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TSVolkswagen2
post Oct 22 2014, 10:46 PM, updated 11y ago

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Just read this article on some car manufacturers recalling their vehicles due to faulty Takata airbags in the US. Toyota recalled 247,000 vehicles in the United States.

The Takata airbags when deployed, are launching metal shrapnel at occupants. Some scary shit.

It seems that certain models from Toyota, Honda, Mazda, BMW, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Chrysler, Ford and General Motors are installed with Takata airbags. Does anybody have any idea which model are installed with Takata airbags, and whether the Malaysian models come with these Takata airbags as well?


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post Oct 22 2014, 11:13 PM

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US agency warns car owners to get air bags fixed

DETROIT (AP) -- A potential safety crisis over defective air bags widened Monday as the U.S. government issued an urgent plea to more than 4.7 million people to get their cars fixed.

The inflator mechanisms in the air bags can rupture, causing metal fragments to fly out when the bags are deployed in crashes.

Safety advocates say at least four people have died from the problem and there have been multiple injuries. They also say more than 20 million vehicles in the U.S. are equipped with the faulty air bags.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration warned people whose cars have been recalled during the past two years for faulty air bag inflators to take them to dealers right away. The inflators are made by Takata Corp., a Tokyo-based supplier of seat belts, air bags, steering wheels and other auto parts. So far, automakers have recalled about 12 million vehicles worldwide because of the problem.

"This message comes with urgency," NHTSA said in a statement. The agency has been investigating the problem since June, and has cited reports of six inflators rupturing, causing three injuries.

The warning covers cars made by Toyota, Honda, Mazda, BMW, Nissan, General Motors and Ford. Passenger or driver air bags or both could be affected depending on the vehicle.

Toyota issued the latest recall Monday, covering passenger air bags in 247,000 older model vehicles including the Lexus SC, Corolla, Matrix, Sequoia and Tundra.

Like many of the other recalls, the Toyota recall covers vehicles in South Florida, along the Gulf Coast, in Puerto Rico, Hawaii, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, Saipan and American Samoa — all areas that have high absolute humidity. Toyota, in documents posted on the NHTSA website, said the company and Takata are still trying to pinpoint the cause of the rupture and to gauge the influence of high absolute humidity.

Absolute humidity is a measurement of water vapor in the air, while relative humidity, which is commonly used in weather reports, measures air moisture content relative to the air temperature.

Toyota has been testing the air bags, and it found an unusually high incidence of inflator failures along the coasts, according to spokesman John Hanson. The investigation continues and the recall could be expanded to more areas, Hanson said.

Toyota says it knows of no crashes or injuries from the cars it has recalled.

Neither Toyota nor NHTSA could say exactly how far inland the recall area goes or what states it covers.

NHTSA urged people to check if their car has been recalled by going to https://vinrcl.safercar.gov/vin/and typing in their vehicle identification number.

Clarence Ditlow, executive director of the nonprofit Center for Auto Safety, estimated there are 20 million to 25 million cars in the U.S. alone that are equipped with the faulty air bags.

Toyota said repairs will be done for free and notices will go into the mail starting around Oct. 25, according to documents. People who live in areas that are outside of the recall zone who are afraid of driving their cars should contact their dealerships, Hanson said.

Last week, two U.S. senators questioned why the safety agency is allowing the recalls to be done on a regional basis because cars could be driven to, or people could move to the high-humidity states.

They also cited the May 27, 2009, death of 18-year-old Ashley Parham of Oklahoma City. She was driving a 2001 Honda Accord across a high school parking lot in Midwest City, Oklahoma, when it hit another car. The air bag inflated and sent shards of metal into her neck, causing her death.

"Based on NHTSA's open investigation, the agency will take appropriate action, including expanding the scope of the recall if warranted," an agency statement said.

Takata has said it recognizes the critical role that government plays in public safety, and it is supporting safety regulators. [Source]
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post Oct 22 2014, 11:49 PM

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Yikes. Sounds like Final Destination if the Takata air bags are deployed. Metal shrapnel and pieces of loose metal bars come flying to you in all directions. Might as well they don't deploy.
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post Oct 23 2014, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ Oct 22 2014, 11:49 PM)
Yikes. Sounds like Final Destination if the Takata air bags are deployed. Metal shrapnel and pieces of loose metal bars come flying to you in all directions. Might as well they don't deploy.
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post Oct 23 2014, 07:19 AM

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QUOTE(Xu3r @ Oct 23 2014, 12:03 AM)
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The killer metal shrapnel are not outside material but from inside the vehicle. Parts of the airbag or the car that pierce through the airbags when the airbags are deployed. It is scary to imagine that the airbags which are supposed to be a saving device is going to kill you by launching shrapnel onto your face and neck. Might as well take the airbags out if that's the case.

I wonder if the car models over here in Malaysia are affected as in the USA. Apparently very quiet here. Though when accidents happen the authorities here won't probably go into detail like CSI and just regard mishaps as sudden death due to negligence, and that the airbags failed to protect the occupant in extreme situations even though they are deployed.
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post Oct 23 2014, 08:29 AM

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Looks like many models are affected, though they are older models year 2000-2006. Apparently even though there are recalls in the US, defective airbags are still in use in the US. Looks like people are expecting for the airbags to stay in their respective compartments for life, not expecting the airbags to deploy. If that's the case, might be better to produce cars without air bags at all.

Car models affected:-

BMW: 2000–2006 3-series sedan and wagon; 2000–2006 3-series coupe and convertible
Chrysler: 2006 Dodge Charger (additional models unknown as of now)
Ford: 2004 Ranger, 2005–2006 GT, 2005–2007 Mustang
General Motors: 2003–2005 Pontiac Vibe, 2013–2014 Cruze (different Takata module, similar problem)
Honda/Acura: 2001–2007 Accord, 2001–2005 Civic, 2002–2006 CR-V, 2003–2011 Element, 2002–2004 Odyssey, 2002–2007 Pilot, 2006 Ridgeline; 2002–2003 CL and TL, 2005 RL, 2003–2006 MDX
Mazda: 2003–2007 Mazda 6, 2006–2007 Mazdaspeed 6, 2004 MPV, 2004–2008 RX-8
Nissan/Infiniti: 2001–2003 vehicles (complete model list and most years unknown)
Subaru: 2003–2004 Baja, Legacy, Outback; 2004 Impreza
Toyota/Lexus: 2003–2005 Corolla, Matrix, Sequoia, Tundra; 2003–2005 SC430



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Stephanie Erdman's life changed forever in September of last year.

The Florida woman was involved in a collision in a Honda Civic.
The airbag exploded and sent shrapnel into her face.

Two people have died -- an 18 year old in Oklahoma and a mother of three in Virginia -- when the airbags did not perform as designed.

A coroner's report in California links a third death.

A government database shows more than 100 people have reported being hurt. All from airbags manufactured by the Takata Corporation of Japan.

"This is one of the deadliest defects that we have ever seen," says Ditlow. "Yet 10 years later we are just beginning to get to the bottom of it."

Documents filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, or NHTSA, show Honda, the biggest buyer of Takata airbags, first learned about an exploding airbag in 2004. They recalled about 4,000 cars in 2008. The recalls have now reached 11 million vehicles.

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post Oct 23 2014, 08:35 AM

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Suppose to help saved life end up takes life.
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post Oct 23 2014, 08:45 AM

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Proton not on the list. Proton FTW!!!

Anyway, i think this news was quiet awhile ago.

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post Oct 23 2014, 09:06 AM

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Damn man, lucky my car model is not in the list. Many Honda models and also Mazda 6. Only older models. THe new models should be ok.
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post Oct 23 2014, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Oct 23 2014, 08:45 AM)
Proton not on the list. Proton FTW!!!

Anyway, i think this news was quiet awhile ago.
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post Oct 23 2014, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(foohoa @ Oct 23 2014, 09:06 AM)
syukur kancil tiada airbag
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My old Savvy also dun have...must be in high demand now after this news...damn...
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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Oct 23 2014, 09:06 AM)
Damn man, lucky my car model is not in the list. Many Honda models and also Mazda 6. Only older models. THe new models should be ok.
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Mine in the list sweat.gif .....Anyone interested to buy a 2005 Honda Civic ?
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post Oct 23 2014, 09:55 AM

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for previous thread started on this June 2014, here is the link

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3267999/


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post Oct 23 2014, 09:58 AM

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Looks like what prevent you from being killed is actually killing you...
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post Oct 23 2014, 10:49 AM

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"If you want people to drive more safely you have to get rid of seatbelts, airbags and all the other things that make things safer for the driver, and replace them with a six inch spike on the steering wheel pointing towards the driver's chest. Now that would make you drive f***ing carefully, wouldn't it!"


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post Oct 23 2014, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Oct 23 2014, 09:09 AM)
My old Savvy also dun have...must be in high demand now after this news...damn...
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are you nuts??? what logic is that... jus buy whatever car that has the killer airbag after pressing the price down and throw the airbag away la...
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post Oct 23 2014, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(nm7 @ Oct 23 2014, 11:52 AM)
are you nuts??? what logic is that... jus buy whatever car that has the killer airbag after pressing the price down and throw the airbag away la...
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Betul jugak....shocking.gif..must start business to remove Airbags!!! brows.gif
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post Oct 23 2014, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Oct 23 2014, 12:04 PM)
Betul jugak....shocking.gif..must start business to remove Airbags!!!  brows.gif
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tats more like it... me first line up got discount or not...

and do you bypass srs warning lights cause i have been trying to swap for an omp steering for the longest time possible buy can't figure out how to bypass that damn blinking srs light if i disconnect my airbag...

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post Oct 23 2014, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(nm7 @ Oct 23 2014, 12:08 PM)
tats more like it... me first line up got discount or not...

and do you bypass srs warning lights cause i have been trying to swap for an omp steering for the longest time possible buy can't figure out how to bypass that damn blinking srs light if i disconnect my airbag...
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Oct 23 2014, 12:39 PM)
Use a black marker pen and draw it over. tongue.gif
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