I'm not hating on China bike. But motorcycle should be built though especially on the engine side. But they give low priority on that part and focus on looks.
Because of this every Chinese motorcycle brand got that bad stigma.
That why some of them willing to paid million to buy older brand that not from China. Just to mask that stigma.
If they willing to change for the better then thats good. But if they just want to profit from it. Then they will never succeed.
Agreed, and need to have a good aftersales service.
Many early Thai CKD BMW GS1200 bike before having issue with their rocker cams until need to change the cylinder head casing, but with the strong After sales service the problem did not surface until the consumer branded BMW Motorrad bikes as unreliable.
Plenty of makers from China, from cap ayam home industries until the level their factory churning Quality Tesla parts.
If it's the Cromwell 1200 made by Gaokin it's gonna be a freaking good buy. That and the Crossfire 500 are very well received in China.
Is Gaokin a good brand in terms of quality and reliability? On par or better than Royal Enfield? I know Triumph standard may be too far for them to reach...
Is Gaokin a good brand in terms of quality and reliability? On par or better than Royal Enfield? I know Triumph standard may be too far for them to reach...
Gaokin is known to be the most reliable engine maker in China, probably next to only Haojue which really is Suzuki underneath. They are generally considered a few tiers above CFMOTO in terms of reliability in the enthusiast circle.
QUOTE(lowpro @ Sep 27 2022, 10:09 AM)
I know Triumph standard may be too far for them to reach...
On the contrary, he Brixton (Gaokin GK1200) beats the Triumph 120 on all fronts (handling/power/consumption/workmanship) based on a review done by a reviewer I follow in China, the only thing going for the T120 is the nicer speedometer design, better TC, nicer sounding engine and uniform design language. If you can understand Chinese, it's a great review:
This post has been edited by JustForFun: Sep 28 2022, 11:53 PM
Gaokin is known to be the most reliable engine maker in China, probably next to only Haojue which really is Suzuki underneath. They are generally considered a few tiers above CFMOTO in terms of reliability in the enthusiast circle. On the contrary, he Brixton (Gaokin GK1200) beats the Triumph 120 on all fronts (handling/power/consumption/workmanship) based on a review done by a reviewer I follow in China, the only thing going for the T120 is the nicer speedometer design, better TC, nicer sounding engine and uniform design language. If you can understand Chinese, it's a great review:
Wow, thanks for the info. Really interesting bit of news, especially where it beats Triumph on workmanship and power. Usually older Chinese based engines have lower power to cc ratio (Something that bikes made in India are still afflicted with) and Triumph has also been the benchmark on detail and quality for some time. I can't understand Mandarin though. But, I'd like to check it out one day if it hits the showrooms soon enough. My perception earlier on Brixton bikes was based on the entry level, low cc Brixtons which are currently sold.
Wow, thanks for the info. Really interesting bit of news, especially where it beats Triumph on workmanship and power. Usually older Chinese based engines have lower power to cc ratio (Something that bikes made in India are still afflicted with) and Triumph has also been the benchmark on detail and quality for some time. I can't understand Mandarin though. But, I'd like to check it out one day if it hits the showrooms soon enough. My perception earlier on Brixton bikes was based on the entry level, low cc Brixtons which are currently sold.
The lower end Brixton I am not sure if they are made by Gaokin since I don't see them being reviewed in China. At the end of the review, the reviewer does mention that the only reason Gaokin matched/beat Triumph on some departments is only because Triump T120 isn't really that outstanding of a machine to begin with, but what it has going for it is the great, uniform retro design the smaller details/design language of the Gaokin looked more mechanical and out of the retro tone.
The lower end Brixton I am not sure if they are made by Gaokin since I don't see them being reviewed in China. At the end of the review, the reviewer does mention that the only reason Gaokin matched/beat Triumph on some departments is only because Triump T120 isn't really that outstanding of a machine to begin with, but what it has going for it is the great, uniform retro design the smaller details/design language of the Gaokin looked more mechanical and out of the retro tone.