage would be in the short of within 2 weeks time only.
5. Good in workmanship : meant even usage up to 10 yrs you still don't worried for gas top up else, just do the monthly filter clean out
mantain like new for last longer.
6. Nowadays if your aircon can be last up to 10 yrs = the condition also need to be replacement new unit already,
higher maintenance would be coming up on after 5 yrs and above : such as compressor mounting, fan motor magnet, blower noisy, casing getting rust
or dusts blocked over an aluminium coil fins else, (apply additional filter can be save up your trouble or money for call for service).
7. Pana, Mit Mr Slim, MHI, Daikin, Hitachi, York, Sharp, LG, Samsung all you can decided, for those brands have thier Pro and Cons. 

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your statements some are flaw :
6. all are condition based, like location of the outdoor unit, if always exposed to rain water and direct sunlight or near to sea, sure rust faster. Mine till now never rust and electric bill still remain the same. So please stop mislead people.
1. this is not the right place as most of the promoters know nuts.
2. again, don't mislead people with such numbers. A person shall choose his right air cond based on room size, wall condition before looking at those numbers. Power consumption will be important.
4. Inverter do last long, but not the sensors and the electronics inside.
5. By setting the coldest temperature with highest fan speed all the time, the gas will be missing over the time. But if use it gently, it will last long, so don't mislead people.
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post Oct 29 2014, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Oct 29 2014, 08:49 AM)
how about MHI vs York?

ttp://www.renotalk.com/forum/topic/10567-mitsubishi-heavy-industry-aircon/
see very good review of MHI

MHI also easy clean
AC Mitsubishi Low watt series (1/2pk) SRK-05CM-3
Smallest indoor design, Low Watt(320 watt)
Feature:
½ PK
- Low Wattage 320 Watt
- The smallest AC in the world
- Compact Size
- Long Reach Air Flow
- One Action Filter

Spesifikasi :
CAPACITY
Cool 1.46 kW
BTU/h 5.000
INPUT & EER
320 Watt
13.3
DIMENSIONS ( W x H x D )
Indoor 262 x 614 x 210 mm
Outdoor 437 x 708.7 x 336 mm

Overview :
• COMPACT SIZE
Thanks to this new fin configuration applied to “Heavy Duty Micro”, the desired result is its compact size.

• LONG REACH AIR FLOW
With our remarkable jet flow technology. It allows at once long reach air flow (11m) and minimum power consumption.

• ONE ACTION FILTER
For easy maintenance filter can be taken off and put on easily by just 1 slide action.

• LUMINOUS BUTTON
With wireless “luminous” remote controls that even “glow in the dark”, it is possible to operate all desired function of the unit with the click of a button.

• 24-HOUR PROGRAMMABLE TIMER
By combining a start timer with a stop timer, you can register two timer operations a day. Once set, timers will faithfully start or stop the system at a specified time of the day repeatedly.

• SELF DIAGNOSTIC
In the case that the air conditioner malfunctions an internal microcomputer automatically runs a self diagnostic (inspections and repair should be performed by authorized dealer).

• AUTO RESTART
Power blackout auto restart function is a function that records the operational status of the air conditioner immediately prior to it being switched off by a power cut and the automatically resumes operations at that point after the power has been restart.
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Pana vs MHI or ME.

Pana actually can be more durable than MHI, for MHI don't have thier own team for after sales supports.
Parts wise for Pana more easy to get or replace else, unlike MHI have to do order from Thailand.

Pana got thier strong supporter like "Supersound" bro or some user from National to Pana, died died would go Pana,
also like my bro in law house all items was Pana.. just see the brand and get bored.

In S'pore MHI really much cheaper than ME, for ME got thier high tech n higher BTU of compressor capacity to suit up
muilti split unit and rooms, for MHI really much easir for spoil on thier PCB of outdoor compressor, if wanna last longer
then go for ME is the best of Muilt split choices.

Pana would not too cold or quiet like ME quietess in 19dBA for thier GE10/13VA model, but now they had change for GJ10VA on 21dBA already,
also called cut cost at all, but they have strong point for easy clean, that is the best for user can be without any tool and
easily to access into blower part for empty dust in few minutes.

Wanna branded then go for Pana lah, but MHI deluxe model got thier best for lower input watts at 680w only for inverter series.

What do you think for.. im have no idea, but if im move back to Kuching for sure, i would like to ask Melco service centre in KCH
for order ME aircon and bring to Kch for my own house there.

Thanks.

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post Oct 29 2014, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 29 2014, 09:04 AM)
your statements some are flaw :
6. all are condition based, like location of the outdoor unit, if always exposed to rain water and direct sunlight or near to sea, sure rust faster. Mine till now never rust and electric bill still remain the same. So please stop mislead people.
1. this is not the right place as most of the promoters know nuts.
2. again, don't mislead people with such numbers. A person shall choose his right air cond based on room size, wall condition before looking at those numbers. Power consumption will be important.
4. Inverter do last long, but not the sensors and the electronics inside.
5. By setting the coldest temperature with highest fan speed all the time, the gas will be missing over the time. But if use it gently, it will last long, so don't mislead people.
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Most inverter just need preset on 25C only for non-inverter how much lower u can set?

Size of room you never say, from the salesman would recommend you.

If in the good condition for the gas will be never leak at all, unless is coil fins broken.



This post has been edited by kimsim: Oct 29 2014, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 29 2014, 08:37 AM)
When the filter get stuck with dust, you need to clean it, like 1 month it stuck 50% then every 2 weeks you need to clean it.
Till today I never trust that air cond with fancy functions can make us healthier, best is still eat healthily, do regular exercise(or sexercise brows.gif ), drink more water and use less air cond.
When air is too dry(since another air cond function is to remove moisture content in your room), this can make our body dry also. When this happens, our lung will start to produce sputum to keep air passage wet which later develope cough.
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Sexercise haha....After all, ionizer is not a point to concern for the air cond unit? Alright!!! But I really need a long last model. Will turning on my cond for more than 12 hours per day. For long term running, those services / parts repair; inverter or non inverter can save more cost?

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 29 2014, 09:07 AM)
Pana vs MHI or ME.

Pana actually can be more durable than MHI, for MHI don't have thier own team for after sales supports.
Parts wise for Pana more easy to get or replace else, unlike MHI have to do order from Thailand.

Pana got thier strong supporter like "Supersound" bro or some user from National to Pana, died died would go Pana,
also like my bro in law house all items was Pana.. just see the brand and get bored.

In S'pore MHI really much cheaper than ME, for ME got thier high tech n higher BTU of compressor capacity to suit up
muilti split unit and rooms, for MHI really much easir for spoil on thier PCB of outdoor compressor, if wanna last longer
then go for ME is the best of Muilt split choices.

Pana would not too cold or quiet like ME quietess in 19dBA for thier GE10/13VA model, but now they had change for GJ10VA on 21dBA already,
also called cut cost at all, but they have strong point for easy clean, that is the best for user can be without any tool and
easily to access into blower part for empty dust in few minutes.

Wanna branded then go for Pana lah, but MHI deluxe model got thier best for lower input watts at 680w only for inverter series.

What do you think for.. im have no idea, but if im move back to Kuching for sure, i would like to ask Melco service centre in KCH
for order ME aircon and bring to Kch for my own house there.

Thanks.
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how about york vs MHI bro?
MHI also have easy clean no need tool now. I do not want to consider COOL aircon. I just wanna consider the COLD aircon which are MHI, Daikin, ME, and York.

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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 29 2014, 08:37 AM)
When the filter get stuck with dust, you need to clean it, like 1 month it stuck 50% then every 2 weeks you need to clean it.
Till today I never trust that air cond with fancy functions can make us healthier, best is still eat healthily, do regular exercise(or sexercise brows.gif ), drink more water and use less air cond.
When air is too dry(since another air cond function is to remove moisture content in your room), this can make our body dry also. When this happens, our lung will start to produce sputum to keep air passage wet which later develope cough.
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how about fridge with ion, vitamin, crisper, anti smell? for fridge I follow you using Sanyo since it's part of panasonic. choose the brand manufacturer that produce jet pump since the compressor are similar.
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Oct 29 2014, 09:41 AM)
how about york vs MHI bro?
MHI also have easy clean no need tool now. I do not want to consider COOL aircon. I just wanna consider the COLD aircon which are MHI, Daikin, ME, and York.
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York when brand new is good like branded Aircon, after incoming 3 yrs time, once you clean out internal blower was getting vibration and created some noisy n can't solved. Maybe is rubber bearing on blower to be put some grease, when I'm go back in Sibu for my wife home town n solve for it.

MHI I'm really no comment cause due to hard getting info, I guess is can't easy clean lah
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QUOTE(scdvom @ Oct 29 2014, 09:15 AM)
Sexercise haha....After all, ionizer is not a point to concern for the air cond unit? Alright!!! But I really need a long last model. Will turning on my cond for more than 12 hours per day. For long term running, those services / parts repair; inverter or non inverter can save more cost?
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12 hours? Get inverter, for me that are using only 4-5 hours a day, I need 5-6 years to get back the savings from inverter.
The best way is do not use econavi, just use the normal function will do.
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Oct 29 2014, 09:45 AM)
how about fridge with ion, vitamin, crisper, anti smell? for fridge I follow you using Sanyo since it's part of panasonic. choose the brand manufacturer that produce jet pump since the compressor are similar.
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I don't bother much with those fancy functions. Since my food are fresh most of the time.
Even my basic Panasonic fridge can keep stuffs up to 1 week without problem.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 29 2014, 09:51 AM)
12 hours? Get inverter, for me that are using only 4-5 hours a day, I need 5-6 years to get back the savings from inverter.
The best way is do not use econavi, just use the normal function will do.
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Alright, thanks for the share dude.
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 29 2014, 09:46 AM)
York when brand new is good like branded Aircon, after incoming 3 yrs time, once you clean out internal blower was getting vibration and created some noisy n can't solved. Maybe is rubber bearing on blower to be put some grease, when I'm go back in Sibu for my wife home town n solve for it.

MHI I'm really no comment cause due to hard getting info, I guess is can't easy clean lah
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Aiksss....thinking of to get the York. Is all the model from York will turn noisy after the cleaning of internal blower?
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QUOTE(scdvom @ Oct 29 2014, 09:55 AM)
Aiksss....thinking of to get the York. Is all the model from York will turn noisy after the cleaning of internal blower?
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Maybe yes there was never solved like proton car after few years and turn much noisy

Cause is cheaper cost ma

Maybe that blower bearing rubber just few riggit only.
Like mounting have to change ha ha

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QUOTE(scdvom @ Oct 29 2014, 09:55 AM)
Aiksss....thinking of to get the York. Is all the model from York will turn noisy after the cleaning of internal blower?
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York is a known brand for noisy, good for office usage but not for sleeping whistling.gif
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 28 2014, 02:59 PM)
Samsung & LG art-cool should the legend also.

But due to their technology more advance than others traditional jap brands & also they never push on Ads at all.

So no ppls will realized that is already improved a lot than previous design.
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samsung is too cheap..price will be same like china brand. we are afraid of cheap pricing ma..better the most expensive ME, Pana and Daikin ma.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 29 2014, 09:58 AM)
York is a known brand for noisy, good for office usage but not for sleeping whistling.gif
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If you know how to charge it by own, there's really good brand, cold enough and powerful also with quiet mode really works

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