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post Oct 23 2014, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(dilemma1234 @ Oct 23 2014, 05:21 PM)
My friend recently encouraged me sign up for match making company, thus I went for this Company (pls pm me if u wanto know the identity), and I was being persuaded very hard to sign up for their packages. She said their company have a pool of well qualified candidates for the match making and show me all the files.
I dun know why on the earth I’m such an idiot, under her persuasion, I spend (less than 2k) to sign up for this package.

After that, I feel regretted and ask whether I can refund since they have not started anything. Well, their answer is NO and they said they will give me calls and find me VERY GOOD CANDIDATES. So I received calls from them after few days introducing candidates, well they just spoke all the qualification and details over the phone and I asked whether they can send me the details, they said they GOT NO INTERNET.

And the qualifications of the candidates are not good at all, very different from what they shown me in office. When I said I’m not interested, she is like getting impatient and question me back. WELL, AS A CLIENT AND I HAVE PAID SO MUCH, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SET MY PREFERENCE! 

Feel like being cheated for this kind of LOUSY service, my advice is dun ever go there. Waste of my hard earned money, and I feel like want bang my head to wall now. Keep blaming and cursing myself everyday
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QUOTE(dilemma1234 @ Oct 23 2014, 05:21 PM)
My friend recently encouraged me sign up for match making company, thus I went for this Company (pls pm me if u wanto know the identity), and I was being persuaded very hard to sign up for their packages. She said their company have a pool of well qualified candidates for the match making and show me all the files.
I dun know why on the earth I’m such an idiot, under her persuasion, I spend (less than 2k) to sign up for this package.

After that, I feel regretted and ask whether I can refund since they have not started anything. Well, their answer is NO and they said they will give me calls and find me VERY GOOD CANDIDATES. So I received calls from them after few days introducing candidates, well they just spoke all the qualification and details over the phone and I asked whether they can send me the details, they said they GOT NO INTERNET.

And the qualifications of the candidates are not good at all, very different from what they shown me in office. When I said I’m not interested, she is like getting impatient and question me back. WELL, AS A CLIENT AND I HAVE PAID SO MUCH, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SET MY PREFERENCE! 

Feel like being cheated for this kind of LOUSY service, my advice is dun ever go there. Waste of my hard earned money, and I feel like want bang my head to wall now. Keep blaming and cursing myself everyday
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I have never believe for one second that dating agency actually works. Those that pay alot expect alot.
and the above is one of the problems with dating agency both for males and females.

When you pay alot of money to a dating agency, you tend to have over the top expectations (both for male and female) coz like you said, you have paid so much money and therefore have to right to your own set of preference.
So the guy will expect to meet some girls who are smoking hot, pretty, funny, docile, etc while the girl will expect to meet a man who is tall, dark, handsome, rich, cares for her, etc. In short, there is a mismatch in expectations.

And let's face reality. The really good girls and the really good guys won't need to pay alot of money to meet people. They are well sought after. Its those who lack the above qualities but want to get the "perfect" match that would resort to these type of agencies thinking by paying a hell lot of money they can nab a partner of their dreams. In short, dating agencies prey on people's imagination.

Then they go on to sell you the fact that they are targeting the busy high flying executives who have do not have time to meet new people. I mean seriously? You want a gf/bf who is busy most of the time? Who probably need to schedule dates like 3 months in advance? I sure as hell don't want someone who is too busy. They should stay single. Its best for them and everyone else (except for the dating agency).

Then these dating agencies also known to stroke your egos by telling you how you are the type of guy/girl the opposite sex is looking for, etc. hard truth:If you have to resort to dating agency to find dates, you probably aren't what they said you are. Seriously, if you don't have the guts or are too busy to meet new people, then you're probably better off single. Really. No point signing up

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QUOTE(Gazprom200 @ Oct 26 2014, 11:05 PM)
I have never believe for one second that dating agency actually works. Those that pay alot expect alot.
and the above is one of the problems with dating agency both for males and females.

When you pay alot of money to a dating agency, you tend to have over the top expectations (both for male and female) coz like you said, you have paid so much money and therefore have to right to your own set of preference.
So the guy will expect to meet some girls who are smoking hot, pretty, funny, docile, etc while the girl will expect to meet a man who is tall, dark, handsome, rich, cares for her, etc. In short, there is a mismatch in expectations.

And let's face reality. The really good girls and the really good guys won't need to pay alot of money to meet people. They are well sought after. Its those who lack the above qualities but want to get the "perfect" match that would resort to these type of agencies thinking by paying a hell lot of money they can nab a partner of their dreams. In short, dating agencies prey on people's imagination.

Then they go on to sell you the fact that they are targeting the busy high flying executives who have do not have time to meet new people. I mean seriously? You want a gf/bf who is busy most of the time? Who probably need to schedule dates like 3 months in advance? I sure as hell don't want someone who is too busy. They should stay single. Its best for them and everyone else (except for the dating agency).

Then these dating agencies also known to stroke your egos by telling you how you are the type of guy/girl the opposite sex is looking for, etc. hard truth:If you have to resort to dating agency to find dates, you probably aren't what they said you are. Seriously, if you don't have the guts or are too busy to meet new people, then you're probably better off single. Really. No point signing up
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QUOTE(Gazprom200 @ Oct 26 2014, 11:05 PM)
I have never believe for one second that dating agency actually works. Those that pay alot expect alot.
and the above is one of the problems with dating agency both for males and females.

When you pay alot of money to a dating agency, you tend to have over the top expectations (both for male and female) coz like you said, you have paid so much money and therefore have to right to your own set of preference.
So the guy will expect to meet some girls who are smoking hot, pretty, funny, docile, etc while the girl will expect to meet a man who is tall, dark, handsome, rich, cares for her, etc. In short, there is a mismatch in expectations.

And let's face reality. The really good girls and the really good guys won't need to pay alot of money to meet people. They are well sought after. Its those who lack the above qualities but want to get the "perfect" match that would resort to these type of agencies thinking by paying a hell lot of money they can nab a partner of their dreams. In short, dating agencies prey on people's imagination.

Then they go on to sell you the fact that they are targeting the busy high flying executives who have do not have time to meet new people. I mean seriously? You want a gf/bf who is busy most of the time? Who probably need to schedule dates like 3 months in advance? I sure as hell don't want someone who is too busy. They should stay single. Its best for them and everyone else (except for the dating agency).

Then these dating agencies also known to stroke your egos by telling you how you are the type of guy/girl the opposite sex is looking for, etc. hard truth:If you have to resort to dating agency to find dates, you probably aren't what they said you are. Seriously, if you don't have the guts or are too busy to meet new people, then you're probably better off single. Really. No point signing up
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Yes, I know this concept and I agreed with you too, for these years I met guys and chasers but I didn’t meet the one that clicks. It is under my fren encouragement that I should get help from the agency. Actually I was visiting this agency merely to get some insights on dating agency and see if there is any normal table for six or table for eight events. I oso dunno why on the earth I would trapped in their persuasion and gt the membership signup. It’s a real impulsive decision and I regret hell for that. I really soooo regret….

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QUOTE(ribbondaily @ Oct 23 2014, 04:43 PM)
OK. this is my experience. Lunch Actually is very expensive and you really wait for months and months before they call. None of my six dates --  i paid about RM1800 --  worked out. On the plus side, they are very professional. The women they introduced me to are also all working career women. Mostly English educated. On the downside, it is an expensive way to get to know women.

another agency called CSC is better. They charged me also about rm2k but I got close to 20 introductions. at least one a week. A few have become friends. The women are more Chinese educated.
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This, my dear sir, is the kind of objective review I'm looking for. Well, in term of price, one would have to ask, for the same price, can one get a more effective service?

I'm glad the other service worked out for you.
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QUOTE(Gazprom200 @ Oct 26 2014, 11:05 PM)
I have never believe for one second that dating agency actually works. Those that pay alot expect alot.
and the above is one of the problems with dating agency both for males and females.

When you pay alot of money to a dating agency, you tend to have over the top expectations (both for male and female) coz like you said, you have paid so much money and therefore have to right to your own set of preference.
So the guy will expect to meet some girls who are smoking hot, pretty, funny, docile, etc while the girl will expect to meet a man who is tall, dark, handsome, rich, cares for her, etc. In short, there is a mismatch in expectations.

And let's face reality. The really good girls and the really good guys won't need to pay alot of money to meet people. They are well sought after. Its those who lack the above qualities but want to get the "perfect" match that would resort to these type of agencies thinking by paying a hell lot of money they can nab a partner of their dreams. In short, dating agencies prey on people's imagination.

Then they go on to sell you the fact that they are targeting the busy high flying executives who have do not have time to meet new people. I mean seriously? You want a gf/bf who is busy most of the time? Who probably need to schedule dates like 3 months in advance? I sure as hell don't want someone who is too busy. They should stay single. Its best for them and everyone else (except for the dating agency).

Then these dating agencies also known to stroke your egos by telling you how you are the type of guy/girl the opposite sex is looking for, etc. hard truth:If you have to resort to dating agency to find dates, you probably aren't what they said you are. Seriously, if you don't have the guts or are too busy to meet new people, then you're probably better off single. Really. No point signing up
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@gazprom: I'm not sure what kind of terrible experience you had with dating agency, but you need to be a bit more specific here. Saying that they prey on ppl imagination, so did the agency promise anyone that their clientele list include Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr, Jessica Alba kind people? Even Lunch Actually promise no such thing in the form of physical or emotional perfection.

And saying cynical things like, if you dont have the guts to meet ppl, and therefore you deserve to be single? I would like to know what sort of experience did you go through to come up with that statement.
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QUOTE(Doggystyle @ Oct 30 2014, 04:23 PM)
@gazprom: I'm not sure what kind of terrible experience you had with dating agency, but you need to be a bit more specific here. Saying that they prey on ppl imagination, so did the agency promise anyone that their clientele list include Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr, Jessica Alba kind people? Even Lunch Actually promise no such thing in the form of physical or emotional perfection.

And saying cynical things like, if you dont have the guts to meet ppl, and therefore you deserve to be single? I would like to know what sort of experience did you go through to come up with that statement.
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You sound like you're paid to promote Lunch Actually laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dilemma1234 @ Oct 30 2014, 03:42 PM)
Yes, I know this concept and I agreed with you too, for these years I met guys and chasers but I didn’t meet the one that clicks. It is under my fren encouragement that I should get help from the agency. Actually I was visiting this agency merely to get some insights on dating agency and see if there is any normal table for six or table for eight events. I oso dunno why on the earth I would trapped in their persuasion and gt the membership signup. It’s a real impulsive decision and I regret hell for that. I really soooo regret….
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Ma'am, take your time and explain, if its not too personal, what sort of terrible experience did you have with this agency of yours? Depending on your personality type, it could give some relieve writing it out. I'm not going to judge you.

Let these question give you some idea on what to explain...

Did they conduct the typical 16 personality test?
Did they ask the most/least question that most job interview include?

Does the agency match you according to above, or some similar form to it? Or do they just interview you directly?
Did they show you photo and allow you to decide if you're going for it or not?


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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Oct 30 2014, 04:42 PM)
You sound like you're paid to promote Lunch Actually laugh.gif
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@s2pe: Yeah, I should sign up for their online spokeperson. Anyway, I had a thread talking about 'putting things in proper context', probably buried or closed by admin, I dunno.

I just enjoy persuading ppl to see things the other way.

@General Fahmy: Well, thanks for the idea. I wouldnt go out of my way to SG to look for dates, but if I happen to be there working, then its a possibility.
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QUOTE(Doggystyle @ Oct 30 2014, 04:50 PM)
@s2pe: Yeah, I should sign up for their online spokeperson. Anyway, I had a thread talking about 'putting things in proper context', probably buried or closed by admin, I dunno.

I just enjoy persuading ppl to see things the other way.

@General Fahmy: Well, thanks for the idea. I wouldnt go out of my way to SG to look for dates, but if I happen to be there working, then its a possibility.
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I believe everyone has a right to an acceptable level of expectation for what they're paying for, no? And a lot of people feel that it's not worth to pay thousands just to have half a dozen "dates".
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Oct 30 2014, 04:55 PM)
I believe everyone has a right to an acceptable level of expectation for what they're paying for, no? And a lot of people feel that it's not worth to pay thousands just to have half a dozen "dates".
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That's why I try to get people to be specific about what's their expectation and stuff. If your criteria is only Phd level and earning more than >20k. And you get 6 dates a year for the low low price of 3k? I would say damn worth it. But someone might think that even 3k is too much for that.

But as long as I manage to get people to explain this sort of fact, then its ok. You can decide whether its expensive or not.




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QUOTE(Doggystyle @ Oct 30 2014, 05:09 PM)
That's why I try to get people to be specific about what's their expectation and stuff. If your criteria is only Phd level and earning more than >20k. And you get 6 dates a year for the low low price of 3k? I would say damn worth it. But someone might think that even 3k is too much for that.

But as long as I manage to get people to explain this sort of fact, then its ok. You can decide whether its expensive or not.
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To YOU it might be worth that. To others it is not, and just because you think it's worth it, does not make the opinions of others invalid.

For example, if I can get dates with women at very minimal expense, I would find paying RM3k to get half a dozen dates to be overpriced.
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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Oct 21 2014, 09:18 PM)
That's what I was afraid of. You'll never know, its too good to be true, what if they hire models to take you out? And dump you after awhile? Hehe
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Awesome fantastic business strategy to squeeze every penny out of a despo on top of paying that blardy date and don't even know if he is gonna like her face even? HELL NO~

For RM3K, I rather walk up to random woman that I find myself attracted to, tell her that i'm doing a social science study looking for female participants to interview on dining habits for RM50 bucks. She gets to pick a restaurant with budget of RM100. With RM150 bucks each, I get 20 dates for RM3K. At least, I know I like the face, tits and booty. thumbup.gif

C'mon...I'm sure this will work even if I lost my hair, my teeth and probably diagnosed with erectile dysfunction. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Oct 30 2014, 05:16 PM)
To YOU it might be worth that. To others it is not, and just because you think it's worth it, does not make the opinions of others invalid.

For example, if I can get dates with women at very minimal expense, I would find paying RM3k to get half a dozen dates to be overpriced.
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Dude, we're of the same opinion and yet you misunderstood me.
The whole topic wasn't about the price or how expensive is things. Its about the experience you get (from hiring an agency), and how objectively you describe it. Whether its worth it or not its up to the reader.

@fahmy: Again, I would like to stress that, not a single post by me mentioned anything about expectations of looks.


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QUOTE(Doggystyle @ Oct 30 2014, 04:23 PM)
@gazprom: I'm not sure what kind of terrible experience you had with dating agency, but you need to be a bit more specific here. Saying that they prey on ppl imagination, so did the agency promise anyone that their clientele list include Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr, Jessica Alba kind people? Even Lunch Actually promise no such thing in the form of physical or emotional perfection.

And saying cynical things like, if you dont have the guts to meet ppl, and therefore you deserve to be single? I would like to know what sort of experience did you go through to come up with that statement.
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It is actually logic.
Yes, many agencies or so called agencies prey on people's imagination.
Because you paid alot for something (i.e. exchange alot of money for the purpose of meeting someone , hopefully a partner in life) you expect nothing less.
Its a simple rationale. For example If I pay RM 300k for a mercedes benz for example, do you think I will expect anything less than the luxury, comfort and safety of typical of a Mercedes Benz? Would you be happy if you paid RM300k for a mercedes benz that looks, feel and rides like a Proton? Absolutely not, right? The same applies to dating agency.

What do dating agency sell? Ans: The promise of an eventful date. Now by paying so much money, do you think you will go in with zero expectation of your date i.e.(in the above context) do not mind paying RM 300k for a proton? Absolutely not, right? Think about it. As a fairly attractive girl (i assume) to be forking out RM 3k for dates, do you think they will settle for some nerdy, socially awkward guy who they can easily hook up with outside the dating agency? Absolutely not.

As for the cynical saying, it is an observation. If one do not even dare or are too shy (esp guys or even girls these days - gender bias is no longer in play. Its called equal rights) to approach someone and talk to them, what chances do you think they have even if they have a prefect person in front of them? Not going to work, right?

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Oct 30 2014, 10:24 PM)
It also squeeze out the girls who can't afford to pay RM3k. So the person hiring these services are only getting dates of women who are of higher status. They lose a really big market segment. What about the girls that work in the unisex saloons? What about the girls who work at the shopping complex as sales person? What about girls who work as promoters at events? What about those girls working at the handphone shops? Frankly speaking, the other day I was at Digital Mall, I saw quite a number of nice looking young Chinese girls working as cashiers and promoters. We know as well as anybody these girls can't afford to pay 3k for 6 dates.
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Precisely. And to add on, do you think women who pay RM3k for dates are going to settle for some nerdy, socially awkward guy that are a dime a dozen in their office? Absolutely not. Right. Why waste so much money just to have dates with men who they can get anytime (assuming they are attractive enough). And if they are not attractive enough, what makes you think the guy paying RM3k will want to settle for her, right? It works both ways. Expectation kills the dating game. Best is just to keep it simple, no expectation, no money (maybe just pay for the meal that's it). That is my opinion

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QUOTE(Doggystyle @ Oct 30 2014, 04:45 PM)
Ma'am, take your time and explain, if its not too personal, what sort of terrible experience did you have with this agency of yours? Depending on your personality type, it could give some relieve writing it out. I'm not going to judge you.

Let these question give you some idea on what to explain...

Did they conduct the typical 16 personality test?
Did they ask the most/least question that most job interview include?

Does the agency match you according to above, or some similar form to it? Or do they just interview you directly?
Did they show you photo and allow you to decide if you're going for it or not?
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This post has been edited by dilemma1234: Nov 4 2014, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Oct 30 2014, 10:24 PM)
It also squeeze out the girls who can't afford to pay RM3k. So the person hiring these services are only getting dates of women who are of higher status. They lose a really big market segment. What about the girls that work in the unisex saloons? What about the girls who work at the shopping complex as sales person? What about girls who work as promoters at events? What about those girls working at the handphone shops? Frankly speaking, the other day I was at Digital Mall, I saw quite a number of nice looking young Chinese girls working as cashiers and promoters. We know as well as anybody these girls can't afford to pay 3k for 6 dates.
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Well, if most of the client writes "pleasant personality" ONLY in their preference, I'm sure they will also hire women from, unisex saloon, sales person, event promoter, or girls working at handphone shop. The thing is, are you gonna just write "pleasant personality" as only preference for RM3K right?

Does women need to pay for such services too? hmm.gif
I thought all they need to do is just leave their contact. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(dilemma1234 @ Oct 31 2014, 11:36 AM)
It was a terrible experience, the first date she intro me is a guy who claimed to be single and later on I found out he is actually in relationship. This guy claimed that this agency has not contact him for almost a year. That’s y I think their service is very bad and their database is very limited, unlike what they telling me that they have very wide database.

I actually blamed the agency for not doing proper screening and for giving me outdated information. This agent was fed up and said she was heartbreaking for my bad accuse. So in the end I’m the victim now, paying so much and eventually got the blame from the agent. I think she will not entertain me much for now on.

I tried really really hard to get refund, even not the full amount, as I lose confidence on them dy. But, their answer is NO. This is the silliest decision I made in my life and until today I still feel terribly bad. Just to share my experience here, no judging and pouring cold water pls, I learned a hard lesson
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Thanks, I appreciate your courage.

I don't know the exact system if this agency you applied to. Is someone that was never active for 1 year still considered a member (and are they paying anything during this duration?). Of course the agency should check their member from time to time, like are you still single or not. But if a person lies, not much they can do about it either, at most cancel their membership. They are a dating agency, not private investigation. Thats a risk consumer like us need to take into.

Regarding refund, this is Malaysia, so its shitty no hope here, I wouldnt suggest anyone to take them to court unless you have the time and energy for that.

I'm going to assume that the agency has other consultant beside the one youre dealing with. Would you try another shot, if your membership still valid ?

Well, I won't ask you about your economic situation, it could have caused you a lot of damages when you needed the cash. But I would try to frame it another way, like say you signed up for a gym and just went for a few session before you got bored (but you need to pay for a year).





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